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Re: HBO: The White Lotus
Posted: Fri December 30, 2022 2:27 am
by wease
tree_ wrote:epilogue wrote:tree_ wrote:epilogue wrote:tree_ wrote:JuanHamm wrote:tree_ wrote:JuanHamm wrote:Hmm, well he was a very naive person so I could see him thinking that way .
But we are given clues that the dad actually does want to be a better person throughout the season. Like during that walk on the beach you could really get a sense of his longing. He clearly struggles with sexual addiction and it is hard for him To change but he is trying. And how do we know that the mother wouldn’t also benefit from them getting back together? It isn’t necessarily all about helping his dad. We really do not know much about the mother. Surely she is flawed also.
His Dad is a serial cheater. I'm sure he does actually feel regretful and I'm sure he felt that way the previous times, too. That doesn't mean he's not going to get bored again eventually and do it again.
Good point. But maybe his son believes he might actually change this time.
If that's the case, why doesn't he go to bat for his dad before there's the other stuff on the line?
Putting other stuff on the line actually tests his character. He’s feeling him out
Tests who's character? I don't understand what you mean.
the father’s . If he didn’t actually want to be with his mother anymore or if he didn’t sufficiently feel guilty about his past, he wouldn’t have paid the money. Not that amount. Why does he even want to be with the mother? It’s not like she has all the money or some thing. He sincerely misses her
If there’s any point where Dominic really sees and understands how his actions have hurt other people it’s that conversation with his dad in the last episode where he tells him everyone knew he was fucking around on his mom. That was after he paid the 50k so up to that point he was bribing his kid to talk to his estranged wife. It’s not until that conversation that he really starts actually taking responsibility for all of it.
Re: HBO: The White Lotus
Posted: Fri December 30, 2022 2:28 am
by wease
tragabigzanda wrote:Albie is very naive, very green about the world. When the season opens, he lives in a very idealistic headspace. I think that’s been shattered considerably by the end of the season. Which way he’ll turn out is certainly up to the viewer.
I’m personally of the mind that his ideals will gradually become compromised, eroded, until he’s a slightly different version of his dad and grandad.
This
Re: HBO: The White Lotus
Posted: Fri December 30, 2022 2:29 am
by wease
JuanHamm wrote:Tanya's gotta be Dime
No. Dime is Armond
Re: HBO: The White Lotus
Posted: Fri December 30, 2022 2:47 am
by tree_
wease wrote:tree_ wrote:epilogue wrote:tree_ wrote:epilogue wrote:tree_ wrote:JuanHamm wrote:tree_ wrote:JuanHamm wrote:Hmm, well he was a very naive person so I could see him thinking that way .
But we are given clues that the dad actually does want to be a better person throughout the season. Like during that walk on the beach you could really get a sense of his longing. He clearly struggles with sexual addiction and it is hard for him To change but he is trying. And how do we know that the mother wouldn’t also benefit from them getting back together? It isn’t necessarily all about helping his dad. We really do not know much about the mother. Surely she is flawed also.
His Dad is a serial cheater. I'm sure he does actually feel regretful and I'm sure he felt that way the previous times, too. That doesn't mean he's not going to get bored again eventually and do it again.
Good point. But maybe his son believes he might actually change this time.
If that's the case, why doesn't he go to bat for his dad before there's the other stuff on the line?
Putting other stuff on the line actually tests his character. He’s feeling him out
Tests who's character? I don't understand what you mean.
the father’s . If he didn’t actually want to be with his mother anymore or if he didn’t sufficiently feel guilty about his past, he wouldn’t have paid the money. Not that amount. Why does he even want to be with the mother? It’s not like she has all the money or some thing. He sincerely misses her
If there’s any point where Dominic really sees and understands how his actions have hurt other people it’s that conversation with his dad in the last episode where he tells him everyone knew he was fucking around on his mom. That was after he paid the 50k so up to that point he was bribing his kid to talk to his estranged wife. It’s not until that conversation that he really starts actually taking responsibility for all of it.
True

a very powerful moment
Re: HBO: The White Lotus
Posted: Fri December 30, 2022 3:15 am
by epilogue
spike wrote:Have we agreed that epilogue is Albie yet?
Nah bro I'm way more Portia than Albie
Re: HBO: The White Lotus
Posted: Fri December 30, 2022 3:19 am
by dad
epilogue wrote:spike wrote:Have we agreed that epilogue is Albie yet?
Nah bro I'm way more Portia than Albie
awww.
- Spoiler: show
- girl, you chose wrong.
Re: HBO: The White Lotus
Posted: Fri December 30, 2022 3:20 am
by epilogue
dad wrote:epilogue wrote:spike wrote:Have we agreed that epilogue is Albie yet?
Nah bro I'm way more Portia than Albie
awww.
- Spoiler: show
- girl, you chose wrong.
Story of my life. Until it wasn't. Portia's going to be ok.
Re: HBO: The White Lotus
Posted: Fri December 30, 2022 4:40 am
by daft twat
I think I liked this season equally to season one. Valentina was my favorite.
Re: HBO: The White Lotus
Posted: Fri December 30, 2022 5:04 am
by Ello Sailor
epilogue wrote:spike wrote:Have we agreed that epilogue is Albie yet?
Nah bro I'm way more Portia than Albie
It's probably more interesting if one RMer picks another RMer's The White Lotus character. We often aren't the best judges of our own The White Lotus character.
Re: HBO: The White Lotus
Posted: Fri December 30, 2022 6:32 am
by Ello Sailor
Jorge wrote:Ello Sailor wrote:VinylGuy wrote:who is Albie?
that one is hard
Can't be Argo. He hates women.
Needs to be someone with a rich daddy and big soy/ally energy.

I'm not fucking Albie OK
Jorge is
not Lucia confirmed.
Re: HBO: The White Lotus
Posted: Fri December 30, 2022 9:26 am
by spike
Ello Sailor wrote:epilogue wrote:spike wrote:Have we agreed that epilogue is Albie yet?
Nah bro I'm way more Portia than Albie
It's probably more interesting if one RMer picks another RMer's The White Lotus character. We often aren't the best judges of our own The White Lotus character.

Re: HBO: The White Lotus
Posted: Fri December 30, 2022 12:29 pm
by VinylGuy
Ello Sailor wrote:epilogue wrote:spike wrote:Have we agreed that epilogue is Albie yet?
Nah bro I'm way more Portia than Albie
It's probably more interesting if one RMer picks another RMer's The White Lotus character. We often aren't the best judges of our own The White Lotus character.

Re: HBO: The White Lotus
Posted: Fri December 30, 2022 12:37 pm
by epilogue
Ello Sailor wrote:epilogue wrote:spike wrote:Have we agreed that epilogue is Albie yet?
Nah bro I'm way more Portia than Albie
It's probably more interesting if one RMer picks another RMer's The White Lotus character. We often aren't the best judges of our own The White Lotus character.
My man!
Re: HBO: The White Lotus
Posted: Fri December 30, 2022 9:57 pm
by Jorge
Now watching season 1. A lot funnier than season 2
Re: HBO: The White Lotus
Posted: Fri December 30, 2022 10:00 pm
by epilogue
Jorge wrote:Now watching season 1. A lot funnier than season 2
Definitely
Re: HBO: The White Lotus
Posted: Fri December 30, 2022 10:04 pm
by Jorge
Maybe people prefer season 2 because it feels darker and more serious than season 1 but I'm really enjoying the more chaotic and comedic tone of season 1. Laughing a lot
Re: HBO: The White Lotus
Posted: Fri December 30, 2022 10:08 pm
by tree_
That was my impression. I really enjoyed season one more that way. Season two felt more like a mystery/thriller
Re: HBO: The White Lotus
Posted: Fri December 30, 2022 10:09 pm
by epilogue
People keep saying that S2 is a mystery/thriller and I just didn't get that. It's just a drama. And that's okay.
Re: HBO: The White Lotus
Posted: Fri December 30, 2022 10:13 pm
by tree_
Definitely a thriller vibe in the end. And throughout the entire season you’re wondering who died and whodunnit. But you could say the same about season one it just didn’t have that kind of vibe though
Re: HBO: The White Lotus
Posted: Fri December 30, 2022 10:17 pm
by epilogue
I was far more engaged in the device of "who done it" in S1 than in S2. I'd kinda forgotten about the whole dead body thing in S2, actually. And by the time I remembered it was fairly clear what was going on. Mystery is probably fair, but there wasn't much suspense for me. Certainly not a "thriller" vibe.
But, admittedly, my investment was probably lessened by the fact that it was S2 and we'd just done the same thing in S1. I had no idea going into S2 if there would be a body. As soon as there was, I was like, okay, fine, so it's that again, got it. And moved on. That's more on me than the writing/premise.