Red Mosquito

PHATJ wrote:

verb_to_trust wrote:

PHATJ wrote:

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PHATJ wrote:

verb_to_trust wrote:I don't think you'll find many people on RM that are card carrying members of the Joe Biden fan club. I'll still crawl on broken glass to vote for him on Nov 3 though. It is astounding to me that anyone could see our country being ripped apart before our very eyes, check Trump's Twitter feed, see thing like "loot we shoot" and "vicious dogs and weapons", during the worst domestic crisis in our lifetime, and think this is the leader we need. Everything points to the opposite. He is petty, he is small, he is vindictive, he is selfish, he is racist and most of all he lacks any ability to lead us with grace and strength. At no point in the man's life has he ever shown the qualities necessary for this monumental task.

Your guy ain't it, bud

Says the bigot

Because I trolled you on a message board I'm a bigot? Look man, I wish you no ill will. I even remember PMing you after your heart attack because if there is anyone who understands what it's like trying to bounce back from an unexpected health event it's me. I just wish you could be better than this. The cruelty one would have to accept to fall in line behind a man like Donald Trump is just not something I can swallow. I will relentlessly shame it.

Because I’m a conservative I’m a racist? Look man, I don’t actually hate you either. And I have had many fun interactions with you in the nba thread long ago. And I appreciated talking to you (and many others here) and the support after my heart attack. But I feel exactly the same way about leftists politics as you do about Trump. I cannot in good conscious condone anything about their ideology or general attitude towards reality. I see them as destructive to the very fiber of a healthy society. So I will relentlessly shame it.

I don't even consider myself a political person. Since I live in Illinois I've never really even concerned myself much with the Presidential elections because I live in an auto blue state. It's just so glaringly obvious to me that Donald Trump threatens to bring us all down. It's right there in the light of day, for everyone to see. Sometimes the behaviors that have been normalized since 2016 can make people numb to it, but for anyone who really examine the destabilization that has taken place, it's there.

You're guy ain't it, bud

I just fundamentally disagree with you. Period.

PHATJ wrote:Joe Biden is a blatant racist. And Biden, Pelosi, and Schumer have had 40 years each to make things better for the very people that are outraged because things are terrible. Minnesota is top to bottom liberal democrats. Start placing blame where it belongs. If you can’t call a spade a spade, you are as bad as these racists. You are part of the problem. You are racist. That’s a fact. Own it.

Strat wrote:Isn’t Minnesota continually rated one of the top places to live in the country? Wellness, employment...

Strat wrote:Isn’t Minnesota continually rated one of the top places to live in the country? Wellness, employment...

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PHATJ wrote:Joe Biden is a blatant racist. And Biden, Pelosi, and Schumer have had 40 years each to make things better for the very people that are outraged because things are terrible. Minnesota is top to bottom liberal democrats. Start placing blame where it belongs. If you can’t call a spade a spade, you are as bad as these racists. You are part of the problem. You are racist. That’s a fact. Own it.

This really misses the point that this happens nationwide. Cops kill black men at 5 times the rate as any other race.

Where this most recent killing actually took place is irrelevant to the problem of overly aggressive police are killing black men with no justification and no accountability far, FAR to often in this country.

B wrote:Oh, I'm sorry. Who did George Floyd murder? Michael Brown? Eric Garner? Philandro Castile?

Is the policy that black people are convicted of more crimes, so I'm gonna shoot the fuck out of all black people and ask questions later?

If we can't train police to judge the threat (or lack thereof) that they are currently facing and act accordingly, then all we're doing is sending murders out into vulnerable communities.

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PHATJ wrote:Why are you guys so desperate to excuse such horrific behavior. Cities are burning to the ground. Civilians are losing their businesses and houses. This isn’t protesting, its mayhem. It’s incredibly dangerous for everyone that lives in these areas, which are primarily minority neighborhoods and businesses. The lengths you will go to defend horrific, criminal behavior, proves how morally bankrupt you are. You actually have zero care or love in your hearts for humanity, no matter the race. You are mentally inept and wicked in the heart and mind. Destruction, terrorism, and potentially lethal violence in the streets benefits no one, certainty not George Floyd. Now people who had difficult situations already will have extraordinarily difficult circumstances for the coming months, if not longer.

Why are YOU so desperate to excuse such horrific behavior?

What the hell are you talking about?

The behavior of your lord and savior, Donald Jesus Trump. Absolutely nothing he does is moral. He has no care or love in his heart for humanity and hates all races except white. And if some of those whites speak Spanish as a primary language, he hates them, too. He is mentally inept and wicked in the heart and mind. He only cares about himself. You see everything the man does and continue to support him and his bullshit, racist MAGA agenda. So why do you excuse such horrific behavior? What kind of issues could you possibly support of his that are moral or reflect the care or love in your heart for humanity?

Sorry it took awhile for my response, I was getting my kids to bed.

I fundamentally disagree with your basic premise. And factually speaking, I have no delusions that Trump is a great guy, or eloquent, or anything of the kind. He is far too blunt and rude for my personal taste far too often. But I have also seen great progress made in many areas that are important to me, and the people I know. His financial policies have greatly benefited the vast majority of people. Before Covid, the economy was better than it had ever been and people of EVERY race were benefiting. I generally agree with his foreign policy. He’s a strong supporter of Israel and American allies. I love that he has zero problem cutting ties with worthless organizations that suck millions and millions of American taxpayers dollars out of our country. He’s strongly pro-life. He’s pro religious freedom. He’s pro second amendment. He has appointed judges that I have some level of faith in. I condemn all racism. I am also not naive enough to believe only white people are racists. I see incredible harm happening from groups like Antifa, as well as white supremacists. Both groups are despicable, hateful, and racist. I oppose a welfare state. Etc., etc., etc. Basically, he isn’t a leftist in any way, and neither am I.

I have no hate in my heart for anyone based on race. I think white liberals are some of the most destructive people on the planet. I see a great majority of liberal cities and states crumbling under horrific policy and incompetence. This isn’t a race issue, it’s an ideological issue. White liberals are some of the least compassionate and most racist people in society. They label any black person that isn’t a democrat an “Uncle Tom”. They label everyone that doesn’t agree with them as racists, yet they are the ones that believe all blacks think alike and must fall into the categories they demand or they are somehow not really black. They push for and pass social policy that has effectively killed the black family unit. They minimize the importance of fathers and mock the traditional family. They cater to special interest groups and teach a victim mentality. They discourage free thought. They want to silence dissent and censor free speech.

The list of grievances I have with the left is extensive. Trump is very flawed, no doubt. But the left is hell bent on the destruction of constitutional rights that I would defend to the death, and so will he. And I appreciate that.

The left just hates him no matter what. And people like you, that genuinely liked me before you knew my politics, can’t handle the fact that people like me don’t buy into their Trump Derangement Syndrome. I’m the same person you thought was great two years ago. My political affiliation has never changed. You just can’t get over it.

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PHATJ wrote:Btw, as a point of reference, I went to high school in the neighborhood that has been destroyed by these riots. I spent time at some of these businesses. I literally have dozens of friends in the immediate area. My connection to this area dates back to my grandparents. They went to the same high school. My parents met as 10th graders in the same school. I’ve spent literally YEARS of my life in these very locations. My personal connection to this situation is significant. And I have a far greater understanding of these neighborhoods and the demographics than all of you combined. I know you will continue to dismiss my insights and personal knowledge because you hate Trump. Whatever. This is personal to me. There are friends and extended family that I currently have living amongst this chaos, and I trust their firsthand insight and experiences.

you don't have a greater understanding of the video I watched of George Floyd getting killed, his 'official' autopsy results, and the video of your white neighbor getting shot at by the police while on her own front porch...,

so get the fuck out of here with that snooty-ass bullshit!

it's systemic, which is why what you see happening is necessary.

"We tried taking a knee, but that didn't work." -Ice T

I have not defended a single thing you just listed. In this very thread I had a great moment of agreement with Mickey after he falsely accused me of supporting the police, which I don’t. I agree that George Floyd was murdered. I think all four cops involved should be sentenced to the longest possible period in prison. I question the validity of the “official” autopsy results, and no person sitting on their porch should ever be assaulted by police, and I have not ever said differently.

And you can go skullfuck yourself to death for saying my community being decimated is “necessary”.

check the aim of your aggression, bud. I'm not the one who kept THUGS like this^^^ on the force after multiple offenses. That was YOUR community's police department, and the autopsy results came from YOUR community's government officials, and it was YOUR state guard who fired on civilians who were on their own porch. I said it was necessary, I didn't say I liked it, I fucking HATE that it has to come to this, but Trump supporters such as yourself are part of the reason WHY this is happening. Your past posts which were re-posted proves that you're just another guy who rationalizes, deflects and looks like an absolute idiot, just like your orange hero in the white house.

Moron. Literally everyone in charge that can be blamed is a Democrat. Every single person in power that has an opportunity to stop this cop is a liberal. EVERY SINGLE ONE. Look at every position of power in the state of MN and the city of Minneapolis, they are all leftists. Even the murdering cop posted about his hate of Trump on social media. You could not possibly be more wrong or misguided.

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PHATJ wrote:Joe Biden is a blatant racist. And Biden, Pelosi, and Schumer have had 40 years each to make things better for the very people that are outraged because things are terrible. Minnesota is top to bottom liberal democrats. Start placing blame where it belongs. If you can’t call a spade a spade, you are as bad as these racists. You are part of the problem. You are racist. That’s a fact. Own it.

This really misses the point that this happens nationwide. Cops kill black men at 5 times the rate as any other race.

Where this most recent killing actually took place is irrelevant to the problem of overly aggressive police are killing black men with no justification and no accountability far, FAR to often in this country.

Strat wrote:Wait did phatj just say that Chauvin was arrested because of trump?

Holy fuck I give up.

Seacrest out.