Lightning Bolt: the official album thread

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Rank Lightning Bolt

5 stars
1
1%
4 stars
4
5%
3 stars
29
37%
2 stars
30
38%
1 star
14
18%
 
Total votes: 78

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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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Mike wrote:If I had to compare something to the ocean and waves I would chose Cropduster. That song just flows, you know? Every part just seamlessly flows into the next one like...a wave.
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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harmless wrote:
warehouse wrote:
harmless wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
harmless wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
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Vindicator wrote:I'd like to nominate Faithfull , Brain of J and Given To Fly as awesome chorus's as well.
Agreed, though GTF can be compared to Lightning Bolt in that written down it's not that great:

He's.. flying
Whole
High.. wide, oh
That's not the chorus...
Which bit is the chorus???
maybe that's the end of the chorus fuck

but the chorus starts with a wave came crashing like a fist to the jaw
The "He still gives his love..." bit is an extension of the verse, to me, in the same way as that climactic loud verse is at the end of LB. But yeah, PJ really suck at a traditional song structure. Aaaaaaand that happens to be what keeps Sirens from being a typical schlock ballad. The structure is a mess.

The "A wave came crashing..." part is the same melody as the verse, it's just an octave higher. So I don't see it as a chorus.
wouldnt the part in question be the pre chorus?
To me it just sounds like more verse sung at a higher octave.
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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For all the hate Backspacer gets, I'd also like to say that I love the chorus in Amongst The Waves "I gotta save it noooww, better loud than too late" I sing along every time.


Hell, even Speed Of Sound has a nice chorus "But This night has been a long one, waiting on a sun, that never cooomes"

That part is beautiful.
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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Looks like I got everyone started on choruses and melodies :lol:

Lightning Bolt isn't one of their best choruses but that's not only because of the words he's singing. It's because the rest of the song is much more interesting melodically and there isn't much in the way Ed sings 'Lightning Bolt' which makes it sound that great. It's just an ok part of an otherwise great song.

I find some of their other simple choruses to be excellent, mostly because of how Ed delivers them. In Hiding is a really simple one but that high note on the Hi-ding part makes it special for me. Release Me is another great but simple one. Some other great ones have already been mentioned.

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Force of Nature...
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Vindicator wrote:For all the hate Backspacer gets, I'd also like to say that I love the chorus in Amongst The Waves "I gotta save it noooww, better loud than too late" I sing along every time.


Hell, even Speed Of Sound has a nice chorus "But This night has been a long one, waiting on a sun, that never cooomes"

That part is beautiful.
I think the chorus on SoS starts with "And yet I'm still holdin' tight....."
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Vindicator wrote:For all the hate Backspacer gets, I'd also like to say that I love the chorus in Amongst The Waves "I gotta save it noooww, better loud than too late" I sing along every time.


Hell, even Speed Of Sound has a nice chorus "But This night has been a long one, waiting on a sun, that never cooomes"

That part is beautiful.
:thumbsup: Yes, same here re Amongst the Waves chorus....never really understood why so many seemed to dislike that song but whatever
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Release_Me wrote:Looks like I got everyone started on choruses and melodies :lol:

Lightning Bolt isn't one of their best choruses but that's not only because of the words he's singing. It's because the rest of the song is much more interesting melodically and there isn't much in the way Ed sings 'Lightning Bolt' which makes it sound that great. It's just an ok part of an otherwise great song.

I find some of their other simple choruses to be excellent, mostly because of how Ed delivers them. In Hiding is a really simple one but that high note on the Hi-ding part makes it special for me. Release Me is another great but simple one. Some other great ones have already been mentioned.

Off to bed. It's 1:25 am here.
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I wonder if we'd like "In Hiding" if it had been written now.
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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Jaeti wrote:Force of Nature...

Yeah, I guess that's the problem with Backspacer for me. It's full of parts that I love, mixed with parts I don't, all within the same song. It's a frustrating album.
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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harmless wrote:
I wonder if we'd like "In Hiding" if it had been written now.
It'd be the best song they'd written in two or three records.
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Guys, we've gone, like, several pages saying almost only good things about Pearl Jam and their music. This thread suddenly feels like it's all written in Latin.
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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harmless wrote:
Release_Me wrote:Looks like I got everyone started on choruses and melodies :lol:

Lightning Bolt isn't one of their best choruses but that's not only because of the words he's singing. It's because the rest of the song is much more interesting melodically and there isn't much in the way Ed sings 'Lightning Bolt' which makes it sound that great. It's just an ok part of an otherwise great song.

I find some of their other simple choruses to be excellent, mostly because of how Ed delivers them. In Hiding is a really simple one but that high note on the Hi-ding part makes it special for me. Release Me is another great but simple one. Some other great ones have already been mentioned.

Off to bed. It's 1:25 am here.
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I wonder if we'd like "In Hiding" if it had been written now.
We'd have to. It's too good.
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digster wrote:
harmless wrote:
I wonder if we'd like "In Hiding" if it had been written now.
It'd be the best song they'd written in two or three records.
Some would think so, but others would think that it was ruined by Ed's hoarse voice in the chorus. He would've screamed that chorus S/T style if he'd written it now.
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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Jaeti wrote:Force of Nature...
i love songs that don't have consistent chorus lyrics.... if that made sense :?

but basically, like Force of Nature, where each "chorus" has different lyrics sung over it. I've always liked it when bands do that, but no other songs are coming to my mind at the moment that i can use as an example.
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Tass Man wrote:
Jaeti wrote:Force of Nature...
i love songs that don't have consistent chorus lyrics.... if that made sense :?

but basically, like Force of Nature, where each "chorus" has different lyrics sung over it. I've always liked it when bands do that, but no other songs are coming to my mind at the moment that i can use as an example.
Sirens!

Yeah I like it when choruses do that too.
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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Tass Man wrote:
Jaeti wrote:Force of Nature...
i love songs that don't have consistent chorus lyrics.... if that made sense :?

but basically, like Force of Nature, where each "chorus" has different lyrics sung over it. I've always liked it when bands do that, but no other songs are coming to my mind at the moment that i can use as an example.
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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harmless wrote:
Tass Man wrote:
Jaeti wrote:Force of Nature...
i love songs that don't have consistent chorus lyrics.... if that made sense :?

but basically, like Force of Nature, where each "chorus" has different lyrics sung over it. I've always liked it when bands do that, but no other songs are coming to my mind at the moment that i can use as an example.
Sirens!

Yeah I like it when choruses do that too.
Same. SOLAT is a good example, and I like how he sings the second one low and combines both at the end.
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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iceagecoming wrote:
harmless wrote:
Tass Man wrote:
Jaeti wrote:Force of Nature...
i love songs that don't have consistent chorus lyrics.... if that made sense :?

but basically, like Force of Nature, where each "chorus" has different lyrics sung over it. I've always liked it when bands do that, but no other songs are coming to my mind at the moment that i can use as an example.
Sirens!

Yeah I like it when choruses do that too.
Same. SOLAT is a good example, and I like how he sings the second one low and combines both at the end.
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