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Re: Live Long and Prosper; the Trek Thread

Posted: Wed September 21, 2016 11:13 pm
by LoathedVermin72
Oh, I like him a lot as a character. And De Lancie is great. But if I were on the Enterprise crew, I would fucking hate even hearing the shithead's name.

Re: Live Long and Prosper; the Trek Thread

Posted: Thu September 22, 2016 1:51 am
by bada
I guess you wouldn't want to be a Merry Man.

Re: Live Long and Prosper; the Trek Thread

Posted: Thu September 22, 2016 2:06 am
by McParadigm
durdencommatyler wrote:
bada wrote:I feel like the crew of the Enterprise was overly icy to Q. Even when it was clear he changed they always acted like he was the worst. Their reactions were so over the top.
I don't know, man. Given that first impression, I get it. That kinda shit is hard to overcome, even for humans in Roddenberry's utopian view of humanity.
Also all the Borg stuff happened because he wanted to make a fucking point.

Re: Live Long and Prosper; the Trek Thread

Posted: Thu September 22, 2016 2:19 am
by bada
McParadigm wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:
bada wrote:I feel like the crew of the Enterprise was overly icy to Q. Even when it was clear he changed they always acted like he was the worst. Their reactions were so over the top.
I don't know, man. Given that first impression, I get it. That kinda shit is hard to overcome, even for humans in Roddenberry's utopian view of humanity.
Also all the Borg stuff happened because he wanted to make a fucking point.
There is a school of thought that he did that to give humanity a chance to get prepared for the Borg since they were already aware of the Federation. Kill me.

Re: Live Long and Prosper; the Trek Thread

Posted: Thu September 22, 2016 4:17 am
by BurtReynolds
This guy popped up as an alien the yesterday. Same character.

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Re: Live Long and Prosper; the Trek Thread

Posted: Thu September 22, 2016 7:49 pm
by epilogue
LoathedVermin72 wrote:Fuck Q. If anything, they went way easy on him.
Fucking Jordan! :luv:

Re: Live Long and Prosper; the Trek Thread

Posted: Thu September 22, 2016 7:51 pm
by epilogue
McParadigm wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:
bada wrote:I feel like the crew of the Enterprise was overly icy to Q. Even when it was clear he changed they always acted like he was the worst. Their reactions were so over the top.
I don't know, man. Given that first impression, I get it. That kinda shit is hard to overcome, even for humans in Roddenberry's utopian view of humanity.
Also all the Borg stuff happened because he wanted to make a fucking point.
aw huh

Re: Live Long and Prosper; the Trek Thread

Posted: Thu September 22, 2016 8:36 pm
by wease
bada wrote:
McParadigm wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:
bada wrote:I feel like the crew of the Enterprise was overly icy to Q. Even when it was clear he changed they always acted like he was the worst. Their reactions were so over the top.
I don't know, man. Given that first impression, I get it. That kinda shit is hard to overcome, even for humans in Roddenberry's utopian view of humanity.
Also all the Borg stuff happened because he wanted to make a fucking point.
There is a school of thought that he did that to give humanity a chance to get prepared for the Borg since they were already aware of the Federation. Kill me.
Didn't he tell Picard that exact thing?!?!?

Re: Live Long and Prosper; the Trek Thread

Posted: Thu September 22, 2016 8:37 pm
by wease
LoathedVermin72 wrote:Fuck Q. If anything, they went way easy on him.
Agreed.

LoathedVermin72 wrote:Oh, I like him a lot as a character. And De Lancie is great. But if I were on the Enterprise crew, I would fucking hate even hearing the shithead's name.
Seconded.

Re: Live Long and Prosper; the Trek Thread

Posted: Thu September 22, 2016 10:05 pm
by bada
wease wrote:
bada wrote:
McParadigm wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:
bada wrote:I feel like the crew of the Enterprise was overly icy to Q. Even when it was clear he changed they always acted like he was the worst. Their reactions were so over the top.
I don't know, man. Given that first impression, I get it. That kinda shit is hard to overcome, even for humans in Roddenberry's utopian view of humanity.
Also all the Borg stuff happened because he wanted to make a fucking point.
There is a school of thought that he did that to give humanity a chance to get prepared for the Borg since they were already aware of the Federation. Kill me.
Didn't he tell Picard that exact thing?!?!?
The idea that the Borg were already aware of humanity came later. Like McP said Q was trying to make a point but I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt that it was part of a grander more benevolent scheme.

Re: Live Long and Prosper; the Trek Thread

Posted: Thu September 22, 2016 10:22 pm
by BurtReynolds
The Federation arrogantly believed it could use reason and understanding to bring peace to the galaxy. Q showed them that that universe is an uncaring, brutal place where only superior firepower ensures survival.

Q is a hero.

Re: Live Long and Prosper; the Trek Thread

Posted: Thu September 22, 2016 10:47 pm
by wease
bada wrote:
wease wrote:
bada wrote:
McParadigm wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:
bada wrote:I feel like the crew of the Enterprise was overly icy to Q. Even when it was clear he changed they always acted like he was the worst. Their reactions were so over the top.
I don't know, man. Given that first impression, I get it. That kinda shit is hard to overcome, even for humans in Roddenberry's utopian view of humanity.
Also all the Borg stuff happened because he wanted to make a fucking point.
There is a school of thought that he did that to give humanity a chance to get prepared for the Borg since they were already aware of the Federation. Kill me.
Didn't he tell Picard that exact thing?!?!?
The idea that the Borg were already aware of humanity came later. Like McP said Q was trying to make a point but I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt that it was part of a grander more benevolent scheme.
Q started out almost from the beginning telling Picard "you don't know what's out there. " Then he sent the Enterprise to the Borg and made them aware of humans and he told Picard "now they're aware of you, so they'll be coming for you. Get ready." So it looks to me like he wanted humanity to do something to ready themselves for the Borg.

Re: Live Long and Prosper; the Trek Thread

Posted: Fri September 23, 2016 1:58 am
by bada
I don't have an encyclopedic knowledge of Star Trek but I'm pretty sure in subsequent episodes and series that it turned out the Borg were aware of humans prior to the Q Who. Call it a recon if you will. I'm not even sure if we are agreeing or disagreeing on this. I guess what I was going for was I didn't think Q deserved all the scowls. Even if he did maybe crack a smile when he dresses your captain as Robin Hood.

Re: Live Long and Prosper; the Trek Thread

Posted: Fri September 23, 2016 1:09 pm
by wease
We as viewers can get the humor, but if we were on that ship and he comes along doing all the bullshit he does, it's not hard to see why they didn't like him very much.

Re: Live Long and Prosper; the Trek Thread

Posted: Thu September 29, 2016 8:40 am
by BurtReynolds
oh God, Troi's mom is on DS9 too? kill me.

Re: Live Long and Prosper; the Trek Thread

Posted: Thu September 29, 2016 12:50 pm
by wease
BurtReynolds wrote:oh God, Troi's mom is on DS9 too? kill me.
Is it the character or the actress you don't like?

Re: Live Long and Prosper; the Trek Thread

Posted: Thu September 29, 2016 1:58 pm
by EJ
BurtReynolds wrote:oh God, Troi's mom is on DS9 too? kill me.
Heh, well being Gene Roddenberry's wife will get you places in all things Trek. She's the voice of all the ships computers too.

Re: Live Long and Prosper; the Trek Thread

Posted: Thu September 29, 2016 7:31 pm
by BurtReynolds
wease wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:oh God, Troi's mom is on DS9 too? kill me.
Is it the character or the actress you don't like?
Most obnoxious character ever. And she's paired with Odo, who kinda sucks too. But I guess she hides him in her vagina at one point, so that was kinda neat.

Re: Live Long and Prosper; the Trek Thread

Posted: Thu September 29, 2016 7:53 pm
by LoathedVermin72
I love Odo

Re: Live Long and Prosper; the Trek Thread

Posted: Thu September 29, 2016 7:54 pm
by BurtReynolds
LoathedVermin72 wrote:I love Odo
I never doubted that.