Re: Crucify the Insincere: A Smashing Pumpkins Thread
Posted: Thu April 03, 2025 2:49 am
by zeb
I see the value of having some special release at Billy's teashop but I also can't agree more with Trees here.
Re: Crucify the Insincere: A Smashing Pumpkins Thread
Posted: Thu April 03, 2025 4:46 am
by VinylGuy
Machina belongs to their old label right? I dont remember which one it was. I guess they will eventually make a wide release of it in some form.
Re: Crucify the Insincere: A Smashing Pumpkins Thread
Posted: Sat June 14, 2025 3:31 am
by Ello Sailor
Melissa Auf der Maur came out and played bass on "The Everlasting Gaze" during the encore of the Machines of God show in Montreal. Wtf. That's awesome.
Re: Crucify the Insincere: A Smashing Pumpkins Thread
Posted: Sat June 14, 2025 3:47 am
by VinylGuy
oh wow
i thought her and Billy were not friends
Re: Crucify the Insincere: A Smashing Pumpkins Thread
Posted: Fri June 27, 2025 2:32 am
by AndySlash
machina reissue goes on sale tomorrow at 8am central at the teahouse site. 8xlp boxset combines machina I and II, and has 30-some odd bonus tracks, too. no idea what the cost will be yet. original machina I is getting lp/cd reissue as well.
i'm seeing the machines of god show on sunday, looking forward to it.
Re: Crucify the Insincere: A Smashing Pumpkins Thread
Posted: Fri June 27, 2025 4:23 am
by zeb
Very cool but way out of my price range.
Hopeful that the Machina II material might make it to streaming, which would be nice.
Re: Crucify the Insincere: A Smashing Pumpkins Thread
Posted: Fri June 27, 2025 12:12 pm
by wease
I’ve been waiting so long for it.
Re: Crucify the Insincere: A Smashing Pumpkins Thread
Posted: Fri June 27, 2025 1:54 pm
by VinylGuy
Not a fan of Machina but in curious about the unreleased stuff, Billy always has amazing material there.
Re: Crucify the Insincere: A Smashing Pumpkins Thread
Posted: Tue July 01, 2025 9:40 am
by Jorge
Re: Crucify the Insincere: A Smashing Pumpkins Thread
Posted: Wed July 02, 2025 2:05 am
by Ello Sailor
VinylGuy wrote:Not a fan of Machina but in curious about the unreleased stuff, Billy always has amazing material there.
Yeah, I count at least 10 never-before-heard tracks in there. Unreal.
Kinda wish they were released 20 years ago though. I still love them but, you know...
Re: Crucify the Insincere: A Smashing Pumpkins Thread
Posted: Wed July 02, 2025 11:18 am
by armogi
Ello Sailor wrote:
VinylGuy wrote:Not a fan of Machina but in curious about the unreleased stuff, Billy always has amazing material there.
Yeah, I count at least 10 never-before-heard tracks in there. Unreal.
Kinda wish they were released 20 years ago though. I still love them but, you know...
hey, billy is offering free shipping apparently, it's a super deal right now!
Re: Crucify the Insincere: A Smashing Pumpkins Thread
Posted: Wed July 02, 2025 11:30 am
by Ello Sailor
Yeah, he's a dildo. It's fine. It will eventually end up on streaming.
Re: Crucify the Insincere: A Smashing Pumpkins Thread
Posted: Wed July 02, 2025 3:28 pm
by VinylGuy
Ello Sailor wrote:
VinylGuy wrote:Not a fan of Machina but in curious about the unreleased stuff, Billy always has amazing material there.
Yeah, I count at least 10 never-before-heard tracks in there. Unreal.
Kinda wish they were released 20 years ago though. I still love them but, you know...
I listened Machina in full the other day and i liked it so im curious about all those songs left. But yeah, ill wait for streaming or youtube.
Re: Crucify the Insincere: A Smashing Pumpkins Thread
Posted: Wed July 09, 2025 1:47 pm
by tree_
Re: Crucify the Insincere: A Smashing Pumpkins Thread
Posted: Wed July 09, 2025 11:46 pm
by zeb
Chamberlin did it better.
Re: Crucify the Insincere: A Smashing Pumpkins Thread
Posted: Thu July 10, 2025 12:35 am
by Ello Sailor
Yeah, that was super underwhelming. That whole series is very hit-or-miss to me. The ones with the massive genre/generational differences are cool, but rock drummers pretending they don't know hit rock songs and then playing bare standard rock drums over said songs is boring.
Re: Crucify the Insincere: A Smashing Pumpkins Thread
Posted: Thu July 10, 2025 12:36 am
by Ello Sailor
I mean... thank you for posting, Tree.
Re: Crucify the Insincere: A Smashing Pumpkins Thread
Posted: Thu July 10, 2025 1:19 pm
by Jorge
Ello Sailor wrote:Yeah, that was super underwhelming. That whole series is very hit-or-miss to me. The ones with the massive genre/generational differences are cool, but rock drummers pretending they don't know hit rock songs and then playing bare standard rock drums over said songs is boring.
The second verse (starting at around 9:42 in the video) was awesome. Cool cymbal and tom work, wouldn't exactly call it "bare standard rock drums," there's some finesse to it. Obviously the original track is better/more suitable but I like hearing these alternate takes.
Re: Crucify the Insincere: A Smashing Pumpkins Thread
Posted: Thu July 10, 2025 11:21 pm
by Ello Sailor
I think the problem was the song choice. They kinda stitched him up. Jimmy's original part is so unique that the chances of playing four on the floor and having it sound interesting was always going to be low. The tom fill was kinda cool, but still pretty standard overall.
I'm glad you enjoyed it though.
Re: Crucify the Insincere: A Smashing Pumpkins Thread