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Re: Dark Matter (song)

Posted: Wed February 21, 2024 12:47 pm
by Ello Sailor
Why am I defending The Pearl Jams.

Re: Dark Matter (song)

Posted: Wed February 21, 2024 12:54 pm
by Ms Harmless
the drums do sound fine: you can hear all the intricacies of the groove, as Aunt_Claire_Foy points out, and that's all I ever ask for

Re: Dark Matter (song)

Posted: Wed February 21, 2024 12:59 pm
by Aunt_Claire_Foy
Ms Harmless wrote:the drums do sound fine: you can hear all the intricacies of the groove, as Aunt_Claire_Foy points out, and that's all I ever ask for
This is key.

My only complaint which has evolved since release... is during the guitar solo you still hear two rhythm guitars. I miss the old days where each channel had an assigned role. In fact I think in the liner notes for Yield they qualified Stone as Right Guitar and Mike as Left Guitar referencing the panning strategy.

So when you hear Mike pick up the solo his rhythm part drops, giving it that live feel. That's not here, and it's a little off putting when you notice it.

Re: Dark Matter (song)

Posted: Wed February 21, 2024 1:09 pm
by Ms Harmless
Aunt_Claire_Foy wrote:
Ms Harmless wrote:the drums do sound fine: you can hear all the intricacies of the groove, as Aunt_Claire_Foy points out, and that's all I ever ask for
This is key.

My only complaint which has evolved since release... is during the guitar solo you still hear two rhythm guitars. I miss the old days where each channel had an assigned role. In fact I think in the liner notes for Yield they qualified Stone as Right Guitar and Mike as Left Guitar referencing the panning strategy.

So when you hear Mike pick up the solo his rhythm part drops, giving it that live feel. That's not here, and it's a little off putting when you notice it.
yeah, I couldn't articulate it like that because I don't primarily listen to guitars, but I did always feel it gets a bit "muddy" during the solo, which means Mike needs to come in louder, which pushes Ed further back (in itself not a bad thing by that stage of the song)

Re: Dark Matter (song)

Posted: Wed February 21, 2024 1:26 pm
by oneway23
Aunt_Claire_Foy wrote:
Ms Harmless wrote:the drums do sound fine: you can hear all the intricacies of the groove, as Aunt_Claire_Foy points out, and that's all I ever ask for
This is key.

My only complaint which has evolved since release... is during the guitar solo you still hear two rhythm guitars. I miss the old days where each channel had an assigned role. In fact I think in the liner notes for Yield they qualified Stone as Right Guitar and Mike as Left Guitar referencing the panning strategy.

So when you hear Mike pick up the solo his rhythm part drops, giving it that live feel. That's not here, and it's a little off putting when you notice it.
Nothing pithy to add, just showing appreciation for the great insight, thank you! Miss these days as well.
As an aside, great Billy Gould shout-out by Ello on Jeff's bass track.

Re: Dark Matter (song)

Posted: Wed February 21, 2024 1:54 pm
by Anders
Do hope it's like that on the album, with two separate guitars.

Re: Dark Matter (song)

Posted: Wed February 21, 2024 3:45 pm
by guitar_davey
I took a break from this yesterday but I blasted it twice this morning in the car after dropping the kiddo off to school. It's a 4 star banger.

Re: Dark Matter (song)

Posted: Wed February 21, 2024 3:48 pm
by Coach
still 4 for me, too, and I bet I like it even more once I hear it live on the tour

Re: Dark Matter (song)

Posted: Wed February 21, 2024 3:51 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
How many times are you guys listening to this!? I get sick of even my favorite songs if i listen to them over and over again.

Re: Dark Matter (song)

Posted: Wed February 21, 2024 3:53 pm
by guitar_davey
E.H. Ruddock wrote:How many times are you guys listening to this!? I get sick of even my favorite songs if i listen to them over and over again.
So do I, but I'm having a hard time helping it. This is what happens when you get old and even more uncool.

Re: Dark Matter (song)

Posted: Wed February 21, 2024 3:56 pm
by McParadigm
E.H. Ruddock wrote:How many times are you guys listening to this!? I get sick of even my favorite songs if i listen to them over and over again.
Turns out people have different listening habits.

Re: Dark Matter (song)

Posted: Wed February 21, 2024 4:00 pm
by Chris_H_2
McParadigm wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:How many times are you guys listening to this!? I get sick of even my favorite songs if i listen to them over and over again.
Turns out people have different listening habits.
yeah, but at some point listening falls off with everyone unless you're g-dam psychopath.

Re: Dark Matter (song)

Posted: Wed February 21, 2024 4:00 pm
by Ms Harmless
Chris_H_2 wrote:
McParadigm wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:How many times are you guys listening to this!? I get sick of even my favorite songs if i listen to them over and over again.
Turns out people have different listening habits.
yeah, but at some point listening falls off with everyone unless you're g-dam psychopath.
eh, or autistic

Re: Dark Matter (song)

Posted: Wed February 21, 2024 4:04 pm
by oneway23
Not begrudging anyone their joys, but, there's just too damn much amazing music in the world for me to listen to any one thing that many times. I've got records that came out five years ago that I haven't heard nearly sixty or seventy times.

Re: Dark Matter (song)

Posted: Wed February 21, 2024 4:06 pm
by guitar_davey
I've barely listened to any PJ of late until this song came out, and I'm probably listening to it once a day at most. I think it'll all be ok.

Re: Dark Matter (song)

Posted: Wed February 21, 2024 4:10 pm
by Kevin Davis
E.H. Ruddock wrote:How many times are you guys listening to this!? I get sick of even my favorite songs if i listen to them over and over again.
Three times since last Tuesday. Sometimes I get the urge to listen to the same song on repeat, but this hasn't proven to be one of those songs.

Re: Dark Matter (song)

Posted: Wed February 21, 2024 4:10 pm
by Chris_H_2
so, i decided yesterday to throw on no code for the first time in like 5 years. man what a gem. it's loose, chaotic, organic, and genuine.

Re: Dark Matter (song)

Posted: Wed February 21, 2024 4:11 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
McParadigm wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:How many times are you guys listening to this!? I get sick of even my favorite songs if i listen to them over and over again.
Turns out people have different listening habits.
Nonsense. Everyone should listen to music like i do!

Re: Dark Matter (song)

Posted: Wed February 21, 2024 4:12 pm
by oneway23
guitar_davey wrote:I've barely listened to any PJ of late until this song came out, and I'm probably listening to it once a day at most. I think it'll all be ok.
I will say, to be fair, I do tend to get heavily obsessive around album cycles for foundational bands in my life, of which Pearl Jam is one. I'll listen to the albums, outtakes, various bootlegs, etc., in the lead-up to release, but not the pre-release singles. Keeps the songs fresh for the album. Much like visiting here, I'll carry that through for about two to three weeks post-release and then move on until I either go to a tour date or else there's another new album.

Re: Dark Matter (song)

Posted: Wed February 21, 2024 4:28 pm
by guitar_davey
oneway23 wrote:
guitar_davey wrote:I've barely listened to any PJ of late until this song came out, and I'm probably listening to it once a day at most. I think it'll all be ok.
I will say, to be fair, I do tend to get heavily obsessive around album cycles for foundational bands in my life, of which Pearl Jam is one. I'll listen to the albums, outtakes, various bootlegs, etc., in the lead-up to release, but not the pre-release singles. Keeps the songs fresh for the album. Much like visiting here, I'll carry that through for about two to three weeks post-release and then move on until I either go to a tour date or else there's another new album.
:thumbsup: