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Re: Gigaton: Official album thread
Posted: Thu May 28, 2020 9:23 pm
by RockPusher
McParadigm wrote:I think it’s fair to say LB does some treading of water, at least? I would call it their low tide...a tired-sounding record managed largely by their producer, lacking in artistic hunger and not really feeling it so much anymore. It sounds to my ears like a band with far too little pride for how far they’ve come and what they can do. A big, blustering rock record full of self-doubt, mostly hiding it but not very well. It’s like a placeholder for a Pearl Jam record, or a shadow of one. Riot Act sounded whooped but alive. Lightning Bolt sounds alive, but in stasis.
I'm pretty sure I like LB more than you do (I wrote a glowing review of it once upon a time) but I generally agree with your well-written critique.
Re: Gigaton: Official album thread
Posted: Thu May 28, 2020 10:24 pm
by stip
I am probably the biggest Lbolt defender here and I agree with a lot of that. it is clearly an insecure record
Re: Gigaton: Official album thread
Posted: Thu May 28, 2020 10:35 pm
by epilogue
stip wrote:I am probably the biggest Lbolt defender here and I agree with a lot of that. it is clearly an insecure record
What do you mean? Insecure, how?
Re: Gigaton: Official album thread
Posted: Thu May 28, 2020 10:42 pm
by LetMeSleep
Have we listed all the call outs and influences on this album? A few seem pretty obvious but there are more scattered throughout.
David Byrne/Talking Heads - DotC vocals
Queen/Freddie Mercury - Quick Escape lyrics
Zeppelin - Quick Escape lyrics
Bowie - Quick Escape lyrics, very loose Life On Mars
Petty - Never Destination final lyrical couplet
Cornell - Comes Then Goes tribute
Anyone pick up any others? Is there a Prince/purple one somewhere?
Re: Gigaton: Official album thread
Posted: Thu May 28, 2020 10:44 pm
by stip
River Cross - Peter Gabriel
Re: Gigaton: Official album thread
Posted: Thu May 28, 2020 10:49 pm
by epilogue
LetMeSleep wrote:Have we listed all the call outs and influences on this album? A few seem pretty obvious but there are more scattered throughout.
David Byrne/Talking Heads - DotC vocals
Queen/Freddie Mercury - Quick Escape lyrics
Zeppelin - Quick Escape lyrics
Bowie - Quick Escape lyrics, very loose Life On Mars
Petty - Never Destination final lyrical couplet
Cornell - Comes Then Goes tribute
Anyone pick up any others? Is there a Prince/purple one somewhere?
What's the Petty call out?
Re: Gigaton: Official album thread
Posted: Thu May 28, 2020 10:50 pm
by RockPusher
LetMeSleep wrote:Have we listed all the call outs and influences on this album? A few seem pretty obvious but there are more scattered throughout.
David Byrne/Talking Heads - DotC vocals
Queen/Freddie Mercury - Quick Escape lyrics
Zeppelin - Quick Escape lyrics
Bowie - Quick Escape lyrics, very loose Life On Mars
Petty - Never Destination final lyrical couplet
Cornell - Comes Then Goes tribute
Anyone pick up any others? Is there a Prince/purple one somewhere?
Obviously Soundgarden on TTLW, and there are some heavy Who vibes on Who Ever Said (I don't think the name is a coincidence) and Never Destination.
Re: Gigaton: Official album thread
Posted: Thu May 28, 2020 10:54 pm
by Ms Harmless
durdencommatyler wrote:LetMeSleep wrote:Have we listed all the call outs and influences on this album? A few seem pretty obvious but there are more scattered throughout.
David Byrne/Talking Heads - DotC vocals
Queen/Freddie Mercury - Quick Escape lyrics
Zeppelin - Quick Escape lyrics
Bowie - Quick Escape lyrics, very loose Life On Mars
Petty - Never Destination final lyrical couplet
Cornell - Comes Then Goes tribute
Anyone pick up any others? Is there a Prince/purple one somewhere?
What's the Petty call out?
the tag of Never Destination
Re: Gigaton: Official album thread
Posted: Thu May 28, 2020 10:55 pm
by RockPusher
Ms Harmless wrote:durdencommatyler wrote:LetMeSleep wrote:Have we listed all the call outs and influences on this album? A few seem pretty obvious but there are more scattered throughout.
David Byrne/Talking Heads - DotC vocals
Queen/Freddie Mercury - Quick Escape lyrics
Zeppelin - Quick Escape lyrics
Bowie - Quick Escape lyrics, very loose Life On Mars
Petty - Never Destination final lyrical couplet
Cornell - Comes Then Goes tribute
Anyone pick up any others? Is there a Prince/purple one somewhere?
What's the Petty call out?
the tag of Never Destination
I mean, if you can't hear the Petty there, I don't know what to tell you. Also, the guitar solo early in the song is very Tom.
Re: Gigaton: Official album thread
Posted: Thu May 28, 2020 11:07 pm
by Rob
Yeah, you can argue whether or not they did a good job with it, but to me the whole song has Tom Petty in mind. The tag at the end drives it home, but once you hear it, it's present throughout. To me, anyway.
EDIT - except for the BRY jam in the middle. That's the most PJ minute of Gigaton.
Re: Gigaton: Official album thread
Posted: Thu May 28, 2020 11:10 pm
by epilogue
So y'all are saying it's a musical shout-out and not a literal or lyrical one?
Re: Gigaton: Official album thread
Posted: Thu May 28, 2020 11:13 pm
by Jorge
LetMeSleep wrote:Have we listed all the call outs and influences on this album? A few seem pretty obvious but there are more scattered throughout.
David Byrne/Talking Heads - DotC vocals
Queen/Freddie Mercury - Quick Escape lyrics
Zeppelin - Quick Escape lyrics
Bowie - Quick Escape lyrics, very loose Life On Mars
Petty - Never Destination final lyrical couplet
Cornell - Comes Then Goes tribute
Anyone pick up any others? Is there a Prince/purple one somewhere?
I'm certain this isn't a deliberate reference (though I know Stone and Ed are fans) but the verses in "Quick Escape" are very similar, in melody and cadence, to "Tokyo Storm Warning" by Elvis Costello
Re: Gigaton: Official album thread
Posted: Thu May 28, 2020 11:22 pm
by Rob
durdencommatyler wrote:So y'all are saying it's a musical shout-out and not a literal or lyrical one?
?
I think they just had him in mind. It's a PJ song closest to Petty in spirit, with some notes toward the end to drive it home.
Re: Gigaton: Official album thread
Posted: Thu May 28, 2020 11:23 pm
by epilogue
Rob wrote:durdencommatyler wrote:So y'all are saying it's a musical shout-out and not a literal or lyrical one?
?
I think they just had him in mind. It's a PJ song closest to Petty in spirit, with some notes toward the end to drive it home.
That's all I was getting at.
Re: Gigaton: Official album thread
Posted: Thu May 28, 2020 11:24 pm
by 7 Years and Maybe Longer
LetMeSleep wrote:Have we listed all the call outs and influences on this album? A few seem pretty obvious but there are more scattered throughout.
David Byrne/Talking Heads - DotC vocals
Queen/Freddie Mercury - Quick Escape lyrics
Zeppelin - Quick Escape lyrics
Bowie - Quick Escape lyrics, very loose Life On Mars
Petty - Never Destination final lyrical couplet
Cornell - Comes Then Goes tribute
Anyone pick up any others? Is there a Prince/purple one somewhere?
There was a theory in the Superblood Wolfmoon thread that the song was about Dolores O'Riordan (singer of The Cranberries). Supposedly, she died around the time of an actual superblood wolfmoon and some lyrics could fit that narrative.
When the leak happened, I believe some heard the "Thank you Bob Honey" line as "Thank You Mudhoney," which would have been much cooler.
Re: Gigaton: Official album thread
Posted: Thu May 28, 2020 11:26 pm
by digster
durdencommatyler wrote:So y'all are saying it's a musical shout-out and not a literal or lyrical one?
I think the "she was a singer in a rock and roll band" is a melodic lift from Listen to her Heart (I think, it's been a while since I heard that song).
Re: Gigaton: Official album thread
Posted: Thu May 28, 2020 11:28 pm
by epilogue
digster wrote:durdencommatyler wrote:So y'all are saying it's a musical shout-out and not a literal or lyrical one?
I think the "she was a singer in a rock and roll band" is a melodic lift from Listen to her Heart (I think, it's been a while since I heard that song).
Yeah, I can hear that. And, if I'm honest, it's the first time in this conversation that I've heard any Tom Petty in the song.
Re: Gigaton: Official album thread
Posted: Thu May 28, 2020 11:46 pm
by RockPusher
digster wrote:durdencommatyler wrote:So y'all are saying it's a musical shout-out and not a literal or lyrical one?
I think the "she was a singer in a rock and roll band" is a melodic lift from Listen to her Heart (I think, it's been a while since I heard that song).
Yes, that's the one
Re: Gigaton: Official album thread
Posted: Fri May 29, 2020 12:09 am
by stip
7 Years and Maybe Longer wrote:LetMeSleep wrote:Have we listed all the call outs and influences on this album? A few seem pretty obvious but there are more scattered throughout.
David Byrne/Talking Heads - DotC vocals
Queen/Freddie Mercury - Quick Escape lyrics
Zeppelin - Quick Escape lyrics
Bowie - Quick Escape lyrics, very loose Life On Mars
Petty - Never Destination final lyrical couplet
Cornell - Comes Then Goes tribute
Anyone pick up any others? Is there a Prince/purple one somewhere?
There was a theory in the Superblood Wolfmoon thread that the song was about Dolores O'Riordan (singer of The Cranberries). Supposedly, she died around the time of an actual superblood wolfmoon and some lyrics could fit that narrative.
When the leak happened, I believe some heard the "Thank you Bob Honey" line as "Thank You Mudhoney," which would have been much cooler.
That is definitely what I heard
Re: Gigaton: Official album thread
Posted: Fri May 29, 2020 1:42 am
by Birds in Hell
stip wrote:7 Years and Maybe Longer wrote:LetMeSleep wrote:Have we listed all the call outs and influences on this album? A few seem pretty obvious but there are more scattered throughout.
David Byrne/Talking Heads - DotC vocals
Queen/Freddie Mercury - Quick Escape lyrics
Zeppelin - Quick Escape lyrics
Bowie - Quick Escape lyrics, very loose Life On Mars
Petty - Never Destination final lyrical couplet
Cornell - Comes Then Goes tribute
Anyone pick up any others? Is there a Prince/purple one somewhere?
There was a theory in the Superblood Wolfmoon thread that the song was about Dolores O'Riordan (singer of The Cranberries). Supposedly, she died around the time of an actual superblood wolfmoon and some lyrics could fit that narrative.
When the leak happened, I believe some heard the "Thank you Bob Honey" line as "Thank You Mudhoney," which would have been much cooler.
That is definitely what I heard
Despite it being my favourite song on the album which I’ve listened to a bunch of times, my ear is yet to hear/register this line.