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Re: Running
Posted: Thu March 21, 2024 4:46 pm
by Strat
oneway23 wrote:tragabigzanda wrote:oneway23 wrote:Strat wrote:Thejambi wrote:I’ll give Trag this one. The production 100% is getting in the way of this song.
i cant hear a single CYmbal or Crash ring out

No decay or reverb tails at all on both songs so far...air-tight production, sounds like maybe no ambient mics so far? Is that off-base?
I'm sure they used room mics when tracking, but none of it's there in the mix
Fucking producer makes one of the greatest drummers of his generation sound like a plug-in. Does this mean I hate Pearl Jam?

Re: Running
Posted: Thu March 21, 2024 4:48 pm
by stip
ran back to my office for a quick first listen. Fast, fun, low ambition song. Bridge is really cool but not sure it fits. Basically co-signing what McP said until I have a chance to actually dive into it. 3 star song.
Re: Running
Posted: Thu March 21, 2024 4:49 pm
by Thurman Murman
3 star song for me....SBWM was initially a 3 star song for me that i bumped to 4 after the album came out so there may be hope yet.
Re: Running
Posted: Thu March 21, 2024 4:49 pm
by Ms Harmless
oneway23 wrote:Ms Harmless wrote:time to turn off the "imagine this album, but produced like Vitalogy" part of my brain
I have zero problems with the songs I'm hearing so far
I would love to do that sometimes, trust me. I can't help it...These are the things that hit my ears first
it does help that I listen to a lot of other music that has what Trag would call "modern production"; I don't know who produces Sleep Token but hopefully they cross paths with Pearl Jam one day
Re: Running
Posted: Thu March 21, 2024 4:50 pm
by VinylGuy
Song credits
Associated Performer, Vocals, Background Vocalist, Guitar, Piano: Eddie Vedder
Associated Performer, Baritone Guitar, Bass, Guitar: Jeff Ament
Associated Performer, Guitar, Piano: Mike McCready
Associated Performer, Guitar: Stone Gossard
Associated Performer, Drums, Percussion: Matt Cameron
Associated Performer, Guitar, Keyboards, Piano: Josh Klinghoffer
Re: Running
Posted: Thu March 21, 2024 4:50 pm
by Strat
Definitely didnt need a third guitar player on this one
Re: Running
Posted: Thu March 21, 2024 4:50 pm
by DDWJMUVW
oneway23 wrote:tragabigzanda wrote:oneway23 wrote:Strat wrote:Thejambi wrote:I’ll give Trag this one. The production 100% is getting in the way of this song.
i cant hear a single CYmbal or Crash ring out

No decay or reverb tails at all on both songs so far...air-tight production, sounds like maybe no ambient mics so far? Is that off-base?
I'm sure they used room mics when tracking, but none of it's there in the mix
Fucking producer makes one of the greatest drummers of his generation sound like a plug-in. Does this mean I hate Pearl Jam?
I can hear Matt all over DM and Running. One can certainly take issue with the way he sounds (tonally, etc), but his presence is more evident here than it has been in a while, at least to me.
Re: Running
Posted: Thu March 21, 2024 4:51 pm
by Thejambi
tragabigzanda wrote:RockPusher wrote:Thejambi wrote:I’ll give Trag this one. The production 100% is getting in the way of this song.
Yeah. If this is how it sounds on the album, I'm in the same line.
what is happening right now? I thought we'd need to live with the album for like two years before the tides started turning
Ha. I wasn’t in love with how Dark Matter sounded but the production somewhat suited it. This is just a wall of mush.
Re: Running
Posted: Thu March 21, 2024 4:51 pm
by Ms Harmless
I really think we need to dial down "one of the greatest drummers of his generation" with Matt
that's Tomas Haake
Re: Running
Posted: Thu March 21, 2024 4:51 pm
by Jorge
Is there a part where Ed sings "potato!"
Re: Running
Posted: Thu March 21, 2024 4:51 pm
by VinylGuy
Im actually warming up with the production a lot...im loving how fucking heavy those last 30 seconds are
Re: Running
Posted: Thu March 21, 2024 4:52 pm
by Strat
VinylGuy wrote:Song credits
Associated Performer, Drums, Percussion: Matt Cameron

Re: Running
Posted: Thu March 21, 2024 4:52 pm
by Release_Me
I think this is a grower. The bridge makes it that way for me. Had it been frenetic throughout, I couldn't listen to it on repeat like I have been. That and the fact that I like the melody more and more on repeated listens helps.
Also, this might work very well on the album given its placement between mellower/more mid-tempo songs.
Re: Running
Posted: Thu March 21, 2024 4:53 pm
by stip
Jorge wrote:Is there a part where Ed sings "potato!"
Yes! if that turns out to be true it becomes a five star song
Re: Running
Posted: Thu March 21, 2024 4:53 pm
by dprival78
Strat wrote:Definitely didnt need a third guitar player on this one
the second pianist cancels one of them out
Re: Running
Posted: Thu March 21, 2024 4:54 pm
by oneway23
Strat wrote:
C'est La Vie, baby. Kinda reminding me of Mark Ronson's work on Queens of the Stone Age's Villains so far.
VinylGuy wrote:Song credits
Piano: Eddie Vedder
Piano: Mike McCready
Piano: Josh Klinghoffer
Photo of them all cozy on the bench together, please.
Ms Harmless wrote:I really think we need to dial down "one of the greatest drummers of his generation" with Matt
that's Tomas Haake
One of...one of...Love Tomas as well. Definitely
Re: Running
Posted: Thu March 21, 2024 4:56 pm
by Thejambi
Ms Harmless wrote:I really think we need to dial down "one of the greatest drummers of his generation" with Matt
that's Tomas Haake
Both of these statements can be true.
Re: Running
Posted: Thu March 21, 2024 4:57 pm
by Ms Harmless
oneway23 wrote:Strat wrote:
C'est La Vie, baby. Kinda reminding me of Mark Ronson's work on Queens of the Stone Age's Villains so far.
VinylGuy wrote:Song credits
Piano: Eddie Vedder
Piano: Mike McCready
Piano: Josh Klinghoffer
Photo of them all cozy on the bench together, please.
Ms Harmless wrote:I really think we need to dial down "one of the greatest drummers of his generation" with Matt
that's Tomas Haake
One of...one of...Love Tomas as well. Definitely

Re: Running
Posted: Thu March 21, 2024 4:58 pm
by Ms Harmless
Thejambi wrote:Ms Harmless wrote:I really think we need to dial down "one of the greatest drummers of his generation" with Matt
that's Tomas Haake
Both of these statements can be true.
you're right I just need to mention Tomas Haake at least once a day
Re: Running
Posted: Thu March 21, 2024 4:59 pm
by Ms Harmless
I really actually do like this song
POTATO! POTATO!