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McParadigm wrote:

Got Some wrote:Where were you when you first listened to Gigaton ??

Mine was all messed up due to downloading the album(leak) with 15 minutes to go before leaving for work and that iTunes was set to shuffle.

Two weeks into quarantine, and halfway through a month of consecutive days spent mostly alone, in a windowless basement storage area, preparing Seattle doctor volunteers to do shifts in the Emergency Department.

Incidentally, this is the title of the B-Side for the Retrograde single.

I do like to look back through their back catalogue and find songs with roadmaps leading to other songs on new albums. With Gigaton, here's where I come down on:

Who Ever Said - Sad/Breakerfall/God's Dice
Superblood Wolfmoon - Grievance/Black Red Yellow
DOTC - Who You Are (only in an overall, odd sense of an unexpected single)
Quick Escape - Half Full/No Way
Alright - Oceans/Pendulum/Can't Keep
Seven O'clock - Inside Job/It's Okay (2000 tour)
Never Destination - Supersonic/Leatherman
Take the Long Way - Ghost/Get Right
Buckle Up - Parachutes/All Those Yesterdays
Comes Then Goes - Hard Sun
Retrograde - Inside Job/Sleight of Hand/Sirens
River Cross - Long Road/Indifference

Not saying the Gigaton songs are better, just that you can pick up the influences or common musical threads from past albums in these new tracks.

hailroad wrote:I do like to look back through their back catalogue and find songs with roadmaps leading to other songs on new albums. With Gigaton, here's where I come down on:

Who Ever Said - Sad/Breakerfall/God's Dice
Superblood Wolfmoon - Grievance/Black Red Yellow
DOTC - Who You Are (only in an overall, odd sense of an unexpected single)
Quick Escape - Half Full/No Way
Alright - Oceans/Pendulum/Can't Keep
Seven O'clock - Inside Job/It's Okay (2000 tour)
Never Destination - Supersonic/Leatherman
Take the Long Way - Ghost/Get Right
Buckle Up - Parachutes/All Those Yesterdays
Comes Then Goes - Hard Sun
Retrograde - Inside Job/Sleight of Hand/Sirens
River Cross - Long Road/Indifference

Not saying the Gigaton songs are better, just that you can pick up the influences or common musical threads from past albums in these new tracks.

I would agree with most of these comparisons. I can definitely see where they all fit.

I'm not sure I see Sleight of Hand and Retrograde. Where do you see the connection?

I see more of Hard Sun in Retrograde, actually

The first thing I thought of when I heard the opening lick is River of Deceit.

hailroad wrote:
Who Ever Said - Sad/Breakerfall/God's Dice

Very much this

stip wrote:I'm not sure I see Sleight of Hand and Retrograde. Where do you see the connection?

Only in the dirge-like outro. Very reminiscent of SoH for me in the wall of sound it contains.

hailroad wrote:I do like to look back through their back catalogue and find songs with roadmaps leading to other songs on new albums. With Gigaton, here's where I come down on:

Who Ever Said - Sad/Breakerfall/God's Dice
Superblood Wolfmoon - Grievance/Black Red Yellow
DOTC - Who You Are (only in an overall, odd sense of an unexpected single)
Quick Escape - Half Full/No Way
Alright - Oceans/Pendulum/Can't Keep
Seven O'clock - Inside Job/It's Okay (2000 tour)
Never Destination - Supersonic/Leatherman
Take the Long Way - Ghost/Get Right
Buckle Up - Parachutes/All Those Yesterdays
Comes Then Goes - Hard Sun
Retrograde - Inside Job/Sleight of Hand/Sirens
River Cross - Long Road/Indifference



Not saying the Gigaton songs are better, just that you can pick up the influences or common musical threads from past albums in these new tracks.

Love this post. One thing I really love about the band getting into this stage of their career is seeing how the albums sort of relate and converse with each other. I think every album is usually in some way a reaction to the album that immediately precedes it, so Lightning Bolt fits into the equation for Gigaton, but I also feel that Yield and Binaural act as precursors or predictors of Gigaton as well. I think the breadth of Yield and how the band is stretching themselves but still very comfortable being PJ inform Gigaton, but I also think the atypical song structures and experimentation of Binaural also inform it as well. I'll take the bait and see where I land:

Who Ever Said - Breakerfall, Far Behind
Superblood Wolfmoon - Gods Dice, Grievance (song structure)
Dance of Clairvoyants - You Are, Infallible, Who You Are/Do the Evolution (just for being out there PJ experiments that have no precedent and that just work)
Quick Escape - Deep, Brother
Alright - Lowlight, Otherside, In My Tree (for lyrics)
Seven O'Clock - Army Reserve, Sleight of Hand
Never Destination - MFC, Green Disease
Take the Long Way - Get Right, Big Wave
Buckle Up - Parachutes, All those Yesterdays
Comes Then Goes - Immortality, Guaranteed
Retrograde - Sirens, In Hiding
River Cross - Parting Ways, Light Years

I guess Binaural didn't show up as much as I thought while Riot Act did. But I think the template for them tackling non-traditional song structures is directly informed by Binaural.

Tuolumne wrote:

hailroad wrote:I do like to look back through their back catalogue and find songs with roadmaps leading to other songs on new albums. With Gigaton, here's where I come down on:

Who Ever Said - Sad/Breakerfall/God's Dice
Superblood Wolfmoon - Grievance/Black Red Yellow
DOTC - Who You Are (only in an overall, odd sense of an unexpected single)
Quick Escape - Half Full/No Way
Alright - Oceans/Pendulum/Can't Keep
Seven O'clock - Inside Job/It's Okay (2000 tour)
Never Destination - Supersonic/Leatherman
Take the Long Way - Ghost/Get Right
Buckle Up - Parachutes/All Those Yesterdays
Comes Then Goes - Hard Sun
Retrograde - Inside Job/Sleight of Hand/Sirens
River Cross - Long Road/Indifference



Not saying the Gigaton songs are better, just that you can pick up the influences or common musical threads from past albums in these new tracks.

Love this post. One thing I really love about the band getting into this stage of their career is seeing how the albums sort of relate and converse with each other. I think every album is usually in some way a reaction to the album that immediately precedes it, so Lightning Bolt fits into the equation for Gigaton, but I also feel that Yield and Binaural act as precursors or predictors of Gigaton as well. I think the breadth of Yield and how the band is stretching themselves but still very comfortable being PJ inform Gigaton, but I also think the atypical song structures and experimentation of Binaural also inform it as well. I'll take the bait and see where I land:

Who Ever Said - Breakerfall, Far Behind
Superblood Wolfmoon - Gods Dice, Grievance (song structure)
Dance of Clairvoyants - You Are, Infallible, Who You Are/Do the Evolution (just for being out there PJ experiments that have no precedent and that just work)
Quick Escape - Deep, Brother
Alright - Lowlight, Otherside, In My Tree (for lyrics)
Seven O'Clock - Army Reserve, Sleight of Hand
Never Destination - MFC, Green Disease
Take the Long Way - Get Right, Big Wave
Buckle Up - Parachutes, All those Yesterdays
Comes Then Goes - Immortality, Guaranteed
Retrograde - Sirens, Oceans, In Hiding
River Cross - Parting Ways, Light Years

I guess Binaural didn't show up as much as I thought while Riot Act did. But I think the template for them tackling non-traditional song structures is directly informed by Binaural. I would love an album that can similarly hold a thematic conversation with Vitalogy, I think they have that in them.

Tuolumne wrote:

Tuolumne wrote:

hailroad wrote:I do like to look back through their back catalogue and find songs with roadmaps leading to other songs on new albums. With Gigaton, here's where I come down on:

Who Ever Said - Sad/Breakerfall/God's Dice
Superblood Wolfmoon - Grievance/Black Red Yellow
DOTC - Who You Are (only in an overall, odd sense of an unexpected single)
Quick Escape - Half Full/No Way
Alright - Oceans/Pendulum/Can't Keep
Seven O'clock - Inside Job/It's Okay (2000 tour)
Never Destination - Supersonic/Leatherman
Take the Long Way - Ghost/Get Right
Buckle Up - Parachutes/All Those Yesterdays
Comes Then Goes - Hard Sun
Retrograde - Inside Job/Sleight of Hand/Sirens
River Cross - Long Road/Indifference



Not saying the Gigaton songs are better, just that you can pick up the influences or common musical threads from past albums in these new tracks.

Love this post. One thing I really love about the band getting into this stage of their career is seeing how the albums sort of relate and converse with each other. I think every album is usually in some way a reaction to the album that immediately precedes it, so Lightning Bolt fits into the equation for Gigaton, but I also feel that Yield and Binaural act as precursors or predictors of Gigaton as well. I think the breadth of Yield and how the band is stretching themselves but still very comfortable being PJ inform Gigaton, but I also think the atypical song structures and experimentation of Binaural also inform it as well. I'll take the bait and see where I land:

Who Ever Said - Breakerfall, Far Behind
Superblood Wolfmoon - Gods Dice, Grievance (song structure)
Dance of Clairvoyants - You Are, Infallible, Who You Are/Do the Evolution (just for being out there PJ experiments that have no precedent and that just work)
Quick Escape - Deep, Brother
Alright - Lowlight, Otherside, In My Tree (for lyrics)
Seven O'Clock - Army Reserve, Sleight of Hand
Never Destination - MFC, Green Disease
Take the Long Way - Get Right, Big Wave
Buckle Up - Parachutes, All those Yesterdays
Comes Then Goes - Immortality, Guaranteed
Retrograde - Sirens, Oceans, Hard Sun
River Cross - Parting Ways, Light Years

I guess Binaural didn't show up as much as I thought while Riot Act did. But I think the template for them tackling non-traditional song structures is directly informed by Binaural. I would love an album that can similarly hold a thematic conversation with Vitalogy, I think they have that in them.

What the heck happened there

It’s chaos

Love this post.

This album has not aged well. I really liked some of it at first, then less and less each listen and now I can't listen to any of it without cringing.

that sounds like a neurological condition. you should have it checked.

tree_ wrote:This album has not aged well. I really liked some of it at first, then less and less each listen and now I can't listen to any of it without cringing.

This is the journey I go through in revisiting almost every record I owned in 1990-1993.

stip wrote:that sounds like a neurological condition. you should have it checked.

I wanna make that experiment Tuolumne did. Maybe in my next listen.

By the way, i listened to this one on sunday and its fucking great.

It’s kind of amazing to see Seven O’Clock equated to Sleight of Hand, Army Reserve, and Inside Job...but not to Down.