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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Thu September 26, 2013 10:09 am
by WtOB?
harmless wrote:
Blenheim Augustine wrote:Wish the Rolling Stone had asked him what he thought of the One Direction concert he went to and why he lets his kids listen to aural fructose.
True story: Backspacer is almost entirely aural fructose.
that's where one direction got the idea.

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Thu September 26, 2013 10:09 am
by WtOB?
harmless wrote:
WtOB? wrote:
harmless wrote:
Vindicator wrote:
wilkins wrote:Hey, did this nasty bitch leak yet? BITCH! :luv:

Nothing yet, we are getting the EPK later today, which should be cool. We may hear a few things we haven't yet.
Not according to the Q&A review, it looks like it'll just be four of the songs we've heard.
q&a review?
One of the listening party reviews includes a description of the EPK they watched during the BoB Q&A. But it's just been pointed out to me that they just saw a clip of something longer, so we might get new clips I'm not sure.
o, i c.

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Thu September 26, 2013 10:10 am
by harmless
WtOB? wrote:
harmless wrote:
Blenheim Augustine wrote:Wish the Rolling Stone had asked him what he thought of the One Direction concert he went to and why he lets his kids listen to aural fructose.
True story: Backspacer is almost entirely aural fructose.
that's where one direction got the idea.
:thumbsup:

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Thu September 26, 2013 10:16 am
by ABNorman
harmless wrote:
WtOB? wrote:
harmless wrote:
Blenheim Augustine wrote:Wish the Rolling Stone had asked him what he thought of the One Direction concert he went to and why he lets his kids listen to aural fructose.
True story: Backspacer is almost entirely aural fructose.
that's where one direction got the idea.
:thumbsup:
Good to know the boys are still inspiring young musicians.

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Thu September 26, 2013 10:21 am
by harmless
Yeah I don't have much of a problem with One Direction. It's hard to argue that PJ are cooler than them now.

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Thu September 26, 2013 10:43 am
by stupidmop
Eddie wrote: Sentimentality. For years, it was playing word games and expressing those emotions, but doing it in such a way that was cryptic and where Mark Arm from Mudhoney would still have some modicum of respect for me. But nowadays, it's more like sitting down and writing a song, and whatever comes out, comes out.
So mark arm did kick him in the crotch after hearing sirens.

I wish ed would go back to making his songs cryptic or 'difficult' sometimes. I'm beginning to see that what he called making songs difficult or cryptic or less pop back in the day, was just making songs good to me :lol:

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Thu September 26, 2013 10:45 am
by WtOB?
i'm sure all of mark's respect was lost after the fixer and all related promo.

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Thu September 26, 2013 10:50 am
by Release_Me
That line from Ed in the interview is basically what I felt about the middle period albums. Making songs intentionally difficult. It only worked occasionally and the payoff wasn't what it should have been. I'm glad they're not doing it anymore. What comes out is what comes out.

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Thu September 26, 2013 10:50 am
by WtOB?
Release_Me wrote:That line from Ed in the interview is basically what I felt about the middle period albums. Making songs intentionally difficult. It only worked occasionally and the payoff wasn't what it should have been. I'm glad they're not doing it anymore. What comes out is what comes out.
but the middle records were the best ones.. :(

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Thu September 26, 2013 10:54 am
by stupidmop
I hope he asks ed if he wants to 'put a little 'citin on it' all the time. 'Do you ed? DO YOU?'

Also eds got a metaphor for everything damn. Hot air balloons, fructose...

Honestly it sounds to me trying to make the songs difficult is what made them good or interesting. Be vague and weird ed c'Mon.

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Thu September 26, 2013 10:54 am
by stip
that was an interesting interview


Given all the time between records, and all the band members’ side projects, is Pearl Jam itself now a side project for you guys?

I could see, perhaps, where that assumption is made. But we’re more of a group than ever, and the space in between is healthy. It’s a big part of everybody’s life, to be playing music, at all times. And at the same time, it’s important to us to be part of our families, to not be absent fathers.
Also, actually putting out the record is a little bit of a shock to the system. That’s what we remember as being traumatic. Probably, when you take longer between records, there’s more importance placed on the records. Maybe the next thing you do is put out another one in the next year – just put it out, and not have a buildup.



With the solo ukulele record you put out in 2011, and Pearl Jam's hit "Just Breathe," it seems like you've opened the door for a bit of, not softness, but...

Sentimentality. For years, it was playing word games and expressing those emotions, but doing it in such a way that was cryptic and where Mark Arm from Mudhoney would still have some modicum of respect for me. But nowadays, it's more like sitting down and writing a song, and whatever comes out, comes out.

The new album also has the power ballad "Sirens," which sounds big - dare I say "commercial"?

You've already said it! You want to say something else? You want me to double-dare you? [Laughs] You know, a lot of these songs were written in the middle of the night, and you're the only one awake, it seems, for miles. There’s no one criticizing what you’re writing.


As unpleasant as it often was for Pearl Jam back in the Nineties, shouldn't more good young rock bands be shooting for the pop charts?

Bono talked a lot about, you know, “We can't let rock & roll become a niche.” I thought, “Well, that's kind of crazy. I have more faith in it than that.” But I can definitely see his point. When there’s a pop song that seems a little bit better than others, it's usually one that has some real guitar, real drums in it. I still feel like the best stuff has natural elements.

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Thu September 26, 2013 10:55 am
by stip
stupidmop wrote:I hope he asks ed if he wants to 'put a little 'citin on it' all the time. 'Do you ed? DO YOU?'

Also eds got a metaphor for everything damn. Hot air balloons, fructose...

Honestly it sounds to me trying to make the songs difficult is what made them good or interesting. Be vague and weird ed c'Mon.
INCORRECT!

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Thu September 26, 2013 10:57 am
by Release_Me
Ok, if you say so :) I'm just not a fan of anything from that era. I appreciate what they tried, but I don't like it. The more direct they are in their songs, the more I feel like I can connect, in general. Also, being cryptic for the sake of it is different than just making a song which has many layers and takes multiple listens to sink in. I don't mind the latter. But I like my Pearl Jam when they wear their hearts on their sleeves.

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Thu September 26, 2013 10:58 am
by stip
Release_Me wrote:Ok, if you say so :) I'm just not a fan of anything from that era. I appreciate what they tried, but I don't like it. The more direct they are in their songs, the more I feel like I can connect, in general. Also, being cryptic for the sake of it is different than just making a song which has many layers and takes multiple listens to sink in. I don't mind the latter. But I like my Pearl Jam when they wear their hearts on their sleeves.
i am a fan of a lot of it. Just not as much of a fan of it.

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Thu September 26, 2013 10:58 am
by Mine
Yeah that interview if full of proof they write things with a clear purpose/direction in mind like we like to debate about.
:arrow:

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Thu September 26, 2013 10:59 am
by stip
the next few weeks are incredibly busy for me. It would be great if L-bolt leaked this weekend.

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Thu September 26, 2013 11:00 am
by Release_Me
Well, it's the same with me if you put it that way. Of course, I still prefer anything Pearl Jam over other music. But I don't feel the need to revisit those albums nearly enough to say I am truly a fan of them. Individual songs, yes.

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Thu September 26, 2013 11:05 am
by Heathen
stip wrote:The new album also has the power ballad "Sirens," which sounds big - dare I say "commercial"?

You've already said it! You want to say something else? You want me to double-dare you? [Laughs] You know, a lot of these songs were written in the middle of the night, and you're the only one awake, it seems, for miles. There’s no one criticizing what you’re writing.
He badly needs a RM account.

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Thu September 26, 2013 11:06 am
by harmless
Release_Me wrote:That line from Ed in the interview is basically what I felt about the middle period albums. Making songs intentionally difficult. It only worked occasionally and the payoff wasn't what it should have been. I'm glad they're not doing it anymore. What comes out is what comes out.
The problem with this idea that "What comes out is what comes out" is that it kind of assumes that your fans will accept any little creative direction you want to go down. To be fair, many of PJ's fans will and they know that, which is why the quality control hasn't been entirely up to snuff lately.

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Thu September 26, 2013 11:08 am
by harmless
stupidmop wrote:I hope he asks ed if he wants to 'put a little 'citin on it' all the time. 'Do you ed? DO YOU?'

Also eds got a metaphor for everything damn. Hot air balloons, fructose...

Honestly it sounds to me trying to make the songs difficult is what made them good or interesting. Be vague and weird ed c'Mon.
Yup.