Red Mosquito

cutuphalfdead wrote:It seriously detracts from the song.

Well I think the same about MFC's chorus, so you know... I agree, but it doesn't break the deal just like other weaker choruses haven't. I don't think this band have a great batting average when it comes to choruses.

harmless wrote:

stupidmop wrote:That tiny riff before and during 'you gotta know you'll never let her go' is the best part.

That bit didn't sound good at Wrigley at all, but it was because either Stone wasn't playing his second part, or we couldn't hear it. But it really beefs up the part, that riff.

I liked it there too. The song went from 'meh' to ' awww yeah here we go' and then back to meh again.

stupidmop wrote:

harmless wrote:

stupidmop wrote:That tiny riff before and during 'you gotta know you'll never let her go' is the best part.

That bit didn't sound good at Wrigley at all, but it was because either Stone wasn't playing his second part, or we couldn't hear it. But it really beefs up the part, that riff.

I liked it there too. The song went from 'meh' to ' awww yeah here we go' and then back to meh again.

If I can ever get over the fact that it sounds like Unthought Known 2 then I may just love this song...

stupidmop wrote:

harmless wrote:

stupidmop wrote:That tiny riff before and during 'you gotta know you'll never let her go' is the best part.

That bit didn't sound good at Wrigley at all, but it was because either Stone wasn't playing his second part, or we couldn't hear it. But it really beefs up the part, that riff.

I liked it there too. The song went from 'meh' to ' awww yeah here we go' and then back to meh again.

You are an enigma trapped in a conundrum, stupidmop.

Strat wrote:

stupidmop wrote:

harmless wrote:

stupidmop wrote:That tiny riff before and during 'you gotta know you'll never let her go' is the best part.

That bit didn't sound good at Wrigley at all, but it was because either Stone wasn't playing his second part, or we couldn't hear it. But it really beefs up the part, that riff.

I liked it there too. The song went from 'meh' to ' awww yeah here we go' and then back to meh again.

If I can ever get over the fact that it sounds like Unthought Known 2 then I may just love this song...

That should be easy with plenty of listens; it's much more tightly structured with more interesting and distinct parts.

Glad that PJ is going to keep releasing this stuff and the interviews before the release date.

cutuphalfdead wrote:The chorus is the worst part of Lightning Bolt. It could have been a much more interesting song if they went in another direction there.

cleverman wrote: I got a pocket full of rubbers and
(you've gotta know you'll never let her go)

My homeboys do
(Lightning bolt!)
They do too
(Lightning bolt!)

If there's anything good about the chorus of Lightning Bolt, it's Ed's performance on the studio version. It sounds convincing and engaging. That's only an issue because I can't imagine it ever being that good live.

harmless wrote:

stupidmop wrote:

harmless wrote:

stupidmop wrote:That tiny riff before and during 'you gotta know you'll never let her go' is the best part.

That bit didn't sound good at Wrigley at all, but it was because either Stone wasn't playing his second part, or we couldn't hear it. But it really beefs up the part, that riff.

I liked it there too. The song went from 'meh' to ' awww yeah here we go' and then back to meh again.

You are an enigma trapped in a conundrum, stupidmop.

I aim to confuzzle

harmless wrote:If there's anything good about the chorus of Lightning Bolt, it's Ed's performance on the studio version. It sounds convincing and engaging. That's only an issue because I can't imagine it ever being that good live.

The bridge is kind of a wreck on the Wrigley version

Cleverman wrote:

harmless wrote:If there's anything good about the chorus of Lightning Bolt, it's Ed's performance on the studio version. It sounds convincing and engaging. That's only an issue because I can't imagine it ever being that good live.

The bridge is kind of a wreck on the Wrigley version

Yup, and it's one of the best things about the studio version, as is that final noisy verse and the outro. It's just all so passionately performed, it doesn't matter about the little niggles. I always liked that about Pearl Jam; when a song grabs me to the extent that all the flaws stop mattering, I know it's worked its magic.

BDB wrote:for ed being environmentally conscious and driving a big old lincoln i find it a bit funny.
maybe he's just really trying to be like neil.

Ha, yeah, that was actually the thing I found most notable about the video.

stip wrote:and the solo, and the spacey effects, and the outro, and the entire last double verse.

These are true things.

harmless wrote:

cutuphalfdead wrote:It seriously detracts from the song.

Well I think the same about MFC's chorus, so you know... I agree, but it doesn't break the deal just like other weaker choruses haven't. I don't think this band have a great batting average when it comes to choruses.

And habit and evacuation and Pilate and no way...

stip wrote:

harmless wrote:

cutuphalfdead wrote:It seriously detracts from the song.

Well I think the same about MFC's chorus, so you know... I agree, but it doesn't break the deal just like other weaker choruses haven't. I don't think this band have a great batting average when it comes to choruses.

And habit and evacuation and Pilate and no way...

STOP IT

stip wrote:

harmless wrote:

cutuphalfdead wrote:It seriously detracts from the song.

Well I think the same about MFC's chorus, so you know... I agree, but it doesn't break the deal just like other weaker choruses haven't. I don't think this band have a great batting average when it comes to choruses.

And habit and evacuation and Pilate and no way...

I'm not sure I'd agree with all of those examples, but yes, arguably.

The worst nosedive a PJ song has ever taken in the chorus was Supersonic. Lightning Bolt will never be the anti-climax that was. It's worse because I quite enjoy the 50s rock-n-roll style "great balls of fire" verses.

So, there's been a lot of discussion about choruses lately, and how PJ's are often fairly weak. I'm not agreeing or disagreeing in general or about one in particular, but I'm curious:

What Pearl Jam choruses do people think are good?

http://www.mojo4music.com/7181/pearl-ja ... ning-bolt/

Lightning Bolt the album is released on October 14th. Here’s an early taste of MOJO’s four-star review of the album by Stevie Chick.

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As the anthemic grungers enter their third decade, the tension between their fleshy ‘classic rock’ core and punk rock impulses grows only more pronounced. Recorded in two separate bursts, Pearl Jam’s tenth album veers between explosive rockers and dulcet ballads. Getaway and Mind Your Manners pick up the pared-back, garage-y hurtle of 2009’s Backspacer, albeit with added thrilling scree from lead guitarist Mike McCready. The softer tracks find the group negotiating their path to maturity with confidence; Sleeping By Myself clearly began life as one of Eddie Vedder’s ukulele ditties, and might turn off the gruffer, more cynical corner of the audience, but its aching charm is undeniable. Sent skyward by a classic McCready guitar solo and a sensitive, restrained vocal from Vedder, the piano-driven Sirens cleaves to just the right side of sentimental cliché – a tightrope Pearl Jam have profitably trodden throughout their career.
STEVIE CHICK

Does the ridiculousness of unrelenting thousand page dissection ever hits you guys once in a while? The ice-cold reality check that if we all used our time and talents for real problems, the world could be conquered?

Eh fuck that, I'm gonna go watch the EPK again.