Red Mosquito

I ran for president to present the citizens of our country. I am here to change the broken system so it serves their families and their communities well. I am talking -- and really talking on this very entrenched power structure, and what we're doing is we're talking about the power structure; we're talking about its entrenchment. As a result, the media is going through what they have to go through too often times distort - not all the time - and some of the media is fantastic, I have to say - they're honest and fantastic.

wut

McParadigm wrote:

E.H. Ruddock wrote:

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Simple Torture wrote:

E.H. Ruddock wrote:

doug rr wrote:trumps conference

I hope McP is watching this

For his mental health, I hope he's not.

No tv or streaming access at work. And I prefer to read transcripts for this kind of thing.

When you read Trump's responses, do you do it in his voice in your head?

It's like reading closed captioning for live television where people are rapidly talking over one another.

I've had great from congress, generally.

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Let me list to you some of the things that we've done in just a short period of time. I just got here. And I got here with no Cabinet. Again, each of these actions is a promise I made to the American people.

And we are going to have a wall that works, not gonna have a wall like they have now which is either non-existent or a joke.

Wait. What?

(About Flynn) He is a man who there was a certain amount of information given to Vice President Pence, who is with us today. And I was not happy with the way that information was given.

He literally says "I didn't like Mike Pence finding out."

you guys just don't get it

Because when I looked at the information, I said, "I don't think he did anything wrong; if anything, he did something right." He was coming into office. He looked at the information. He said, "Huh, that's fine." That's what they're supposed to do. They're supposed to -- he didn't just call Russia. He called and spoke to both ways, I think there were 30-some-odd countries. He's doing the job.

BurtReynolds wrote:you guys just don't get it

Just because something is attractive to Trump's base doesn't mean the press conference was not 75 minutes of straight-up WTF. Those two things can both be true.

Although, if I were Trump I would be worried about the need to expand beyond your base. I think it's a given that he needs to do better next time than he did last time, because I'm not sure it's possible for the Democrats to run a more divisive and tarnished candidate than they did last time.

digster wrote:

BurtReynolds wrote:you guys just don't get it

Just because something is attractive to Trump's base doesn't mean the press conference was not 75 minutes of straight-up WTF. Those two things can both be true.

Although, if I were Trump I would be worried. I think it's a given that he needs to do better next time than he did last time, because I'm not sure it's possible for the Democrats to run a more divisive and tarnished candidate than they did last time.

Can they even come back now with a candidate with a real chance? Electoral college makes it all so pointless.

Donald Trump wrote:Well the leaks are real. You're the one that wrote about them and reported them, I mean the leaks are real. You know what they said, you saw it and the leaks are absolutely real. The news is fake because so much of the news is fake. So one thing that I felt it was very important to do -- and I hope we can correct it. Because there's nobody I have more respect for -- well, maybe a little bit but the reporters, good reporters.

Only an idiot wrote:high five bro he shut them DOWN

He defends flynn but fires him?

Tweets from Joaquin Castro:

After attending the ICE meeting it's hard not to conclude that President Trump has started his mass deportation plan.

Only Dreamers with no offenses (including traffic tickets) or perceived gang affiliations seem exempt.

Qs ICE didn't answer:
How many new ppl in detention ctrs
Breakdown of countries of origin
Breakdown visa overstays v "border crossers"

thought about how to describe it; I know families are scared. But it must be called what it appears to be.

For those who argue it's the same as previous admins. ICE fully agrees mandate to deport is broader and will ask for larger budget.

Called him having a high staff turnover ages ago.

How many months in before it's a totally different body of staff?

Or will he be impeached before then?

McParadigm wrote:

Donald Trump wrote:The news is fake because so much of the news is fake.

uh...

Yeah sure hes an idiot. But this deportation stuff.

That's a fucking dire summation, coming from a member of the House.

washing machine wrote:https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/02/16/donald-trumps-grievance-filled-press-conference-annotated/?utm_term=.091332e33c8e#annotations:11355778

Annotation of the press conference, brought to you by Genius and WaPo.

Jesus Christ...

You friends with those blackies?

digster wrote:

BurtReynolds wrote:you guys just don't get it

Just because something is attractive to Trump's base doesn't mean the press conference was not 75 minutes of straight-up WTF. Those two things can both be true.

Although, if I were Trump I would be worried about the need to expand beyond your base. I think it's a given that he needs to do better next time than he did last time, because I'm not sure it's possible for the Democrats to run a more divisive and tarnished candidate than they did last time.

He didn't need to expand beyond his base during the election. The middle came to him. That's something many on the Left can't understand. I think it's a deep psychological blind spot.

The Left seems to eternally overestimate it's support from the middle and relies on deeply flawed polling data. I wouldn't take anything as a given anymore.

edit: but yeah the dems can't do any worse than Clinton. Any other candidate will probably win.

BurtReynolds wrote:

digster wrote:

BurtReynolds wrote:you guys just don't get it

Just because something is attractive to Trump's base doesn't mean the press conference was not 75 minutes of straight-up WTF. Those two things can both be true.

Although, if I were Trump I would be worried about the need to expand beyond your base. I think it's a given that he needs to do better next time than he did last time, because I'm not sure it's possible for the Democrats to run a more divisive and tarnished candidate than they did last time.

He didn't need to expand beyond his base during the election. The middle came to him. That's something many on the Left can't understand. I think it's a deep psychological blind spot.

The Left seems to eternally overestimate it's support from the middle and relies on deeply flawed polling data. I wouldn't take anything as a given anymore.

edit: but yeah the dems can't do any worse than Clinton. Any other candidate will probably win.

Without wasting time on a debate about polling that has been repeatedly covered, Trump was in fact polling well with independents (beating Clinton) in most polls leading up to the election. And sure enough they helped him win in key districts, so the polling data on the subject was indeed predictive.

Now, he's historically low...not just in his low approval, but especially in the percentage of independents claiming high disapproval, a stance independents rarely take on anything.

So Samantha Bee just said that Paul Ryan would be the one expected to draw up articles of impeachment, should we get there. So does that mean there would have to be a majority in the house pushing for impeachment, or is it more about the amount of pressure (not necessarily a majority, but enough noise that he basically has to relent)?