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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Thu September 26, 2013 7:59 pm
by Iowaska_Experience
I think on lyrics alone (not looking at melody, vocal delivery, passion, etc.), I would rank the chorus of Corduroy pretty high based on the lyrical content and where Ed/the band were at at that time.
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Thu September 26, 2013 8:00 pm
by Lament
Tuolumne wrote:That said, their best chorus is Betterman.
Betterman is good, but just from the same album Last Exit and Corduroy are superior by my tastes.
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Thu September 26, 2013 8:01 pm
by Farmer John
I might get some flak for this, but one of my least favourite choruses is Dead Man. I like the rest of the song, though.
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Thu September 26, 2013 8:03 pm
by stupidmop
Tuolumne wrote:PJ's always been mostly about feeling for me. Technically, there's tons of other writers that achieve better chorusus, melodies, lyrics, whatever. But what's specialy about them is Eddie's vocal delivery and passion, and then the different combinations that occur and collaborations and the variety anmd depth that brings.
I also think when we're dissecting albums as they come out, their old stuff wouldn't have held up to this sort of criticism as well ("he's counting numbers in Animal, huh"?). That said, their best chorus is Betterman.
I really hate the counting on animal. The hand gestures that come with it too.
Love the rest though.
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Thu September 26, 2013 8:03 pm
by harmless
Iowaska_Experience wrote:I think on lyrics alone (not looking at melody, vocal delivery, passion, etc.), I would rank the chorus of Corduroy pretty high based on the lyrical content and where Ed/the band were at at that time.
Yes. And also yes. Corduroy is my favourite Pearl Jam song and not least because the lyrics are some of Ed's best.
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Thu September 26, 2013 8:04 pm
by evenslow
For being such a "difficult" record, Vitalogy does have their best choruses.
I'm a huge sucker for the Satan's Bed chorus. Even though they just repeat "already in love" the music underneath it is so weird and perfect for that song. An off-kilter classic.
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Thu September 26, 2013 8:04 pm
by harmless
Lament wrote:Tuolumne wrote:That said, their best chorus is Betterman.
Betterman is good, but just from the same album Last Exit and Corduroy are superior by my tastes.
Last Exit is another great chorus.
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Thu September 26, 2013 8:06 pm
by Lament
Porch, State of Love & Trust, Breath, Daughter, Last Exit, Corduroy, Betterman, I Got Shit, Present Tense, Sad, I Am Mine, Undone...
Those are the choruses that jump to mind when I think of ones that are spectacular on their own strengths, independent of every other part of the song.
Honestly, Even Flow belongs on here too, though it's been destroyed for me at this point. But the once or twice a year I unexpectedly hear the studio version on the radio or something I'm always taken aback by what a strong chorus is actually is.
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Thu September 26, 2013 8:09 pm
by harmless
Lament wrote:Porch, State of Love & Trust, Breath, Daughter, Last Exit, Corduroy, Betterman, I Got Shit, Present Tense, Sad, I Am Mine, Undone...
Those are the choruses that jump to mind when I think of ones that are spectacular on their own strengths, independent of every other part of the song.
Honestly, Even Flow belongs on here too, though it's been destroyed for me at this point. But the once or twice a year I unexpectedly hear the studio version on the radio or something I'm always taken aback by what a strong chorus is actually is.
Your posting skills are top notch.
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Thu September 26, 2013 8:09 pm
by Vindicator
I'd like to nominate Faithfull , Brain of J and Given To Fly as awesome chorus's as well.
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Thu September 26, 2013 8:10 pm
by Lament
harmless wrote:Lament wrote:Porch, State of Love & Trust, Breath, Daughter, Last Exit, Corduroy, Betterman, I Got Shit, Present Tense, Sad, I Am Mine, Undone...
Those are the choruses that jump to mind when I think of ones that are spectacular on their own strengths, independent of every other part of the song.
Honestly, Even Flow belongs on here too, though it's been destroyed for me at this point. But the once or twice a year I unexpectedly hear the studio version on the radio or something I'm always taken aback by what a strong chorus is actually is.
Your posting skills are top notch.
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Thu September 26, 2013 8:10 pm
by Mike
I nominate Cropduster's chorus.
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Thu September 26, 2013 8:11 pm
by Vindicator
Mike wrote:I nominate Cropduster's chorus.
Unless you are being sarcastic, but I love that song.
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Thu September 26, 2013 8:12 pm
by HardTI
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Thu September 26, 2013 8:13 pm
by harmless
Vindicator wrote:I'd like to nominate Faithfull , Brain of J and Given To Fly as awesome chorus's as well.
Agreed, though GTF can be compared to Lightning Bolt in that written down it's not that great:
He's.. flying
Whole
High.. wide, oh
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Thu September 26, 2013 8:13 pm
by Mike
Vindicator wrote:Mike wrote:I nominate Cropduster's chorus.
Unless you are being sarcastic, but I love that song.
No, I really love it. It's really well done and flows so beautifully from the first part of the chorus to the second part. (I was the fool because I thought -> I thought the world).
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Thu September 26, 2013 8:14 pm
by harmless
Vindicator wrote:Mike wrote:I nominate Cropduster's chorus.
Unless you are being sarcastic, but I love that song.
There's a lot of good choruses on Riot Act, actually. Love Boat Captain is a good one.
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Thu September 26, 2013 8:15 pm
by Vindicator
harmless wrote:Vindicator wrote:I'd like to nominate Faithfull , Brain of J and Given To Fly as awesome chorus's as well.
Agreed, though GTF can be compared to Lightning Bolt in that written down it's not that great:
He's.. flying
Whole
High.. wide, oh
I must say, I absolutely LOVE Lighting Bolt's chorus. I hated it live, but damn did it grow on me. It's my favorite part of the song, I love the riffs in the chorus too. It's not my favorite song, but I belt out "Lightning BOOOOOOLT" everytime.
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Thu September 26, 2013 8:15 pm
by Norah
harmless wrote:Vindicator wrote:I'd like to nominate Faithfull , Brain of J and Given To Fly as awesome chorus's as well.
Agreed, though GTF can be compared to Lightning Bolt in that written down it's not that great:
He's.. flying
Whole
High.. wide, oh
That's not the chorus...
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Thu September 26, 2013 8:16 pm
by Vindicator
Mike wrote:Vindicator wrote:Mike wrote:I nominate Cropduster's chorus.
Unless you are being sarcastic, but I love that song.
No, I really love it. It's really well done and flows so beautifully from the first part of the chorus to the second part. (I was the fool because I thought -> I thought the world).
Turns out the world thought meeeeee.
