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Re: Election 2020

Posted: Sun January 19, 2020 3:10 am
by tragabigzanda
FUCK ICE

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Sun January 19, 2020 3:16 am
by BurtReynolds
The berg is in bloom

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Sun January 19, 2020 3:17 am
by tragabigzanda
FUCK ICE

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Sun January 19, 2020 3:23 am
by Jorge
tragabigzanda wrote:WaPo has a new “which candidate are you ?” quiz.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics ... s-with-me/

I got:

Bloomberg: 16
Biden: 13
Steyer:13
Klobuchar: 12
Buttigeg: 11
Warren: 10
Yang: 8
Sanders: 7
Gabbard: 6
Sanders 15
Warren 13
Steyer 9
Bloomberg 7
Klobuchar 7
Yang 7
Biden 6
Buttigieg 6
Gabbard 6

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Sun January 19, 2020 3:25 am
by McParadigm
I didn’t purposefully track, but caught at least six scenarios where a candidate’s actual proposals were misrepresented in favor of their intentional debate/interview misrepresentations. Specifically, moderate candidates like Biden and Buttigieg were credited with positions they have spoken favorably of but don’t actually support.

As always, this thing is shit and you should assume nothing about yourself or the candidates based on it.

Anyways:
Warren: 14
Steyer: 12
Sanders: 12
Buttigieg: 11
Klobuchar: 10
Yang: 9
Bloomberg: 8
Biden: 6
Gabbard: deport

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Sun January 19, 2020 3:30 am
by tragabigzanda
FUCK ICE

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Sun January 19, 2020 3:44 am
by BurtReynolds
tragabigzanda wrote:Burt do the quiz or are you afraid of the results?!?!
Who is most likely to dissolve the federal government and then resign?

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Sun January 19, 2020 3:58 am
by McParadigm
tragabigzanda wrote:If we can’t look to clickbait to bridge our political divides then what hope do we have
We’ll just focus on finding a candidate that wins over modera- Oh, that’s right. In spite of what the RM fantasy bubble says, actual indies are among the lowest information, unpredictable tools ever birthed.

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Sun January 19, 2020 3:58 am
by McParadigm
BurtReynolds wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:Burt do the quiz or are you afraid of the results?!?!
Who is most likely to dissolve the federal government and then resign?
Jill Stein

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Mon January 20, 2020 3:09 pm
by Rob
That quiz did yield me my personal top 3, though I prefer Bernie.

Warren: 16
Bernie: 14
Yang: 10
Steyer: 9
Buttigieg: 7
Klobuchar: 6
Gabbard: 6
Bloomberg: 4
Biden: 3

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Mon January 20, 2020 6:41 pm
by McParadigm
Promoting Republican impeachment defense spin to win the libs.

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Mon January 20, 2020 7:08 pm
by Rob
I read that op-ed and I don’t understand the reference to “impeachment defense.” Agree with it or not, seems to be about the arguments Trump will make against Biden in a general (while obviously attacking Biden on some of his past record).

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Mon January 20, 2020 9:20 pm
by Simple Torture
Simple Torture wrote:
96583UP wrote: Businessman Tom Steyer is standing between them during the back and forth. As Mr. Sanders walked away, Mr. Steyer went to talk to him and said: "I don't want to get in the middle. I just want to say hi Bernie."

"Yeah, good, OK," Mr. Sanders responded.
L-O-fucking-L
The beat goes on:

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Mon January 20, 2020 9:22 pm
by 96583UP
haha

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Mon January 20, 2020 9:46 pm
by McParadigm
McParadigm wrote:Promoting Republican impeachment defense spin to win the libs.
Let’s see how this is goi- ......oh

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Mon January 20, 2020 9:59 pm
by BurtReynolds
Rob wrote:I read that op-ed and I don’t understand the reference to “impeachment defense.” Agree with it or not, seems to be about the arguments Trump will make against Biden in a general (while obviously attacking Biden on some of his past record).
It's just spin, and when its coming from the likes of Paul Krugman and Jennifer Rubin, it won't damage Bernie in the slightest and is easily ignored.

They cry about a candidate actually fighting to win because their boring candidate is still ahead in the polls.

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Tue January 21, 2020 12:49 am
by BurtReynolds
Congratulations to future President "Other".

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Tue January 21, 2020 3:02 am
by 96583UP
NYT just endorsed Warren and the Glob

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/202 ... ement.html

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Tue January 21, 2020 2:53 pm
by Bi_3
hilldog's still got bite in this 'The Hollywood Reporter" interview:
THR: In the doc, you're brutally honest on Sanders: "He was in Congress for years. He had one senator support him. Nobody likes him, nobody wants to work with him, he got nothing done. He was a career politician. It's all just baloney and I feel so bad that people got sucked into it." That assessment still hold?

Hillary: Yes, it does.

THR: If he gets the nomination, will you endorse and campaign for him?

HIllary: I'm not going to go there yet. We're still in a very vigorous primary season. I will say, however, that it's not only him, it's the culture around him. It's his leadership team. It's his prominent supporters. It's his online Bernie Bros and their relentless attacks on lots of his competitors, particularly the women. And I really hope people are paying attention to that because it should be worrisome that he has permitted this culture — not only permitted, [he] seems to really be very much supporting it. And I don't think we want to go down that road again where you campaign by insult and attack and maybe you try to get some distance from it, but you either don't know what your campaign and supporters are doing or you're just giving them a wink and you want them to go after Kamala [Harris] or after Elizabeth [Warren]. I think that that's a pattern that people should take into account when they make their decisions.

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Tue January 21, 2020 3:02 pm
by Rob
Bi_3 wrote:hilldog's still got bite in this 'The Hollywood Reporter" interview:
THR: In the doc, you're brutally honest on Sanders: "He was in Congress for years. He had one senator support him. Nobody likes him, nobody wants to work with him, he got nothing done. He was a career politician. It's all just baloney and I feel so bad that people got sucked into it." That assessment still hold?

Hillary: Yes, it does.

THR: If he gets the nomination, will you endorse and campaign for him?

HIllary: I'm not going to go there yet. We're still in a very vigorous primary season. I will say, however, that it's not only him, it's the culture around him. It's his leadership team. It's his prominent supporters. It's his online Bernie Bros and their relentless attacks on lots of his competitors, particularly the women. And I really hope people are paying attention to that because it should be worrisome that he has permitted this culture — not only permitted, [he] seems to really be very much supporting it. And I don't think we want to go down that road again where you campaign by insult and attack and maybe you try to get some distance from it, but you either don't know what your campaign and supporters are doing or you're just giving them a wink and you want them to go after Kamala [Harris] or after Elizabeth [Warren]. I think that that's a pattern that people should take into account when they make their decisions.
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