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Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Tue February 11, 2020 11:41 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
Bunch of chit in that thread

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Tue February 11, 2020 11:49 pm
by bart
Jorge how in the hell did you remember that from 10 years ago?

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Tue February 11, 2020 11:50 pm
by Jorge
I... don't know

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Tue February 11, 2020 11:51 pm
by Orpheus
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:I really liked the setting and lighting of Parasite as well. The house was a character in the movie, and it really helped tell the story as well.
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You are mentally ill.
Describing a setting as a character is one of my hugest pet peeves in movie discussion. It’s such a completely nonsense thing to say. Makes zero sense. I don’t think it means what you are trying to say (because it means nothing and is impossible).
If that's how they are experiencing it, why do you give a shit? Different people have different mental processes when taking in art. Some people see pictures when reading, some people don't. Synesthesia is a real thing for some. So it stands to reason that some people might experience a film setting as something that actually exerts an influence on the narrative. The science on these ideas is still very much in progress, so it seems basically incorrect to say its impossible. For you? Sure. For others? Maybe not.

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Wed February 12, 2020 12:08 am
by bune
bart wrote:Jorge how in the hell did you remember that from 10 years ago?
current theory is a massive excel chart with cross references and html linking.

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Wed February 12, 2020 12:11 am
by washing machine
Wow. My losing team was stacked.

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Wed February 12, 2020 12:32 am
by LoathedVermin72
Orpheus wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:I really liked the setting and lighting of Parasite as well. The house was a character in the movie, and it really helped tell the story as well.
UUGGFFHHHHJJFJFJXJXKFJFJJCJFJFJDJDJCJCJJC
You are mentally ill.
Describing a setting as a character is one of my hugest pet peeves in movie discussion. It’s such a completely nonsense thing to say. Makes zero sense. I don’t think it means what you are trying to say (because it means nothing and is impossible).
If that's how they are experiencing it, why do you give a shit? Different people have different mental processes when taking in art. Some people see pictures when reading, some people don't. Synesthesia is a real thing for some. So it stands to reason that some people might experience a film setting as something that actually exerts an influence on the narrative. The science on these ideas is still very much in progress, so it seems basically incorrect to say its impossible. For you? Sure. For others? Maybe not.
nate shut the fuck up

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Wed February 12, 2020 12:41 am
by Kaius
haha he fucking mauled you son

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Wed February 12, 2020 12:47 am
by LoathedVermin72
No he fucking didn't. Synesthesia has absolutely nothing to do with something being a setting or a character. They are literally two different things. Characters aren't the only thing that can "exert influence" on a narrative - every fucking part of filmmaking "exerts influence" on the narrative: visuals, sound, music, editing, setting, characters, dialog, and on and on. That doesn't mean those things are all just characters - what the fuck kind of stupid take is that? It's complete nonsense. A setting looming large and influencing other parts of a movie...that's just a setting being well-used and important to the film. That doesn't make it a fucking character. What kind of stupid fucking bullshit are we talking about here?!

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Wed February 12, 2020 12:50 am
by Orpheus
I'll just be over here writing fan-fiction about my favorite characters, all of whom are houses.

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Wed February 12, 2020 12:50 am
by tragabigzanda
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Wed February 12, 2020 12:52 am
by E.H. Ruddock
Kouse just got destroyed.

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Wed February 12, 2020 12:52 am
by LoathedVermin72
tragabigzanda wrote:Lv is being a total dickhead but also he is right
I’m sorry this topic gets me riled up (also my hostility is somewhat in jest)

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Wed February 12, 2020 12:54 am
by bart
Because I’m housin’

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Wed February 12, 2020 12:57 am
by Orpheus
I don't really care either way, I just have my own pet peeve about people saying others' experience of art is impossible. How the fuck do you know? If they felt it was foreboding/unique/impressive enough to become a sort of character, why not just let them think that? It's literally their own personal experience inside their own head. Why police it?

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Wed February 12, 2020 12:59 am
by Kaius
E.H. Ruddock wrote:Kouse just got destroyed.
I don’t think I can recover from that verbal lashing. I must leave RM in shame.

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Wed February 12, 2020 1:02 am
by LoathedVermin72
Orpheus wrote:I don't really care either way, I just have my own pet peeve about people saying others' experience of art is impossible. How the fuck do you know? If they felt it was foreboding/unique/impressive enough to become a sort of character, why not just let them think that? It's literally their own personal experience inside their own head. Why police it?
Saying a setting is a character isn’t a matter of personal experience, it’s just an objectively incorrect assertion. As someone who is passionate about film analysis and criticism, I think defining and understanding language is important.

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Wed February 12, 2020 1:03 am
by Orpheus
Also: the Poe story "The Fall of the House of Usher" serves as a perfect example of this phenomenon, and this was almost undoubtedly intentional on the part of the author. But I'm sure this well thought-out, completely relevant example will be completely ignored.

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Wed February 12, 2020 1:05 am
by Orpheus
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
Orpheus wrote:I don't really care either way, I just have my own pet peeve about people saying others' experience of art is impossible. How the fuck do you know? If they felt it was foreboding/unique/impressive enough to become a sort of character, why not just let them think that? It's literally their own personal experience inside their own head. Why police it?
Saying a setting is a character isn’t a matter of personal experience, it’s just an objectively incorrect assertion. As someone who is passionate about film analysis and criticism, I think defining and understanding language is important.
How do you rectify this with what I posted above? Years of analysis have asserted that the house in question is most definitely represented as a character in the story, one that fissures and "dies" in the end. This can't be represented in film? I'd argue that it has, many, many times.

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Wed February 12, 2020 1:07 am
by Orpheus
What is a haunted house driving people to exit its presence or die but a character with it's own viewpoint. This trope is extremely common. Some of these houses even talk! This is a very common trope, yet this idea is impossible?