All-Time Franchise Baseball Tournament: RED SOX WIN IT ALL!

[@SkitchP]

Would it be so hard to throw simmons a start?

[@SkitchP]

You're comfortable for a playoff spot, would it kill you to get nettles in?

[Lament]

I've read about this many times, but I had no idea footage existed. That's great.

Cash is definitely in the thick of the MOP mix.

Cleveland Shoeless Joe might win the batting title. Is he ahead of Hornsby now?


So who is definitely in the mix for MOP for position players?

Cash, Hornsby, Yaz, Cleveland Shoeless Joe, Sosa, Appling, Bonds...those have got to be the main candidates (that we know of).

For pitchers...Boston Pedro. Is he head and shoulders above everyone else right now? Tiant is lurking, but he was out of the rotation for a while.

Would it be so hard to throw simmons a start?

I'm clinging to dear life trying to get a playoff spot. I'd have to sit either Shoeless Joe (.344/.399/.468), Albert Belle (.308/.380/.484), or Johnny Mostil (.360/.476/.419) to get Al Simmons in. If I fall out of contention, he'll get some starts. But I can't risk him while I'm still alive.

[Lament]

Day twenty-three matchups...

Tigers - Blue Jays
at Detroit: Verlander (R) vs. Stieb (R), at Toronto: Lolich (L) vs. Halladay (R)

Rangers - Expos
at Texas: Ryan (R) vs. D. Martinez (R), at Montreal: Darvish (R) vs. Vazquez (R)

White Sox - Red Sox
at Chicago: Smith (R) vs. Clemens (R), at Boston: Scott (R) vs. Young (R)

Reds - Mariners
at Cincinnati: Rhines (R) vs. Fleming (L), at Seattle: Luque (R) vs. Iwakuma (R)

Royals - Indians
at Kansas City: Appier (R) vs. Gregg (R), at Cleveland: Cone (R) vs. Tiant (L)

Cubs - Pirates
at Chicago: Alexander (R) vs. Blass (R), at Pittsburgh: Jenkins (R) vs. Veale (R)

Yankees - Astros
at New York: Gomez (R) vs. Ryan (R), at Houston: Chandler (R) vs. Scott (R)

Orioles - Cardinals
at Baltimore: Cuellar (L) vs. Gibson (R), at St. Louis: McNally (L) vs. Dean (R)

[Lament]

I drew up a few scenarios where I used starters on short rest, and this was one of them, so my starters are subject to change.

[Lament]

If you force yourself to watch the first three seconds of this video and then mute it and wait for it to end in between reading the results of each game, it gives this season a really authentic feel.

[Lament]

Day twenty-three has been run.

[philpritchard]

Some Top Tens (with TOR, CWS, PIT, CIN, DET, MTL, BOS reporting). Let me know if you want to see any other leaderboards. Hopefully we get stats from everyone else who's been keeping track.

OPS
1 YAZ BOS 1.090
2 BONDS PIT 1.061
3 WILLIAMS BOS 1.050
4 CASH DET 1.041
5 APPLING CWS 1.027
6 OLERUD TOR .961
7 VIDRO MTL .920
8 MORGAN CIN .898
9 RAMIREZ BOS .891
10 KLUSZEWSKI CIN .875
*Votto and Heilman are both about 10 PA's short, but they would both be on the list if they qualified.

AVG
1 APPLING CWS .411
2 YAZ BOS .394
3 VIDRO MTL .389
4 CASH DET .371
5 WILLIAMS BOS .362
6 JACKSON CWS .344
7 RAMIREZ BOS .339
8 COBB DET .335
8 CLEMENTE PIT .335
8 RAINES MTL .335

HR
1 KLUSZEWSKI CIN 12
2 BONDS PIT 11
3 YAZ BOS 9
4 DAWSON MTL 8
4 STARGELL PIT 8
6 MORGAN CIN 7
6 BELLE CWS 7
6 KALINE DET 7
6 CARTER MTL 7
6 HERMAN CIN 7

RBI
1 BELLE CWS 48
2 JACKSON CWS 43
3 YAZ BOS 42
4 ROSE CIN 40
5 BONDS PIT 39
6 OLERUD TOR 38
6 CLEMENTE PIT 38
8 WAGNER PIT 37
9 KALINE DET 36
10 LOLLAR CWS 35

SB
1 COBB DET 22
2 RAINES MTL 18
3 MORGAN CIN 13
4 FERNANDEZ TOR 11
4 ALOMAR TOR 11
6 MOSEBY TOR 8
6 LARKIN CIN 8
8 ELLSBURY BOS 6
9 MOSTIL CWS 5
10 KALINE DET 4
10 PINSON CIN 4
* No SB info for PIT

[Norah]

Want to make separate OBP and SLG lists too?

[@SkitchP]

10 KLUSZEWSKI CIN .875
*Votto and Heilman are both about 10 PA's short, but they would both be on the list if they qualified.

*sits votto and Heilman in order to keep Big Klu in the Top 10.*

[EJ]

Would like to see: Hits, Total Bases, ERA (for starters, min. innings pitched, I guess?), Strikeouts

[philpritchard]

Want to make separate OBP and SLG lists too?

OBP
1 WILLIAMS BOS .507
2 APPLING CWS .505
3 YAZ BOS .503
4 CASH DET .477
5 BONDS PIT .440
6 VIDRO MTL .431
7 MORGAN CIN .424
8 OLERUD TOR .420
9 BOGGS BOS .419
10 RAINES MTL .406

SLG
1 BONDS PIT .621
2 YAZ BOS .588
3 CASH DET .565
4 WILLIAMS BOS .543
5 OLERUD TOR .542
6 KLUSZEWSKI CIN .542
7 DAWSON MTL .525
8 APPLING CWS .522
9 GALARRAGA MTL .508
10 RAMIREZ BOS .492

Hits
1 APPLING CWS 74
2 VIDRO MTL 70
3 GALARRAGA MTL 66
4 RAINES MTL 65
5 RAMIREZ BOS 64
6 JACKSON CWS 64
7 YAZ BOS 63
8 WAGNER PIT 63
9 CLEMENTE PIT 62
10 KALINE DET 59

[@SkitchP]

I've read about this many times, but I had no idea footage existed. That's great.

It looks like the ump is losing it as he's making him get rid of it.

[@SkitchP]

someone go wake up lament

[philpritchard]

And some pitching stats:

ERA (min. 44 IP)
1 MARTINEZ BOS 2.76
2 VEALE PIT 2.86
3 CICOTTE CWS 3.08
4 MARTINEZ MTL 3.40
5 YOUNG BOS 3.50
6 SMITH CIN 3.89
7 LUQUE CIN 3.89
8 WALSH CWS 4.03
9 CLEMENS BOS 4.18
10 D MARTINEZ MTL 4.38

WHIP
1 MARTINEZ BOS 0.853
2 D MARTINEZ MTL 1.227
3 CICOTTE CWS 1.228
4 MARTINEZ MTL 1.248
5 CLEMENS BOS 1.309
6 CANDELARIA PIT 1.319
7 HALLADAY TOR 1.328
8 WALSH CWS 1.354
9 VEALE PIT 1.372
10 LUQUE CIN 1.423

SO
1 MARTINEZ MTL 93
2 MARTINEZ BOS 83
3 CLEMENS TOR 78
4 HALLADAY TOR 64
5 CICOTTE CWS 61
6 VAZQUEZ MTL 61
7 NEWHOUSER DET 60
8 ROGERS MTL 60
9 VEALE PIT 58
10 STIEB TOR 57

Wins
1 MARTINEZ BOS 7
1 CICOTTE CWS 7
1 SMITH CIN 7
4 MARTINEZ MTL 6
5 CLEMENS TOR 5
5 HALLADAY TOR 5
5 ROGERS MTL 5
5 WALSH CWS 5
5 LUQUE CIN 5
5 GROVE BOS 5

Saves
1 PAPELBON BOS 13
1 RYAN TOR 13
3 WETTELAND MTL 11
4 CHAPMAN CIN 8
5 FISHER CWS 7
5 TEKULVE PIT 7
7 HILLER DET 6
8 WILHELM CWS 2
8 OKAJIMA BOS 2
10 GUZMAN TOR 1
10 LEE BOS 1

[Lament]

Tigers - Blue Jays

Game 1 : http://www.whatifsports.com/slb/Boxscor ... pbp=0&tf=0
Game 2 : http://www.whatifsports.com/slb/Boxscor ... pbp=0&tf=0

Spoiler: show

Tigers 5, Blue Jays (10 innings)
W - Zumaya, L - Ward
HR - Bell 2, Cash, Greenberg

Blue Jays 10, Tigers 6
W - Halladay, L - Lolich
HR - Cabrera, Martinez

Rangers - Expos

Game 1 : http://www.whatifsports.com/slb/Boxscor ... pbp=0&tf=0
Game 2 : http://www.whatifsports.com/slb/Boxscor ... pbp=0&tf=0

Spoiler: show

Expos 7, Rangers 6
W - D. Martinez, L - Ryan, S - Wetteland
HR - Brooks, Franco

Expos 8, Rangers 2
W - Vazquez, L - Darvish
HR - Rodriguez, Clark, Galarraga, Guerrero

White Sox - Red Sox

Game 1 : http://www.whatifsports.com/slb/Boxscor ... pbp=0&tf=0
Game 2 : http://www.whatifsports.com/slb/Boxscor ... pbp=0&tf=0

Spoiler: show

Red Sox 6, White Sox 3
W - Clemens, L - Smith, S - Papelbon
HR - Williams

White Sox 11, Red Sox 4
W - Scott, L - Young

Reds - Mariners

Game 1 : http://www.whatifsports.com/slb/Boxscor ... pbp=0&tf=0
Game 2 : http://www.whatifsports.com/slb/Boxscor ... pbp=0&tf=0

Spoiler: show

Mariners 8, Reds 5
W - Fleming, L - Rhines
HR - Wilson, Foster

Reds 1, Mariners 0
W - Luque, L - Iwakuma
HR - Herman

Royals - Indians

Game 1 : http://www.whatifsports.com/slb/Boxscor ... pbp=0&tf=0
Game 2 : http://www.whatifsports.com/slb/Boxscor ... pbp=0&tf=0

Spoiler: show

Indians 5, Royals 4
W - Gregg, L - Gordon, S - Mesa

Royals 7, Indians 0
W - Cone, L - Tiant
HR - White 2, McRae

Cubs - Pirates

Game 1 : http://www.whatifsports.com/slb/Boxscor ... pbp=0&tf=0
Game 2 : http://www.whatifsports.com/slb/Boxscor ... pbp=0&tf=0

Spoiler: show

Pirates 16, Cubs 11
W - Gossage, L - Alexander, S - Tekulve
HR - Clemente 2, Kendall, Banks 2, Santo

Pirates 12, Cubs 11
W - Veale, L - Jenkins, S - Tekulve
HR - Sandberg, Hartnett, Bonds, Kiner

Yankees - Astros

Game 1 : http://www.whatifsports.com/slb/Boxscor ... pbp=0&tf=0
Game 2 : http://www.whatifsports.com/slb/Boxscor ... pbp=0&tf=0

Spoiler: show

Yankees 7, Astros 5 (13 innings)
W - Gossage, L - Sambito
HR - Mantle 2

Yankees 6, Astros 3
W - Chandler, L - Scott, S - Lyle

Orioles - Cardinals

Game 1 : http://www.whatifsports.com/slb/Boxscor ... pbp=0&tf=0
Game 2 : http://www.whatifsports.com/slb/Boxscor ... pbp=0&tf=0

Spoiler: show

Cardinals 7, Orioles 2
W - Gibson, L - Cuellar
HR - Medwick 3

Orioles 4, Cardinals 0
W - McNally, L - Dean

standings

Spoiler: show

Red Sox 30-16
Indians 30-16
Tigers 25-21
Yankees 25-21
Royals 25-21
White Sox 24-22
Cardinals 24-22
Pirates 23-23
Cubs 23-23
Reds 22-24
Blue Jays 22-24
Expos 22-24
Rangers 21-25
Astros 19-27
Orioles 18-28
Mariners 13-33

[BigRedLedbetter]

Well my Rangers are done.

The Royals still have a shot. I need to tinker with my lineups soon.

[Lament]

I can't decide which surprises me more, that the Rangers have just completely fallen apart or that the Royals refuse to.

[Lament]

Also, both Canadian teams are only two games out of the last playoff spot.

[philpritchard]

BJ Ryan sure picked a terrible time to have his first meltdown. A sweep of the Tigers would have been huge.