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Re: Movie: Matrix Resurrections
Posted: Fri December 24, 2021 4:26 am
by Mecca
VinylGuy wrote:just came back. I kinda appreciate the meta approach, it actually trying something and then pretty much every character stays on camera explaining something i dont get for like 10 minutes.
The action kinda sucks, too digital.
Both Keanu and Carrie Ann look amazing tough.
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- so the matrix ressurrected both neo and trinity to have them in their new matrix code? i didnt understand shit
Their emotional connection generates great amounts of power
Re: Movie: Matrix Resurrections
Posted: Fri December 24, 2021 3:19 pm
by VinylGuy
Oh yeah yeah
I loved the meta moment with smith bashing warner bros
Re: Movie: Matrix Resurrections
Posted: Fri December 24, 2021 5:33 pm
by 4/5
I liked it, enjoyed the meta stuff and the commentary on our society in the 20 years since OG. We’re basically living in the analyst’s world. Would have liked more Merv but maybe that woulda been a deeper cut than they wanted to go for this movie, especially seeing as ppl for some reason seem confused about what they saw in this one. *shrug*
Re: Movie: Matrix Resurrections
Posted: Fri December 24, 2021 6:41 pm
by VinylGuy
The moment with neo in the elevator were everyone is looking at their phones was amusing and depressing
Re: Movie: Matrix Resurrections
Posted: Mon December 27, 2021 2:52 am
by VinylGuy
just saw Revolutions...first time since i saw it on the theatre. I enjoyed it more, but its still kinda boring. I think i like Resurrections more.
Re: Movie: Matrix Resurrections
Posted: Mon December 27, 2021 9:36 pm
by spike
Can this be considered a comedy?
Re: Movie: Matrix Resurrections
Posted: Mon December 27, 2021 9:56 pm
by spike
Or satire at least? If so, it’s pretty good.
Re: Movie: Matrix Resurrections
Posted: Mon December 27, 2021 9:59 pm
by Ms Harmless
knowing what I know of the Wachowskis, yes absolutely
Re: Movie: Matrix Resurrections
Posted: Mon December 27, 2021 10:59 pm
by dimejinky99
If anyone involved in this movie leans into it being a satire, I give up.
Re: Movie: Matrix Resurrections
Posted: Mon December 27, 2021 11:14 pm
by spike
dimejinky99 wrote:If anyone involved in this movie leans into it being a satire, I give up.
It was more fun than two and three. The first one was also fun… return to form!
Re: Movie: Matrix Resurrections
Posted: Tue December 28, 2021 2:11 pm
by VinylGuy
there is a satire element for sure. I think its the best thing in the new movie, and the seriousness of two and three were the worst thing in the OT.
Again, i would say the new one is better than Revelations. Ill might wat reloaded soon. I would be susprised if i liked the new one better too.
Re: Movie: Matrix Resurrections
Posted: Tue December 28, 2021 3:17 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
So i watched again and i liked it better the second time. Definitely more happening than i originally thought. I still think the Smith arc is kind of pointless
Re: Movie: Matrix Resurrections
Posted: Wed December 29, 2021 2:56 am
by BurtReynolds
In spite of myself I was actually on board with this at first. It was playing with some interesting ideas and going in unexpected places, but it got dumber and dumber as it went, limping to the finish line with some lame power-of-love and girlpower bullshit. They really didn't know where to go with it. A lot of half finished ideas and poor pacing (but not nearly as bad as the other sequels.)
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- - I was expecting a coked out video game cut scene of a movie (like all the other wachowski movies after The Matrix), but it was refreshingly kinda grounded. When it really needed to take off though, it didn't.
- if you're gonna make the movie about Trinity, make the movie about Trinity. Instead she shows up late in the movie, and without much coaxing decides she wants to be a cyber ninja instead of a wife and mother to 3 kids, then beats up everyone. Yawn. It's hilariously anti mother though.
- they really should have showed her murdering her children after they get turned into swarm bots.
- once again the Zion/Io cast is a waste of space.
-new Morpheus was cool but new Smith sucked
Baudrillard is still not impressed.
C
Re: Movie: Matrix Resurrections
Posted: Wed December 29, 2021 3:13 am
by The Argonaut
Yes, the most cowardly thing about this movie is that
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- nothing happens with the kid. Trinity punches the Analyst in the final scene in the apartment beacuse "that's for using kids". But nothing happens in the moment, when Tiffany becomes Trinity and the husband turns against her. The kids are just ignored. It isn't even made clear if the kids are bots or real people. A cowardly movie would have made them bots that she then smashes. A movie with guts would have made them people who are scared and confused that their mother just killed their dad and doesn't love them anymore. But this movie does nothing!
Re: Movie: Matrix Resurrections
Posted: Wed December 29, 2021 3:24 am
by BurtReynolds
The Argonaut wrote:Yes, the most cowardly thing about this movie is that
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- nothing happens with the kid. Trinity punches the Analyst in the final scene in the apartment beacuse "that's for using kids". But nothing happens in the moment, when Tiffany becomes Trinity and the husband turns against her. The kids are just ignored. It isn't even made clear if the kids are bots or real people. A cowardly movie would have made them bots that she then smashes. A movie with guts would have made them people who are scared and confused that their mother just killed their dad and doesn't love them anymore. But this movie does nothing!
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- I know! It was so funny that they just disappeared completely in an instant. Not even a reaction shot. Just nothing.
Re: Movie: Matrix Resurrections
Posted: Wed December 29, 2021 3:28 am
by Rangi Guy
Watched this last night. It was fine I guess, although I'm still not sure it needed to exist. I'll have completely forgotten it in a week or two
Re: Movie: Matrix Resurrections
Posted: Wed December 29, 2021 3:33 am
by spike
BurtReynolds wrote:The Argonaut wrote:Yes, the most cowardly thing about this movie is that
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- nothing happens with the kid. Trinity punches the Analyst in the final scene in the apartment beacuse "that's for using kids". But nothing happens in the moment, when Tiffany becomes Trinity and the husband turns against her. The kids are just ignored. It isn't even made clear if the kids are bots or real people. A cowardly movie would have made them bots that she then smashes. A movie with guts would have made them people who are scared and confused that their mother just killed their dad and doesn't love them anymore. But this movie does nothing!
- Spoiler: show
- I know! It was so funny that they just disappeared completely in an instant. Not even a reaction shot. Just nothing.
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- they'll just reprogram the kids to have another mother, whether they're pod humans or programs. there aren't any real stakes inside the matrix... you guys get that, right?
Re: Movie: Matrix Resurrections
Posted: Wed December 29, 2021 3:39 am
by BurtReynolds
spike wrote:BurtReynolds wrote:The Argonaut wrote:Yes, the most cowardly thing about this movie is that
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- nothing happens with the kid. Trinity punches the Analyst in the final scene in the apartment beacuse "that's for using kids". But nothing happens in the moment, when Tiffany becomes Trinity and the husband turns against her. The kids are just ignored. It isn't even made clear if the kids are bots or real people. A cowardly movie would have made them bots that she then smashes. A movie with guts would have made them people who are scared and confused that their mother just killed their dad and doesn't love them anymore. But this movie does nothing!
- Spoiler: show
- I know! It was so funny that they just disappeared completely in an instant. Not even a reaction shot. Just nothing.
- Spoiler: show
- they'll just reprogram the kids to have another mother, whether they're pod humans or programs. there aren't any real stakes inside the matrix... you guys get that, right?
You've got to be fucking kidding me.
Re: Movie: Matrix Resurrections
Posted: Wed December 29, 2021 3:45 am
by spike
BurtReynolds wrote:spike wrote:BurtReynolds wrote:The Argonaut wrote:Yes, the most cowardly thing about this movie is that
- Spoiler: show
- nothing happens with the kid. Trinity punches the Analyst in the final scene in the apartment beacuse "that's for using kids". But nothing happens in the moment, when Tiffany becomes Trinity and the husband turns against her. The kids are just ignored. It isn't even made clear if the kids are bots or real people. A cowardly movie would have made them bots that she then smashes. A movie with guts would have made them people who are scared and confused that their mother just killed their dad and doesn't love them anymore. But this movie does nothing!
- Spoiler: show
- I know! It was so funny that they just disappeared completely in an instant. Not even a reaction shot. Just nothing.
- Spoiler: show
- they'll just reprogram the kids to have another mother, whether they're pod humans or programs. there aren't any real stakes inside the matrix... you guys get that, right?
You've got to be fucking kidding me.
glad to clue you in buddy
Re: Movie: Matrix Resurrections
Posted: Wed December 29, 2021 3:47 am
by BurtReynolds
spike wrote:BurtReynolds wrote:spike wrote:BurtReynolds wrote:The Argonaut wrote:Yes, the most cowardly thing about this movie is that
- Spoiler: show
- nothing happens with the kid. Trinity punches the Analyst in the final scene in the apartment beacuse "that's for using kids". But nothing happens in the moment, when Tiffany becomes Trinity and the husband turns against her. The kids are just ignored. It isn't even made clear if the kids are bots or real people. A cowardly movie would have made them bots that she then smashes. A movie with guts would have made them people who are scared and confused that their mother just killed their dad and doesn't love them anymore. But this movie does nothing!
- Spoiler: show
- I know! It was so funny that they just disappeared completely in an instant. Not even a reaction shot. Just nothing.
- Spoiler: show
- they'll just reprogram the kids to have another mother, whether they're pod humans or programs. there aren't any real stakes inside the matrix... you guys get that, right?
You've got to be fucking kidding me.
glad to clue you in buddy
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- yeah she just has years of experience birthing and raising 3 kids, but fuck it right? She can just forget them in an instant. They can just be reprogrammed. And who cares about the few minutes of abject horror inflicted on real kids if they'll just be reprogrammed later, huh?