Red Mosquito

wease wrote:

tragabigzanda wrote:Asha is highly intelligent and in many respects right, but no way does Trump approach the situation with that level of nuanced understanding.

The people surrounding him might, tho.

No doubt -- Miller, Kushner, they're dumb but they're not idiots. I just find it amusing any time a talking head tries to ascribe some intellectual thoughts process to Pres. Cheeto Dust.

digster wrote:I mean, I don't think he would ever view it in those terms, or with that level of nuance, but I don't think that necessarily means it's not valid. I find Trump is most easily understood as an authoritarian with ADD; every lizard-brain tendency he has skews in that direction, but he's hindered because he lacks the ability to maintain self-discipline about anything.

Yeah his reptilian brain is pretty apparent

digster wrote:I mean, I don't think he would ever view it in those terms, or with that level of nuance, but I don't think that necessarily means it's not valid. I find Trump is most easily understood as an authoritarian with ADD; every lizard-brain tendency he has skews in that direction, but he's hindered because he lacks the ability to maintain self-discipline about anything.

Amen

There are a lot of racists, for example. that don't believe they are racists. Doesn't mean they aren't racists.

Donnie may not intellectually understand what he's doing on the same level that Rasha does. But that doesn't change the fact that it's what he's doing. He doesn't need to understand it that way. The shit's ingrained.

guys I 100% agree with all of this. The point I did a horrible job of making was that Dems and otherwise left-leaning people seem to be in the habit of overthinking a response to a man, and an ideological base, that has neither the inclination nor the wits to battle on those intellectual grounds.

I hate to say it, but the shit that has gone on this past week is probably way more apt to move the needle on voter sentiment than some well-articulated tweet series.

That doesn't undermine the value of Asha's thinking at all. I've been following her for a long time and always appreciate her insights. But it's 100% spoken to the choir, and probably isn't doing much to change public sentiment.

It's just a bummer that it takes blood and tear gas to get people to start thinking critically. But hey, if that's what it takes for my Instagram friends to stop posting about their favorite cocktails for a minute, so be it.

tragabigzanda wrote:

wease wrote:

tragabigzanda wrote:Asha is highly intelligent and in many respects right, but no way does Trump approach the situation with that level of nuanced understanding.

The people surrounding him might, tho.

No doubt -- Miller, Kushner, they're dumb but they're not idiots. I just find it amusing any time a talking head tries to ascribe some intellectual thoughts process to Pres. Cheeto Dust.

That's about the level of his intelligence. Cheetah dust.

tragabigzanda wrote:guys I 100% agree with all of this. The point I did a horrible job of making was that Dems and otherwise left-leaning people seem to be in the habit of overthinking a response to a man, and an ideological base, that has neither the inclination nor the wits to battle on those intellectual grounds.

I hate to say it, but the shit that has gone on this past week is probably way more apt to move the needle on voter sentiment than some well-articulated tweet series.

That doesn't undermine the value of Asha's thinking at all. I've been following her for a long time and always appreciate her insights. But it's 100% spoken to the choir, and probably isn't doing much to change public sentiment.

It's just a bummer that it takes blood and tear gas to get people to start thinking critically. But hey, if that's what it takes for my Instagram friends to stop posting about their favorite cocktails for a minute, so be it.

Moscow Mule

tragabigzanda wrote:guys I 100% agree with all of this. The point I did a horrible job of making was that Dems and otherwise left-leaning people seem to be in the habit of overthinking a response to a man, and an ideological base, that has neither the inclination nor the wits to battle on those intellectual grounds.

I hate to say it, but the shit that has gone on this past week is probably way more apt to move the needle on voter sentiment than some well-articulated tweet series.

That doesn't undermine the value of Asha's thinking at all. I've been following her for a long time and always appreciate her insights. But it's 100% spoken to the choir, and probably isn't doing much to change public sentiment.

It's just a bummer that it takes blood and tear gas to get people to start thinking critically. But hey, if that's what it takes for my Instagram friends to stop posting about their favorite cocktails for a minute, so be it.

Thanks for the idea.

Sazerac obviously.

tragabigzanda wrote: I hate to say it, but the shit that has gone on this past week is probably way more apt to move the needle on voter sentiment than some well-articulated tweet series.

Agree

That doesn't undermine the value of Asha's thinking at all. I've been following her for a long time and always appreciate her insights.

Of course not. But who is Asha again? You guys use real & RM names interchangeably, I get confused. Now, I've seen that name a lot - is that SBWM? And is that the old meatwad? And, she's a girl?!? Lol. To borrow from peeps, I just assume everyone here had a penis (except Knee Tunes, who I've seen referred to as a woman already, and pepperwhite). The rest of you are guys? (regulars) Just curious.

It's not either or, though.

And maybe there is value in educating and further arming the choir. Who says the twitter threads have to be about moving the opposition's needle? Sometimes it's about articulating it for your own team so that everyone better understands and can better fight against.

Rob wrote:But who is Asha again? You guys use real & RM names interchangeably, I get confused. Now, I've seen that name a lot - is that SBWM? And is that the old meatwad? And, she's a girl?!? Lol. To borrow from peeps, I just assume everyone here had a penis (except Knee Tunes, who I've seen referred to as a woman already, and pepperwhite). The rest of you are guys? (regulars) Just curious.

Asha Rangappa is an American lawyer. She is a senior lecturer at Yale University’s Jackson Institute for Global Affairs and a commentator on CNN. She was previously an Associate Dean at Yale Law School

durdencommatyler wrote:It's not either or, though.

And maybe there is value in educating and further arming the choir. Who says the twitter threads have to be about moving the opposition's needle? Sometimes it's about articulating it for your own team so that everyone better understands and can better fight against.

yeah, fair point.

This week has me all knee-jerky.

tragabigzanda wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:It's not either or, though.

And maybe there is value in educating and further arming the choir. Who says the twitter threads have to be about moving the opposition's needle? Sometimes it's about articulating it for your own team so that everyone better understands and can better fight against.

yeah, fair point.

This week has me all knee-jerky.

Need me to go down on you?

Strat wrote:

tragabigzanda wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:It's not either or, though.

And maybe there is value in educating and further arming the choir. Who says the twitter threads have to be about moving the opposition's needle? Sometimes it's about articulating it for your own team so that everyone better understands and can better fight against.

yeah, fair point.

This week has me all knee-jerky.

Need me to go down on you?

Probably not the safest route with all this knee jerking going on

Rangi Guy wrote:

Strat wrote:

tragabigzanda wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:It's not either or, though.

And maybe there is value in educating and further arming the choir. Who says the twitter threads have to be about moving the opposition's needle? Sometimes it's about articulating it for your own team so that everyone better understands and can better fight against.

yeah, fair point.

This week has me all knee-jerky.

Need me to go down on you?

Probably not the safest route with all this knee jerking going on

AL

durdencommatyler wrote:

Rob wrote:But who is Asha again? You guys use real & RM names interchangeably, I get confused. Now, I've seen that name a lot - is that SBWM? And is that the old meatwad? And, she's a girl?!? Lol. To borrow from peeps, I just assume everyone here had a penis (except Knee Tunes, who I've seen referred to as a woman already, and pepperwhite). The rest of you are guys? (regulars) Just curious.

Asha Rangappa is an American lawyer. She is a senior lecturer at Yale University’s Jackson Institute for Global Affairs and a commentator on CNN. She was previously an Associate Dean at Yale Law School

Been reading her texts for ~20 years (usually agree) assuming it was some dude from the west coast. I live 20 min from Yale. Pretty awesome.

Posts, not texts, obv. Heh

Dems just need to put this on every and break available with two or three sentences saying this is how much trump detests you and your lives and the lives of black people.


100,000 dead Americans through corona
(Play clip of trump Mocking ‘I can’t breath’

Millions of Americans brutalised and dead Through racism
Finished with that shot of George Floyd
(Play clip of Trump Mocking ‘I can’t breath’

It applies to his corona shitshow and the current crisis.

He’s fucked. He’s gotta be