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Re: The Supreme Court

Posted: Mon June 15, 2020 3:21 pm
by Green Habit
Meanwhile, while the Title VII cases are getting all the attention today, Thomas continues to express skepticism on qualified immunity, the terrible feature of law that's thankfully been getting a lot of scrutiny recently in the BLM protests. It's the last opinion on this list of orders:

https://www.supremecourt.gov/orders/cou ... r_f2bh.pdf

Re: The Supreme Court

Posted: Mon June 15, 2020 3:36 pm
by Green Habit
tragabigzanda wrote:Does this effectively block Trump's move on protections from last week? I know that's about health insurance, but don't have the time to dig into all the details right now.
I haven't dug into the details of that yet, either, but:

Re: The Supreme Court

Posted: Mon June 15, 2020 7:43 pm
by simple schoolboy
Green Habit, whats with the Court and dodging any and all cases regarding 2A? Is there any circuit split that might compell them to revisit the issue?

Re: The Supreme Court

Posted: Mon June 15, 2020 8:02 pm
by Green Habit
simple schoolboy wrote:Green Habit, whats with the Court and dodging any and all cases regarding 2A? Is there any circuit split that might compell them to revisit the issue?
Oh there's definitely a circuit split, but even that won't compel them, no matter what the tradition says. My guess is that Roberts has cold feet over DC v. Heller and doesn't want to push the issue further, with everyone else either wanting to overturn that case or expand on it. If so, we may be stuck in a 4-1-4 holding pattern with only regular angry dissents from denial of cert, as we say today, until there's a meaningful change in personnel.

Re: The Supreme Court

Posted: Tue June 16, 2020 2:49 am
by 96583UP
Congrats to the Gays and Neil Gorsuch for proving the haters wrong

Re: The Supreme Court

Posted: Tue June 16, 2020 2:03 pm
by elliseamos
96583UP wrote:Congrats to the Gays and Neil Gorsuch for proving the haters wrong
Truly shocked at he and Brett's performance.

Re: The Supreme Court

Posted: Tue June 16, 2020 2:05 pm
by tragabigzanda
FUCK ICE

Re: The Supreme Court

Posted: Tue June 16, 2020 2:20 pm
by B
96583UP wrote:Congrats to the Gays and Neil Gorsuch for proving the haters wrong
It's one decision. We're not planning Ginsberg's retirement party just yet.

Re: The Supreme Court

Posted: Tue June 16, 2020 4:28 pm
by elliseamos
tragabigzanda wrote:Brett? He was one of the dissenters, no?
I thought I read that they both voted in favor of LGBTQ protections.

Re: The Supreme Court

Posted: Tue June 16, 2020 6:05 pm
by 4/5
elliseamos wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:Brett? He was one of the dissenters, no?
I thought I read that they both voted in favor of LGBTQ protections.
Nah, Gorsuch and Roberts. Kavanaugh dissented.

Before this case Kavanaugh has mostly done whatever Roberts has done, so maybe that's what you're thinking of.

Re: The Supreme Court

Posted: Tue June 16, 2020 6:53 pm
by elliseamos
4/5 wrote:
elliseamos wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:Brett? He was one of the dissenters, no?
I thought I read that they both voted in favor of LGBTQ protections.
Nah, Gorsuch and Roberts. Kavanaugh dissented.

Before this case Kavanaugh has mostly done whatever Roberts has done, so maybe that's what you're thinking of.
:thumbsup:
elliseamos wrote:
96583UP wrote:Congrats to the Gays and Neil Gorsuch for proving the haters wrong
Truly shocked at he and Brett's his performance.

Re: The Supreme Court

Posted: Tue June 16, 2020 7:42 pm
by tragabigzanda
FUCK ICE

Re: The Supreme Court

Posted: Tue June 16, 2020 8:05 pm
by B
Is the plan to win Espinoza, and then bring a case from someone with no kids who wants a refund because THEIR family doesn't get any benefit from public schools?

Then ...

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Re: The Supreme Court

Posted: Thu June 18, 2020 2:17 pm
by 4/5
DACA lives.

Re: The Supreme Court

Posted: Thu June 18, 2020 2:18 pm
by McParadigm
Just saw that. Wow

Re: The Supreme Court

Posted: Thu June 18, 2020 2:23 pm
by Mickey
Reportedly 5-4 with Roberts in the majority. This was his reasoning:
We do not decide whether DACA or its rescission are sound policies," Roberts wrote. "We address only whether the agency complied with the procedural requirement that it provide a reasoned explanation for its action. Here the agency failed to consider the conspicuous issues of whether to retain forbearance and what if anything to do about the hardship to DACA recipients."

Re: The Supreme Court

Posted: Thu June 18, 2020 2:42 pm
by 4/5
Concurrences and dissents all over the place. Looking forward to GH's summary.

Looks like the controlling opinion is that Trump has the right to end DACA but the method of doing so was capricious and arbitrary and therefore unconstitutional.

Re: The Supreme Court

Posted: Thu June 18, 2020 2:42 pm
by Mickey
4/5 wrote:Concurrences and dissents all over the place. Looking forward to GH's summary.

Looks like the controlling opinion is that Trump has the right to end DACA but the method of doing so was capricious and arbitrary and therefore unconstitutional.
Yeah, those are the words I'm seeing too.

Re: The Supreme Court

Posted: Thu June 18, 2020 2:45 pm
by tragabigzanda
FUCK ICE

Re: The Supreme Court

Posted: Thu June 18, 2020 3:37 pm
by digster
I feel like it's possible there's no one who would prefer Biden win than John Roberts.