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Re: Vs. 30th Anniversary (Reissue, see page 3)

Posted: Sun December 10, 2023 3:54 am
by 96583UP
Bring back Dave A

Re: Vs. 30th Anniversary (Reissue, see page 3)

Posted: Tue December 12, 2023 4:47 pm
by joostone
96583UP wrote:Bring back Dave A
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Re: Vs. 30th Anniversary (Reissue, see page 3)

Posted: Tue December 12, 2023 4:58 pm
by 96583UP
my guess is Ed must take exception to Dave A bc Dave A leaked stuff to that Five against one book about Ed personal stuff, and probably family stuff too

that’s probably the bridge that made it too far to cross

Ed had been going through crazy stalker stuff at that time and my guess is it all got filed in under ‘existential threat’

a great deal of time has passed and would be great for them to hash it out

obv continuing to dwell on ‘that-Era’ Ed is not reasonable as that era has long passed

but I do wonder if current-era Ed could do more to attempt to reach out and smooth things over

maybe Stone can go in for an initial brunch meeting with an olive branch, bring things back full circle

Re: Vs. 30th Anniversary (Reissue, see page 3)

Posted: Tue December 12, 2023 5:00 pm
by VinylGuy
it still seems so weird Dave is obsessed with that moment of his life

Re: Vs. 30th Anniversary (Reissue, see page 3)

Posted: Tue December 12, 2023 5:14 pm
by Chris_H_2
VinylGuy wrote:it still seems so weird Dave is obsessed with that moment of his life
you mean when he was a part of the biggest band in the world making a crap ton of money? yeah, super strange to be obsessed about that.

Re: Vs. 30th Anniversary (Reissue, see page 3)

Posted: Tue December 12, 2023 5:15 pm
by tragabigzanda
pearl jam sucks now

Re: Vs. 30th Anniversary (Reissue, see page 3)

Posted: Tue December 12, 2023 5:17 pm
by liebzz
Stone should not invite Dave A. to any meals that could include eggs. It’s too soon.

Re: Vs. 30th Anniversary (Reissue, see page 3)

Posted: Tue December 12, 2023 6:13 pm
by wease
tragabigzanda wrote:I genuinely wonder if Dave sold his publishing stake at a discount at some point
Which would produce more revenue over the long haul?

I bet Ed is super pissed they did writing credits like that for those two albums.

Re: Vs. 30th Anniversary (Reissue, see page 3)

Posted: Tue December 12, 2023 6:16 pm
by Strat
tragabigzanda wrote:I genuinely wonder if Dave sold his publishing stake at a discount at some point
according to him, he has got nothing. He signed it all away when he was fired.

Re: Vs. 30th Anniversary (Reissue, see page 3)

Posted: Tue December 12, 2023 6:30 pm
by 96583UP
remember when PJ had the nerve to play Angel live without Dave

SOBs

shove it in the butthole

Re: Vs. 30th Anniversary (Reissue, see page 3)

Posted: Tue December 12, 2023 6:31 pm
by tragabigzanda
pearl jam sucks now

Re: Vs. 30th Anniversary (Reissue, see page 3)

Posted: Tue December 12, 2023 6:46 pm
by wease
tragabigzanda wrote:
Strat wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:I genuinely wonder if Dave sold his publishing stake at a discount at some point
according to him, he has got nothing. He signed it all away when he was fired.
Well that explains things
Prob not the best decision…

Re: Vs. 30th Anniversary (Reissue, see page 3)

Posted: Tue December 12, 2023 6:49 pm
by guitar_davey
96583UP wrote:my guess is Ed must take exception to Dave A bc Dave A leaked stuff to that Five against one book about Ed personal stuff, and probably family stuff too

Ed had been going through crazy stalker stuff at that time and my guess is it all got filed in under ‘existential threat’
If that's the case, why would EV want to have anything to do with the guy ever again?
96583UP wrote:but I do wonder if current-era Ed could do more to attempt to reach out and smooth things over
Again, based on the above info and the fact they're clearly just not aligned with the guy, why would he want to?

Re: Vs. 30th Anniversary (Reissue, see page 3)

Posted: Tue December 12, 2023 6:53 pm
by Strat
guitar_davey wrote:
96583UP wrote:my guess is Ed must take exception to Dave A bc Dave A leaked stuff to that Five against one book about Ed personal stuff, and probably family stuff too

Ed had been going through crazy stalker stuff at that time and my guess is it all got filed in under ‘existential threat’
If that's the case, why would EV want to have anything to do with the guy ever again?
96583UP wrote:but I do wonder if current-era Ed could do more to attempt to reach out and smooth things over
Again, based on the above info and the fact they're clearly just not aligned with the guy, why would he want to?
to please the fans who haven't liked anything from pearl jam in 29 years?

Re: Vs. 30th Anniversary (Reissue, see page 3)

Posted: Tue December 12, 2023 6:53 pm
by tragabigzanda
pearl jam sucks now

Re: Vs. 30th Anniversary (Reissue, see page 3)

Posted: Tue December 12, 2023 6:56 pm
by guitar_davey
Strat wrote:
guitar_davey wrote:
96583UP wrote:my guess is Ed must take exception to Dave A bc Dave A leaked stuff to that Five against one book about Ed personal stuff, and probably family stuff too

Ed had been going through crazy stalker stuff at that time and my guess is it all got filed in under ‘existential threat’
If that's the case, why would EV want to have anything to do with the guy ever again?
96583UP wrote:but I do wonder if current-era Ed could do more to attempt to reach out and smooth things over
Again, based on the above info and the fact they're clearly just not aligned with the guy, why would he want to?
to please the fans who haven't liked anything from pearl jam in 29 years?
At the cost of his own enjoyment and sense of personal safety? Nah. Even that Instagram post above makes the guy look like a jackass.

Re: Vs. 30th Anniversary (Reissue, see page 3)

Posted: Tue December 12, 2023 7:07 pm
by Vitalogist
Vs overall is a mixed bag for me, but there’s no denying the drumming is top notch

Re: Vs. 30th Anniversary (Reissue, see page 3)

Posted: Tue December 12, 2023 7:19 pm
by guitar_davey
Don't get me wrong, I love the records he drums on and I think he's an integral part of PJ's history.

But it's in the past. Leave it there.

Re: Vs. 30th Anniversary (Reissue, see page 3)

Posted: Tue December 12, 2023 7:42 pm
by Happy Trees
tragabigzanda wrote: Agreed. There are people from my 20s who were really toxic personalities at the time. I'd like to think they've grown and evolved since then, but why would I ever go out of my way to find out?
It rarely happens, believe me. If anything, you find them to be worse, especially in the Trumpy climate we're living in now.

And Dave clearly needs his binky. So...

Re: Vs. 30th Anniversary (Reissue, see page 3)

Posted: Tue December 12, 2023 8:02 pm
by 96583UP
guitar_davey wrote:
Strat wrote:
guitar_davey wrote:
96583UP wrote:my guess is Ed must take exception to Dave A bc Dave A leaked stuff to that Five against one book about Ed personal stuff, and probably family stuff too

Ed had been going through crazy stalker stuff at that time and my guess is it all got filed in under ‘existential threat’
If that's the case, why would EV want to have anything to do with the guy ever again?
96583UP wrote:but I do wonder if current-era Ed could do more to attempt to reach out and smooth things over
Again, based on the above info and the fact they're clearly just not aligned with the guy, why would he want to?
to please the fans who haven't liked anything from pearl jam in 29 years?
At the cost of his own enjoyment and sense of personal safety? Nah. Even that Instagram post above makes the guy look like a jackass.
for someone whose m.o. is all about love and putting fixin on it maybe it would evidence emotional maturity to seek to make amends