Red Mosquito

stip wrote:

dimejinky99 wrote:This one has the best whole side of any PJ record. Sometimes through Smile. Doesn't get better than that anywhere in their entire catalogue.

I think Ten, Vitalogy, Backspacer, and S/T have a better run of 1-5 songs. Probably Vs. too.

Definitely better than Riot act and Binaural though!

The things you say, man.

I always thought No Code had the best sound quality of the studio albums, a certain crispness the others lack.

Biff Pocoroba wrote:I always thought No Code had the best sound quality of the studio albums, a certain crispness the others lack.

It absolutely does.

sound wise this is probably in the bottom half of PJ records for me.

stip wrote:sound wise this is probably in the bottom half of PJ records for me.

Now you're just fuckin' around. I get the not liking Ed's lyrics I guess, but the sound?

stip wrote:sound wise this is probably in the bottom half of PJ records for me.

And S/T is the best sounding, right?

cutuphalfdead wrote:

Biff Pocoroba wrote:I always thought No Code had the best sound quality of the studio albums, a certain crispness the others lack.

It absolutely does.

I love the production but not sure I'd describe it as crisp but whatever. It's more that you don't notice the 'production' it just sounds like them playing and you can hear everyone. The only thing that annoys me is the fading in and out of Mike's leads in Red Mosquito - it sounds amateur. I can see in a few places why they felt they rushed the recording of that as there are a few more mistakes and bum notes than you would usually expect - but then I quite like that.

You know what pissed me off was the RED MOSQUITO that was on radio for months prior to release was superior to the album studio version

Blenheim Augustine wrote:

cutuphalfdead wrote:

Biff Pocoroba wrote:I always thought No Code had the best sound quality of the studio albums, a certain crispness the others lack.

It absolutely does.

I love the production but not sure I'd describe it as crisp but whatever. It's more that you don't notice the 'production' it just sounds like them playing and you can hear everyone. The only thing that annoys me is the fading in and out of Mike's leads in Red Mosquito - it sounds amateur. I can see in a few places why they felt they rushed the recording of that as there are a few more mistakes and bum notes than you would usually expect - but then I quite like that.

It's crisp without being polished. Like a good apple that hasn't been covered in wax.

Yeah but the apple is sour

EJ wrote:

stip wrote:sound wise this is probably in the bottom half of PJ records for me.

And S/T is the best sounding, right?

nah, it's probably the worst.

My favorite sounding records are Vs., Vitalogy, Yield, and Riot Act

stip wrote:

EJ wrote:

stip wrote:sound wise this is probably in the bottom half of PJ records for me.

And S/T is the best sounding, right?

nah, it's probably the worst.

My favorite sounding records are Vs., Vitalogy, Yield, and Riot Act

I would say that whatever Brendan O'Brien was up to with Vitalogy and the Merkinball single, that was a perfect fit for their sound. No Code for me comes close after this because of how warm it sounds. S/t suffers from some bad production, but I think, personally, that the songs make up for it. I was never into the mixes for Riot Act because I thought it sounded muted compared to what they sounded like live. Binaural sounds great on headphones, but I don't like the sound in any other format. This is sad because some of the songs on that album blow my mind - this could be close to my favorite if not for that. Instead it sits middle-bottom for me.

Back to No Code: pure genius!

liebzz wrote:

stip wrote:

EJ wrote:

stip wrote:sound wise this is probably in the bottom half of PJ records for me.

And S/T is the best sounding, right?

nah, it's probably the worst.

My favorite sounding records are Vs., Vitalogy, Yield, and Riot Act

I would say that whatever Brendan O'Brien was up to with Vitalogy and the Merkinball single, that was a perfect fit for their sound. No Code for me comes close after this because of how warm it sounds. S/t suffers from some bad production, but I think, personally, that the songs make up for it. I was never into the mixes for Riot Act because I thought it sounded muted compared to what they sounded like live. Binaural sounds great on headphones, but I don't like the sound in any other format. This is sad because some of the songs on that album blow my mind - this could be close to my favorite if not for that. Instead it sits middle-bottom for me.

Back to No Code: pure genius!

I really think the songwriting on Binaural is really interesting, and it does sound great in headphones. Binaural and Riot Act are the only records of theirs where I really notice the production in a good way and S/T is the only record where I really notice it in a bad way.

Of note: When I really got into them at first (Ten, Vs, Vitalogy) my mp3 qualities were awful and my headphones were cheap (15 year-old kid)...and when I started buying better headphones and thinking about production qualities was when I was getting into their later period stuff.

The sound of No Code is perfect. This record and Vs. capture everything i love about the band.

Yield is the other record were you can actually discover a lot of thing that are hidden in the production...great job from BOB...Binaural is amazing, but some songs needed that space that No Code has.

I love the way Riot Act sounds. I've long said that Riot Act sounds the best. I love the production on that thing. After listening to No Code on some really great speakers (for the first time) about 2 months ago, I absolutely take back some of the negative things I said about it's production. It sounds really nice. But Riot Act and Vitalogy still sound better. Or maybe No Code does sound better, I just prefer those other records' sounds. Not sure which is the more accurate statement.

cutuphalfdead wrote:

Blenheim Augustine wrote:

cutuphalfdead wrote:

Biff Pocoroba wrote:I always thought No Code had the best sound quality of the studio albums, a certain crispness the others lack.

It absolutely does.

I love the production but not sure I'd describe it as crisp but whatever. It's more that you don't notice the 'production' it just sounds like them playing and you can hear everyone. The only thing that annoys me is the fading in and out of Mike's leads in Red Mosquito - it sounds amateur. I can see in a few places why they felt they rushed the recording of that as there are a few more mistakes and bum notes than you would usually expect - but then I quite like that.

It's crisp without being polished. Like a good apple that hasn't been covered in wax.

I once ate a bunch of shellacked grapes in college.

VinylGuy wrote:The sound of No Code is perfect. This record and Vs. capture everything i love about the band.

Yield is the other record were you can actually discover a lot of thing that are hidden in the production...great job from BOB...Binaural is amazing, but some songs needed that space that No Code has.

I think that's the case for every record, though. There's not a single PJ album that won't reveal nice little moments with headphones.

Honestly one of my favorite examples of this is Force of Nature. Listen carefully to the music in the second verse

is "whale song" a no code outtake? it kinda sounds like it. i think the solo in "whale song" is the best "sound" the band ever made in the studio. besides "in my tree".

I thought it was yield.

stip wrote:

VinylGuy wrote:The sound of No Code is perfect. This record and Vs. capture everything i love about the band.

Yield is the other record were you can actually discover a lot of thing that are hidden in the production...great job from BOB...Binaural is amazing, but some songs needed that space that No Code has.

I think that's the case for every record, though. There's not a single PJ album that won't reveal nice little moments with headphones.

Honestly one of my favorite examples of this is Force of Nature. Listen carefully to the music in the second verse

Heard my first live version of this last night. They don't know what to do with it live and ed sounds bored. But the album version is incredible.