Red Mosquito

There's not much similarity in that one either.

evenslow wrote: People love to do the gotcha game of derivation. And maybe it's just me, but I've never heard more than a 10% similarity in GTF and GTC. I try but it's not there. Totally overblown.

What if I told you...

even the band thinks it's there

Okay, okay, but what bout Got Some and that Devo song... you HAVE to admit... whoa, SQUIRREL!

Kevin Davis wrote:There's not much similarity in that one either.

I think it's clear as day.

theplatypus wrote:

evenslow wrote: People love to do the gotcha game of derivation. And maybe it's just me, but I've never heard more than a 10% similarity in GTF and GTC. I try but it's not there. Totally overblown.

What if I told you...

even the band thinks it's there

I'd tell you the band also says every new album is their best work.

Kevin Davis wrote:There's not much similarity in that one either.

is this responding to my post?

theplatypus wrote:

evenslow wrote: People love to do the gotcha game of derivation. And maybe it's just me, but I've never heard more than a 10% similarity in GTF and GTC. I try but it's not there. Totally overblown.

What if I told you...

even the band thinks it's there

Yeah, I know Mike has said that it's there but I think most of that is him being humble and employing some CYA cuz he wrote it. I honestly don't hear it much at all.

elliseamos wrote:

Kevin Davis wrote:There's not much similarity in that one either.

is this responding to my post?

It's effing chaos in here, gang.

theplatypus wrote:

Kevin Davis wrote:There's not much similarity in that one either.

I think it's clear as day.

It's four notes, a simple descent down the most basic of scales. And even then there are tons of variations in the songs to set them apart. What are you hearing exactly?

elliseamos wrote:

Kevin Davis wrote:There's not much similarity in that one either.

is this responding to my post?

It wasn't, but I'd say the same thing applies. I agree that part sounds pretty much identical, but it's two power chords. 5000 teenagers probably come up with that exact same riff every day.

WtOB? wrote:

elliseamos wrote:

Kevin Davis wrote:There's not much similarity in that one either.

is this responding to my post?

It's effing chaos in here, gang.

Yeah, THANKS PLATY!

WtOB? wrote:

elliseamos wrote:

Kevin Davis wrote:There's not much similarity in that one either.

is this responding to my post?

It's effing chaos in here, gang.

Poor Peter Criss...

Kevin Davis wrote:

theplatypus wrote:

Kevin Davis wrote:There's not much similarity in that one either.

I think it's clear as day.

It's four notes, a simple descent down the most basic of scales. And even then there are tons of variations in the songs to set them apart. What are you hearing exactly?

Mike's playing and Ed's vocals very closely mirror the main verse melody (and some of the harmony) in the Zeppelin song. This doesn't make it the same song-- they head in totally different directions. But to say "there's no similarity" feels a bit disingenuous. Clearly, it's there, people can hear it, Mike and Stone have commented on it, the band seemed to acknowledge it when they segued from GTF into the Zeppelin song with Robert Plant. I agree people go overboard with the need to point out even the slightest similarities (like the chord change in "Supersonic"-- "OH GOD IT'S A MANKIND REHASH"), but in this case I don't think that's what's happening.

durdencommatyler wrote:Poor Peter Criss...

poor is not the word i'd put near his name.

theplatypus wrote:

Kevin Davis wrote:

theplatypus wrote:

Kevin Davis wrote:There's not much similarity in that one either.

I think it's clear as day.

It's four notes, a simple descent down the most basic of scales. And even then there are tons of variations in the songs to set them apart. What are you hearing exactly?

Mike's playing and Ed's vocals very closely mirror the main verse melody (and some of the harmony) in the Zeppelin song. This doesn't make it the same song-- they head in totally different directions. But to say "there's no similarity" feels a bit disingenuous. Clearly, it's there, people can hear it, Mike and Stone have commented on it, the band seemed to acknowledge it when they segued from GTF into the Zeppelin song with Robert Plant. I agree people go overboard with the need to point out even the slightest similarities (like the chord change in "Supersonic"-- "OH GOD IT'S A MANKIND REHASH"), but in this case I don't think that's what's happening.

To your point, I laughed when Ed (on a 2000 boot?) called introduced the song as Give To Fly To California.

Also, Jorge, sort of on this same topic, but not really, do you think Ament's Doubting Thomasina sounds at all like an Elvis Costello song? Not a specific song, just a song in the vein of Elvis Costello?

durdencommatyler wrote:Also, Jorge, sort of on this same topic, but not really, do you think Ament's Doubting Thomasina sounds at all like an Elvis Costello song? Not a specific song, just a song in the vein of Elvis Costello?

The verse riff on Marker in the Sand always reminds me of Elvis Costello, in a good way. Jagged, angular, angry - in the ballpark of (I Don't Want to Go to) Chelsea.

evenslow wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:Also, Jorge, sort of on this same topic, but not really, do you think Ament's Doubting Thomasina sounds at all like an Elvis Costello song? Not a specific song, just a song in the vein of Elvis Costello?

The verse riff on Marker in the Sand always reminds me of Elvis Costello, in a good way. Jagged, angular, angry - in the ballpark of (I Don't Want to Go to) Chelsea.

The first of his songs to make me realize what I'd been missing. Still one of my favs to this day.

durdencommatyler wrote:

evenslow wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:Also, Jorge, sort of on this same topic, but not really, do you think Ament's Doubting Thomasina sounds at all like an Elvis Costello song? Not a specific song, just a song in the vein of Elvis Costello?

The verse riff on Marker in the Sand always reminds me of Elvis Costello, in a good way. Jagged, angular, angry - in the ballpark of (I Don't Want to Go to) Chelsea.

The first of his songs to make me realize what I'd been missing. Still one of my favs to this day.

Dude had one of the best 5 album runs in history brah.