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Re: Cold Confession and Let It Ride - Avocado DEMOS
Posted: Tue July 23, 2013 10:01 am
by dimejinky99
Forgot that.
I can see a ton of smack down happening later today so.
Re: Cold Confession and Let It Ride - Avocado DEMOS
Posted: Tue July 23, 2013 10:02 am
by Lounge Lizard
dimejinky99 wrote:Well they have taken songs from pervious recording sessions and used them years later.
Not outside the realms of possibility. But strange the thread is still up On the pit.
Official leak maybe?
If so, I'd love to hear a fully produced version of CC. It's got huge potential. And someone needs to tell Ed to shut up sometimes and just let the band play their way through the outtro
Re: Cold Confession and Let It Ride - Avocado DEMOS
Posted: Tue July 23, 2013 10:03 am
by Blenheim Augustine
In order of likelihood:
- These are 'demos' (in that they aren't demos but initial takes of these songs without post production) from Avocado sessions since we already have corroborative evidence that existed seven years ago. There is no intention for them to be released. They have been leaked to increase interest in the new album and Pearl Jam generally to avoid them having to play the Oracle conference this year to make up for all the money their accountant took from them.
- As above but there is going to be a Lost Dogs II or Avocado EP that shortly follows LB
...
- These are old recordings but the band has re-recorded them for the new album and they are tracks 3 and 6
- As above but the band hasn't finalised the tracklist and is seeing what reaction they might get
- The band froze Ed's voice in a test-tube in 2006 and reimplanted it for one of the recent recording sessions - it ran out after two songs
- These are recent recordings.
Re: Cold Confession and Let It Ride - Avocado DEMOS
Posted: Tue July 23, 2013 10:05 am
by Blenheim Augustine
dimejinky99 wrote:Official leak maybe?
It is 100% an official leak. No way there is a coincidence that these get leaked seven years after they were recorded and during a period where the band is plugging a new album. Same as the 10 minute version of release and other tracks just before PJ20.
Re: Cold Confession and Let It Ride - Avocado DEMOS
Posted: Tue July 23, 2013 10:07 am
by Lounge Lizard
Why can't these be demos or old recordings which are at the same time meant to go an a new album?
Seriously, why not?
Re: Cold Confession and Let It Ride - Avocado DEMOS
Posted: Tue July 23, 2013 10:08 am
by Birds in Hell
Blenheim Augustine wrote:the 10 minute version of release.
Hang on, the what now?
Re: Cold Confession and Let It Ride - Avocado DEMOS
Posted: Tue July 23, 2013 10:09 am
by dimejinky99
Lounge Lizard wrote:Why can't these be demos or old recordings which are at the same time meant to go an a new album?
Seriously, why not?
That's not really Pj's MO. it has happened with Gone I think but we'll know later today based on 10cs reaction to all this I guess
Re: Cold Confession and Let It Ride - Avocado DEMOS
Posted: Tue July 23, 2013 10:09 am
by dimejinky99
Birds in Hell wrote:Blenheim Augustine wrote:the 10 minute version of release.
Hang on, the what now?
Re: Cold Confession and Let It Ride - Avocado DEMOS
Posted: Tue July 23, 2013 10:10 am
by injuddstree
Cold Confession is the most musically interesting song I've heard from them since Of The Girl and NAIS
Re: Cold Confession and Let It Ride - Avocado DEMOS
Posted: Tue July 23, 2013 10:15 am
by stupidmop
injuddstree wrote:Cold Confession is the most musically interesting song I've heard from them since Of The Girl and NAIS
I'm so happy it exists.
Re: Cold Confession and Let It Ride - Avocado DEMOS
Posted: Tue July 23, 2013 10:17 am
by Lounge Lizard
dimejinky99 wrote:That's not really Pj's MO. it has happened with Gone I think but we'll know later today based on 10cs reaction to all this I guess
"Gone" is a skipper for me. Actually the whole S/T for me is "skip... skip... skip... Unemployable... skip.. skip.. Yay, Inside Job!"
Re: Cold Confession and Let It Ride - Avocado DEMOS
Posted: Tue July 23, 2013 10:18 am
by dimejinky99
Lounge Lizard wrote:dimejinky99 wrote:That's not really Pj's MO. it has happened with Gone I think but we'll know later today based on 10cs reaction to all this I guess
"Gone" is a skipper for me. Actually the whole S/T for me is "skip... skip... skip... Unemployable... skip.. skip.. Yay, Inside Job!"
Me too. Haven't listened to it in years.
Re: Cold Confession and Let It Ride - Avocado DEMOS
Posted: Tue July 23, 2013 10:20 am
by injuddstree
They are either poorly advised on their song selection for albums, or they do it deliberately.
Cold Confession is infinitely superior sonically, musically and lyrically to most of their post Riot Act song releases.
Re: Cold Confession and Let It Ride - Avocado DEMOS
Posted: Tue July 23, 2013 10:21 am
by Brain_of_K
Where can I hear these tracks?!
Re: Cold Confession and Let It Ride - Avocado DEMOS
Posted: Tue July 23, 2013 10:24 am
by Lounge Lizard
injuddstree wrote:
Cold Confession is infinitely superior sonically, musically and lyrically to most of their post Riot Act song releases.
You do though get the feeling of wanting to slap Ed across the forehead saying "Just sing it in a lower octave you cunt!"
Re: Cold Confession and Let It Ride - Avocado DEMOS
Posted: Tue July 23, 2013 10:25 am
by injuddstree
Lounge Lizard wrote:injuddstree wrote:
Cold Confession is infinitely superior sonically, musically and lyrically to most of their post Riot Act song releases.
You do though get the feeling of wanting to slap Ed across the forehead saying "Just sing it in a lower octave you cunt!"
I dig it. A lot.
Re: Cold Confession and Let It Ride - Avocado DEMOS
Posted: Tue July 23, 2013 10:27 am
by stip
well, this was a lovely surprise.
Listening to cold concession now. It's pretty great, and makes some of the back half of S/T choices just mind boggling.
Re: Cold Confession and Let It Ride - Avocado DEMOS
Posted: Tue July 23, 2013 10:28 am
by Birds in Hell
injuddstree wrote:They are either poorly advised on their song selection for albums, or they do it deliberately.
Cold Confession is infinitely superior sonically, musically and lyrically to most of their post Riot Act song releases.
Without any great amount of hyperbole, I think these two songs are clearly superior to anything the band has chosen for release on their previous two records.
I can't even imagine what kind of discussions they've gone through internally where work of this quality is decided against in favour of songs like Gone, Inside Job, Come Back, etc.
As an aside, I absolutely adore the withered, cracked quality of Ed's voice in Cold Confession. If you think it would sound better if sung in a smoother, lower register, I think you're simply wrong. It's so wonderfully characterful as it is.
Re: Cold Confession and Let It Ride - Avocado DEMOS
Posted: Tue July 23, 2013 10:30 am
by stip
don't like let it ride nearly as much as cold confession
I also think they've released many songs on the last two albums as good as these, and some that are better.
Having said that, they've also released too many songs that are not nearly as good.
It's about time the Undone/Down/Sad/Fatal songs from these sessions surfaced.
Re: Cold Confession and Let It Ride - Avocado DEMOS
Posted: Tue July 23, 2013 10:32 am
by injuddstree
Birds in Hell wrote:injuddstree wrote:They are either poorly advised on their song selection for albums, or they do it deliberately.
Cold Confession is infinitely superior sonically, musically and lyrically to most of their post Riot Act song releases.
Without any great amount of hyperbole, I think these two songs are clearly superior to anything the band has chosen for release on their previous two records.
I can't even imagine what kind of discussions they've gone through internally where work of this quality is decided against in favour of songs like Gone, Inside Job, Come Back, etc.
As an aside, I absolutely adore the withered, cracked quality of Ed's voice in Cold Confession. If you think it would sound better if sung in a smoother, lower register, I think you're simply wrong. It's so wonderfully characterful as it is.
100% agree.
I find it actually quite fucked up that two songs like Gone and Speed of Sound were very late additions, bordering on rushed, to their respective albums.
Cold Confession was a leaked track title very early on in 2005 I believe. If something like this was bumped because Ed wanted Gone on Self Titled, it's a tragedy.