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Re: Oscars 2025 (Academy Awards)

Posted: Mon March 03, 2025 5:06 pm
by tree_
Jorge wrote:
tree_ wrote:But uh, you might want to look into that AI stuff. Not egregious, and pretty much industry standard stuff.
It can't be "industry standard" because it's such new technology. There is no standard yet as to how it is implemented
no, i meant the level of touching up. the method is new, but slight voice altering in post production is standard. They used AI to save money because of the tight budget

Re: Oscars 2025 (Academy Awards)

Posted: Mon March 03, 2025 5:07 pm
by Jorge
The Adrien Brody speech was embarrassing because not only did it go on for way too fucking long, he also closed it with the worst kind of facile, meaningless platitudes in an attempt to sound important. Just the lamest shit

Re: Oscars 2025 (Academy Awards)

Posted: Mon March 03, 2025 5:08 pm
by tree_
Jorge wrote:The Adrien Brody speech was embarrassing because not only did it go on for way too fucking long, he also closed it with the worst kind of facile, meaningless platitudes in an attempt to sound important. Just the lamest shit
sounded sincere to me. he's not a writer, but it came from the heart. why must you pretend to know his intentions?

Re: Oscars 2025 (Academy Awards)

Posted: Mon March 03, 2025 5:09 pm
by Jorge
tree_ wrote:
Jorge wrote:
tree_ wrote:But uh, you might want to look into that AI stuff. Not egregious, and pretty much industry standard stuff.
It can't be "industry standard" because it's such new technology. There is no standard yet as to how it is implemented
no, i meant the level of touching up. the method is new, but slight voice altering in post production is standard. They used AI to save money because of the tight budget
Yes, pitch correction, EQ and the like. This is nothing like that. It's not standard, it can't be

Re: Oscars 2025 (Academy Awards)

Posted: Mon March 03, 2025 5:09 pm
by tree_
Jorge wrote:
tree_ wrote:
Jorge wrote:
tree_ wrote:But uh, you might want to look into that AI stuff. Not egregious, and pretty much industry standard stuff.
It can't be "industry standard" because it's such new technology. There is no standard yet as to how it is implemented
no, i meant the level of touching up. the method is new, but slight voice altering in post production is standard. They used AI to save money because of the tight budget
Yes, pitch correction, EQ and the like. This is nothing like that. It's not standard, it can't be
sounds like you did your research... ... NOT

Re: Oscars 2025 (Academy Awards)

Posted: Mon March 03, 2025 5:10 pm
by Jorge
tree_ wrote:
Jorge wrote:The Adrien Brody speech was embarrassing because not only did it go on for way too fucking long, he also closed it with the worst kind of facile, meaningless platitudes in an attempt to sound important. Just the lamest shit
sounded sincere to me. he's not a writer, but it came from the heart. why must you pretend to know his intentions?
"It came from the heart" is also pretending to know his intentions. Also what do you care if people didn't like his speech? Relax about it, we're allowed

Re: Oscars 2025 (Academy Awards)

Posted: Mon March 03, 2025 5:10 pm
by tree_
ugh you're right i normally wouldn't give a shit about this kind of thing but i goddamn love The Brutalist and all the performances so much.. happy he won, happy for him and happy for the brutalist

Re: Oscars 2025 (Academy Awards)

Posted: Mon March 03, 2025 5:11 pm
by Jorge
But this isn't about The Brutalist. It's about a speech he made. You don't have to love literally everything associated with a film you like

Re: Oscars 2025 (Academy Awards)

Posted: Mon March 03, 2025 5:12 pm
by Jorge
tree_ wrote:
Jorge wrote:
tree_ wrote:
Jorge wrote:
tree_ wrote:But uh, you might want to look into that AI stuff. Not egregious, and pretty much industry standard stuff.
It can't be "industry standard" because it's such new technology. There is no standard yet as to how it is implemented
no, i meant the level of touching up. the method is new, but slight voice altering in post production is standard. They used AI to save money because of the tight budget
Yes, pitch correction, EQ and the like. This is nothing like that. It's not standard, it can't be
sounds like you did your research... ... NOT
I've been reading about this whole kerfuffle for months. The kind of thing that would've been done with ADR and a dialogue coach was done with AI software. Again, it is not standard

Re: Oscars 2025 (Academy Awards)

Posted: Mon March 03, 2025 5:12 pm
by tree_
Jorge wrote:But this isn't about The Brutalist. It's about a speech he made. You don't have to love literally everything associated with a film you like
no, i got excited he won.. i don't love the speech, but don't hate it either.. i found it weird you guys hated it so much

Re: Oscars 2025 (Academy Awards)

Posted: Mon March 03, 2025 5:13 pm
by tree_
Jorge wrote:
tree_ wrote:
Jorge wrote:
tree_ wrote:
Jorge wrote:
tree_ wrote:But uh, you might want to look into that AI stuff. Not egregious, and pretty much industry standard stuff.
It can't be "industry standard" because it's such new technology. There is no standard yet as to how it is implemented
no, i meant the level of touching up. the method is new, but slight voice altering in post production is standard. They used AI to save money because of the tight budget
Yes, pitch correction, EQ and the like. This is nothing like that. It's not standard, it can't be
sounds like you did your research... ... NOT
I've been reading about this whole kerfuffle for months. The kind of thing that would've been done with ADR and a dialogue coach was done with AI software. Again, it is not standard
“Adrien and Felicity's performances are completely their own. They worked for months with dialect coach Tanera Marshall to perfect their accents,” Corbet explained. “Innovative Respeecher technology was used in Hungarian language dialogue editing only, specifically to refine certain vowels and letters for accuracy.

Re: Oscars 2025 (Academy Awards)

Posted: Mon March 03, 2025 5:13 pm
by Anders
tree_ wrote:
Jorge wrote:The Adrien Brody speech was embarrassing because not only did it go on for way too fucking long, he also closed it with the worst kind of facile, meaningless platitudes in an attempt to sound important. Just the lamest shit
sounded sincere to me. he's not a writer, but it came from the heart. why must you pretend to know his intentions?
Agreed. Weird reactions here.

Re: Oscars 2025 (Academy Awards)

Posted: Mon March 03, 2025 5:14 pm
by tragabigzanda
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

Re: Oscars 2025 (Academy Awards)

Posted: Mon March 03, 2025 5:15 pm
by Anders
Hopefully next year every winner gets to soeak for longer. Less conmercials and other stuff.

Re: Oscars 2025 (Academy Awards)

Posted: Mon March 03, 2025 5:15 pm
by Jorge
tree_ wrote:
Jorge wrote:
tree_ wrote:
Jorge wrote:
tree_ wrote:
Jorge wrote:
tree_ wrote:But uh, you might want to look into that AI stuff. Not egregious, and pretty much industry standard stuff.
It can't be "industry standard" because it's such new technology. There is no standard yet as to how it is implemented
no, i meant the level of touching up. the method is new, but slight voice altering in post production is standard. They used AI to save money because of the tight budget
Yes, pitch correction, EQ and the like. This is nothing like that. It's not standard, it can't be
sounds like you did your research... ... NOT
I've been reading about this whole kerfuffle for months. The kind of thing that would've been done with ADR and a dialogue coach was done with AI software. Again, it is not standard
“Adrien and Felicity's performances are completely their own. They worked for months with dialect coach Tanera Marshall to perfect their accents,” Corbet explained. “Innovative Respeecher technology was used in Hungarian language dialogue editing only, specifically to refine certain vowels and letters for accuracy.
I KNOW

NOT STANDARD

Re: Oscars 2025 (Academy Awards)

Posted: Mon March 03, 2025 5:16 pm
by Anders
His performance in The Pianist was the best I’ve seen from him, and it was jawdropping.

Re: Oscars 2025 (Academy Awards)

Posted: Mon March 03, 2025 5:18 pm
by tree_
tragabigzanda wrote:
tree_ wrote:
Jorge wrote:The Adrien Brody speech was embarrassing because not only did it go on for way too fucking long, he also closed it with the worst kind of facile, meaningless platitudes in an attempt to sound important. Just the lamest shit
sounded sincere to me. he's not a writer, but it came from the heart. why must you pretend to know his intentions?
No one can know anything about these people. By nature of our engagement with their industry, we are forced to consume not just their core products -- movies and shows -- but also the marketing apparatus that asks us to care about the actors as people, to decide whether or not we like them unconditionally, or at least to the extent that we'll give them a recurring shot any time they're in a movie or show.

Adrian Brody doesn't pass the smell test for me. He was pretty good in The Darjeeling Limited. I've otherwise never seen him do a thing that moved me; and his public persona annoys me. This stupid speech is just one example of him acting like a doofus any time the camera is trained on him.

I bet he's an abysmal hang, and this is a perfectly healthy way to interact with movies and celebrity culture.
again, i don't care who he is as person, or how good "a hang" he is as long as he's not harming people in his free time. i just love the movie and his performance, and his speech was mostly thanking people who helped him achieve his performance.

Re: Oscars 2025 (Academy Awards)

Posted: Mon March 03, 2025 5:18 pm
by Jorge
At least he didn't sexually assault Halle Berry this time

Re: Oscars 2025 (Academy Awards)

Posted: Mon March 03, 2025 5:19 pm
by tree_
Jorge wrote:
tree_ wrote:
Jorge wrote:
tree_ wrote:
Jorge wrote:
tree_ wrote:
Jorge wrote:
tree_ wrote:But uh, you might want to look into that AI stuff. Not egregious, and pretty much industry standard stuff.
It can't be "industry standard" because it's such new technology. There is no standard yet as to how it is implemented
no, i meant the level of touching up. the method is new, but slight voice altering in post production is standard. They used AI to save money because of the tight budget
Yes, pitch correction, EQ and the like. This is nothing like that. It's not standard, it can't be
sounds like you did your research... ... NOT
I've been reading about this whole kerfuffle for months. The kind of thing that would've been done with ADR and a dialogue coach was done with AI software. Again, it is not standard
“Adrien and Felicity's performances are completely their own. They worked for months with dialect coach Tanera Marshall to perfect their accents,” Corbet explained. “Innovative Respeecher technology was used in Hungarian language dialogue editing only, specifically to refine certain vowels and letters for accuracy.
I KNOW

NOT STANDARD
you could've left out the hungarian dialogue altogether and it wouldn't change anyone's opinion of this movie who doesn't speak hungarian.. it's just a little detail that doesn't effect the overall performance, but yes you're right that this specifically isn't standard i guess

Re: Oscars 2025 (Academy Awards)

Posted: Mon March 03, 2025 5:19 pm
by dimejinky99
Jorge wrote:
tree_ wrote:But uh, you might want to look into that AI stuff. Not egregious, and pretty much industry standard stuff.
It can't be "industry standard" because it's such new technology. There is no standard yet as to how it is implemented
Precisely.
I understand they’ve introduced a rule from now on any performances ‘enhanced’ by AI have to be declared beforehand.

He should have just done an Eastern European accent. Thats acting. That’s the entire gig! Even if it was a bad accent and wasn’t spot on it still would have been the performance.
Using AI to do it is flat out cheating.


And no actor worth their salt would be happy to have ai cheat it for them. Especially in an awards context.