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Re: Nine Inch Nails | Hesitation Marks [September 2013]
Posted: Tue August 27, 2013 5:26 pm
by j's brain
Pitchfork gave The Fragile a 2.0. LOL.
http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/5799-the-fragile/
It's my favorite NIN album!
Re: Nine Inch Nails | Hesitation Marks [September 2013]
Posted: Tue August 27, 2013 5:31 pm
by Bob Loblaw
I felt underwhelmed after one listen. I need to listen to it many more times before I make up my mind for sure, though.
Re: Nine Inch Nails | Hesitation Marks [September 2013]
Posted: Tue August 27, 2013 5:47 pm
by VinylGuy
Pitchfork.

Re: Nine Inch Nails | Hesitation Marks [September 2013]
Posted: Tue August 27, 2013 6:19 pm
by Tyler Durden
Does anyone know what song(s) Lindsey Buckingham plays on?
Re: Nine Inch Nails | Hesitation Marks [September 2013]
Posted: Tue August 27, 2013 10:56 pm
by verb_to_trust
harmless wrote:It is. I'm enjoying All Time Low more the second time around. That was my first WTF moment. I don't really love it when NIN goes hiphop.
All Time Low is so much fun. The only track that doesn't belong is Everything. I give the album 8/10. Thoroughly enjoyed it.
Re: Nine Inch Nails | Hesitation Marks [September 2013]
Posted: Tue August 27, 2013 11:03 pm
by harmless
verb_to_trust wrote:harmless wrote:It is. I'm enjoying All Time Low more the second time around. That was my first WTF moment. I don't really love it when NIN goes hiphop.
All Time Low is so much fun. The only track that doesn't belong is Everything. I give the album 8/10. Thoroughly enjoyed it.
I really like Everything, but maybe it should've been a novelty bonus / secret track.
Re: Nine Inch Nails | Hesitation Marks [September 2013]
Posted: Tue August 27, 2013 11:18 pm
by verb_to_trust
harmless wrote:verb_to_trust wrote:harmless wrote:It is. I'm enjoying All Time Low more the second time around. That was my first WTF moment. I don't really love it when NIN goes hiphop.
All Time Low is so much fun. The only track that doesn't belong is Everything. I give the album 8/10. Thoroughly enjoyed it.
I really like Everything, but maybe it should've been a novelty bonus / secret track.
It would have totally worked as a bonus track. Better yet, the new track on a greatest hits disc.
Re: Nine Inch Nails | Hesitation Marks [September 2013]
Posted: Wed August 28, 2013 12:31 pm
by lowlight79
Various Methods of Escape

I haven't finished my initial listen yet. But I will give a rating soon.
Re: Nine Inch Nails | Hesitation Marks [September 2013]
Posted: Wed August 28, 2013 12:39 pm
by Mike
Pitchfork were even more edgy in their earlier days than they are now. They also did this.
http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/8104-lateralus/ Both by Brent DiCrescenzo.
Edit: Oh, and this
http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/511 ... -the-mute/
Re: Nine Inch Nails | Hesitation Marks [September 2013]
Posted: Wed August 28, 2013 6:19 pm
by zeb
http://nineinchnails.tumblr.com/post/59 ... -different
Hesitation Marks was mastered in two different ways - the standard, “loud” mastering (which is what you’ll find on the CD, on iTunes, and everywhere else), and also an alternate “audiophile” mastering, which we’re offering as a free download option for anyone who purchases the album through nin.com. For the majority of people, the standard version will be preferable and differences will be difficult to detect. Audiophiles with high-end equipment and an understanding of the mastering process might prefer the alternate version.
Alan Moulder, who mixed the album, offers a more detailed explanation:
When we were mixing Hesitation Marks we decided to treat the mastering process in a slightly different way to the usual. Since we had tried to treat every other aspect of making this record differently to how we were used to, it seemed to make sense. We were mixing as we went along with the production of each song rather than at the end, so we thought that once we had a song pretty close we would send it off to Tom Baker, our long time serving mastering engineer, to give it some mastering treatment. Normally you wait until the record is finished being recorded and mixed, then take all the mixes to mastering. But we thought doing it again, as we went along, might make us push the process further and spend more time on mastering rather than rush through it at the end. Whilst doing this we became aware of how much low bass information there was on the record. Since that can define how loud of a level the mastering can be, we were faced with a dilemma: do we keep the bass and and have a significantly lower level record, or do we sacrifice the bass for a more competitive level of volume? The biggest issue in mastering these days tends to be how loud can you make your record. It is a fact that when listening back-to-back, loud records will come across more impressively, although in the long run what you sacrifice for that level can be quality and fidelity. So after much discussion we decided to go with two versions. On the main release Tom did exceptional work to maintain the integrity of our mixes and reproduce the low end as much as possible and still get a decent level, although it’s still nowhere as loud as a lot of modern records. The Audiophile Mastered Version is more true to how the mixes sounded to us in the studio when we were working on the songs. Have a listen, turn up the volume and enjoy the experience!
Mastering Engineer Tom Baker adds:
I believe it was Trent’s idea to master the album two different ways, and to my knowledge it has never been done before.
The standard version is “loud” and more aggressive and has more of a bite or edge to the sound with a tighter low end.
The Audiophile Mastered Version highlights the mixes as they are without compromising the dynamics and low end, and not being concerned about how “loud” the album would be. The goal was to simply allow the mixes to retain the spatial relationship between instruments and the robust, grandiose sound.
NOTE: The standard mastered version is in no way inferior to the Audiophile Version - we wouldn’t release something inferior as the default. And vinyl purists rest assured, the vinyl edition was mastered to sound the very best for that format. The Audiophile Version is merely an alternate take on the mastering, which some people will appreciate. It’s meant to give a slightly different experience, not denigrate the standard version. Listen to each and come to your own conclusions.
If you ordered any format of Hesitation Marks from nin.com, you’ll be able to download one or both mastering versions, in whichever formats you prefer (MP3, FLAC, Apple Lossless, and WAV), beginning September 3rd.
Re: Nine Inch Nails | Hesitation Marks [September 2013]
Posted: Wed August 28, 2013 6:27 pm
by lowlight79
The version on what.cd seems to have a low volume, but that came from the CD.
Re: Nine Inch Nails | Hesitation Marks [September 2013]
Posted: Wed August 28, 2013 7:54 pm
by zeb
Really digging:
Various Methods Of Escape
I Would For You
Everything
All Time Low
Re: Nine Inch Nails | Hesitation Marks [September 2013]
Posted: Thu August 29, 2013 12:09 am
by j's brain
Wow - that Lateralus review is just ridiculous. Someone should seriously be fired over that. I remember a Weezer album that got a 0.5 or something a while back - the one with Beverly Hills on it. I do think that is a horrible record overall but there were a few decent tracks.
Re: Nine Inch Nails | Hesitation Marks [September 2013]
Posted: Thu August 29, 2013 2:31 pm
by lowlight79
My listen is finish. I give this album 8/10. It's fresh listen, with the first half being a slow burn and the 2nd half just killing it.
Favs
A copy of A
Various Methods of Escape
Satellite - This song sounds like I should be in a strip club with asses bouncing behind me while listening to it
All Time Low
Running
I would for you
Everything isn't a bad track, but it doesn't fit well, I am guessing this is the track he made for the greatest hits. Overall, I feel as if the album reflects a more happier Reznor then the previous ones. He even seems at piece with god to an extent.
Re: Nine Inch Nails | Hesitation Marks
Posted: Fri August 30, 2013 4:35 am
by psychobain
Year Zero with some of With Teeth and a little bit of The Fragile
Re: Nine Inch Nails | Hesitation Marks [September 2013]
Posted: Fri August 30, 2013 4:40 am
by tattooedeverything
Tyler Durden wrote:Does anyone know what song(s) Lindsey Buckingham plays on?
"Copy Of A", "In Two" and "While I'm Still Here".
Re: Nine Inch Nails | Hesitation Marks
Posted: Fri August 30, 2013 6:30 am
by zeb
psychobain wrote:Year Zero with some of With Teeth and a little bit of The Fragile
Accurate.
Re: Nine Inch Nails | Hesitation Marks
Posted: Fri August 30, 2013 2:16 pm
by Bob Loblaw
This is growing on me.
Re: Nine Inch Nails | Hesitation Marks
Posted: Fri August 30, 2013 9:06 pm
by Jorge
“I know that what we’re doing flies in the face of the Kickstarter Amanda-Palmer-Start-a-Revolution thing, which is fine for her, but I’m not super-comfortable with the idea of Ziggy Stardust shaking his cup for scraps. I’m not saying offering things for free or pay-what-you-can is wrong. I’m saying my personal feeling is that my album’s not a dime. It’s not a buck. I made it as well as I could, and it costs 10 bucks, or go fuck yourself.”
SPIN Interview:
http://www.spin.com/featured/trent-rezn ... mber-2013/
Re: Nine Inch Nails | Hesitation Marks
Posted: Fri August 30, 2013 9:22 pm
by VinylGuy
I still think the first half is stronger and Everything is a pretty cool song.
Pino is the bass player for the whole album?