Red Mosquito

Mine wrote:

McParadigm wrote:

Mine wrote:

McParadigm wrote:The sooner they say it out loud, the sooner the healing can begin

They've been saying it out loud for 10 years after which they switched to "people have been telling us it's their favourite album for 10 years so we figured we shouldn't be talking shit about it in public anymore".

Yeah, they really fell silent on that one.

Any regrets?

Jeff Ament: Probably moreso on the Vitalogy or No Code era, I wish I had more time with those songs. Those records, Ed would show us a song and play it twice and that’s sort of what would end up going out there. Luckily you get to play those songs live and there’s lots of pretty good versions of those songs live.

Stone Gossard: You can kind of fix your part live if it’s pretty subtle. There’s things you can do to be better for some of those old songs where somebody wouldn’t necessarily pick up on it.

and funny how so many people who's favourite records are the 2 above are vehemently convinced the problem with PJ is not enough influence of those same Ament and Gossard.

Vitalogy is my favourite while No Code is one of my least favourites. I don't think more Stone or Jeff influence will make the band write songs which will satisfy RM. The only thing that will satisfy RM is time travel back to 94.

Release_Me wrote:

Mine wrote:

McParadigm wrote:

Mine wrote:

McParadigm wrote:The sooner they say it out loud, the sooner the healing can begin

They've been saying it out loud for 10 years after which they switched to "people have been telling us it's their favourite album for 10 years so we figured we shouldn't be talking shit about it in public anymore".

Yeah, they really fell silent on that one.

Any regrets?

Jeff Ament: Probably moreso on the Vitalogy or No Code era, I wish I had more time with those songs. Those records, Ed would show us a song and play it twice and that’s sort of what would end up going out there. Luckily you get to play those songs live and there’s lots of pretty good versions of those songs live.

Stone Gossard: You can kind of fix your part live if it’s pretty subtle. There’s things you can do to be better for some of those old songs where somebody wouldn’t necessarily pick up on it.

and funny how so many people who's favourite records are the 2 above are vehemently convinced the problem with PJ is not enough influence of those same Ament and Gossard.

Vitalogy is my favourite while No Code is one of my least favourites. I don't think more Stone or Jeff influence will make the band write songs which will satisfy RM. The only thing that will satisfy RM is time travel back to 94.

As far as Pearl Jam is concerned i think most people here are relatively satisfied with their output up to Binaural if not Riot Act.

My point was that it doesn't matter what the band does in 2014; it will never be to the liking of RM. But then I'm the guy who considers No Code-Riot Act the most boring sequence of albums in their catalogue.

Release_Me wrote:My point was that it doesn't matter what the band does in 2014; it will never be to the liking of RM.

This is a pretty fucking stupid assessment to make given how many people on this board love work done just as late (if not later) into their careers by artists like Bruce Springsteen, Tom Waits, Bob Dylan, Leonard Cohen, PJ Harvey, Prince, U2, Neil Young, etc.

People on this board have shown themselves to be very receptive to the idea of artists doing great things well after their commercial heyday has passed. It's not their fault Pearl Jam churns out mediocrity.

But then again, you have "Pearl Jam is the only band I'll spend money on" in your signature, which pretty much says everything that needs to be said about your opinion.

PJ is unlike those other names. They've always been heavily dependent on Ed. Ed circa 94 was acceptable here. He's not anymore. That alone is enough to prevent them making anything that RM can admit to unabashedly liking. This is my opinion. I don't care what you think of it.

And my signature is a statement of fact. It'd be pretty stupid of me to spend money on other bands when my country doesn't even receive original copies of any records. We only have pirated CDs here. I buy PJ's CDs just to make up my collection. Other music I download.

Release_Me wrote:This is my opinion. I don't care what you think of it.

This is a great way to protect yourself and your opinion. It establishes that, no matter what else there is and no matter how wrong you actually are, you never have to KNOW you're wrong. This can be very useful.

Save it and use it when you ask for a divorce. It can help you turn the whole thing into being your spouse's fault.

Lament wrote: People on this board have shown themselves to be very receptive to the idea of artists doing great things well after their commercial heyday has passed. It's not their fault Pearl Jam churns out mediocrity.

It has nothing to do with our perception either. Most of the band proudly admits they're (finally) far away from the Vitalogy - Binaural era when it comes to their music and how it comes about.
What i miss about their past output is the evocative quality their composition had. All the elements of the song worked together really well, everything sounded so appropriate. They seem to have since switched to a very simple rock sound when the sum of all the parts is of secondary importance. This has it's public admittedly and a lot of people are perfectly satisfied with just the riff, or the solo, or the caricature of a vocal performance etc. It's essentially a style/surface over substance approach which wasn't always the case for them.

Release_Me wrote:

Mine wrote:

McParadigm wrote:

Mine wrote:

McParadigm wrote:The sooner they say it out loud, the sooner the healing can begin

They've been saying it out loud for 10 years after which they switched to "people have been telling us it's their favourite album for 10 years so we figured we shouldn't be talking shit about it in public anymore".

Yeah, they really fell silent on that one.

Any regrets?

Jeff Ament: Probably moreso on the Vitalogy or No Code era, I wish I had more time with those songs. Those records, Ed would show us a song and play it twice and that’s sort of what would end up going out there. Luckily you get to play those songs live and there’s lots of pretty good versions of those songs live.

Stone Gossard: You can kind of fix your part live if it’s pretty subtle. There’s things you can do to be better for some of those old songs where somebody wouldn’t necessarily pick up on it.

and funny how so many people who's favourite records are the 2 above are vehemently convinced the problem with PJ is not enough influence of those same Ament and Gossard.

Vitalogy is my favourite while No Code is one of my least favourites. I don't think more Stone or Jeff influence will make the band write songs which will satisfy RM. The only thing that will satisfy RM is time travel back to 94.

I'd settle for 1999.

Lament wrote:

Release_Me wrote:My point was that it doesn't matter what the band does in 2014; it will never be to the liking of RM.

This is a pretty fucking stupid assessment to make given how many people on this board love work done just as late (if not later) into their careers by artists like Bruce Springsteen, Tom Waits, Bob Dylan, Leonard Cohen, PJ Harvey, Prince, U2, Neil Young, etc.

People on this board have shown themselves to be very receptive to the idea of artists doing great things well after their commercial heyday has passed. It's not their fault Pearl Jam churns out mediocrity.

But then again, you have "Pearl Jam is the only band I'll spend money on" in your signature, which pretty much says everything that needs to be said about your opinion.

Oh hey girl.

McParadigm wrote:

Release_Me wrote:This is my opinion. I don't care what you think of it.

This is a great way to protect yourself and your opinion. It establishes that, no matter what else there is and no matter how wrong you actually are, you never have to KNOW you're wrong. This can be very useful.

Save it and use it when you ask for a divorce. It can help you turn the whole thing into being your spouse's fault.

I don't need to protect myself or my opinion. An opinion is just that; it can be right or wrong. I've based mine on what's been posted on RM over a significantly long period of time. I'm just saying I couldn't care less if people here think it's a "fucking stupid assessment", because I tend to have very little in common with people here anyway.

P.S: Where I live, husbands don't ask for a divorce. They give one.

Release_Me wrote:

McParadigm wrote:

Release_Me wrote:This is my opinion. I don't care what you think of it.

This is a great way to protect yourself and your opinion. It establishes that, no matter what else there is and no matter how wrong you actually are, you never have to KNOW you're wrong. This can be very useful.

Save it and use it when you ask for a divorce. It can help you turn the whole thing into being your spouse's fault.

I don't need to protect myself or my opinion. An opinion is just that; it can be right or wrong. I've based mine on what's been posted on RM over a significantly long period of time. I'm just saying I couldn't care less if people here think it's a "fucking stupid assessment", because I tend to have very little in common with people here anyway.

P.S: Where I live, husbands don't ask for a divorce. They give one.

Release_Me wrote:PJ is unlike those other names. They've always been heavily dependent on Ed.

Right. Because Bruce Springsteen isn't dependent on Bruce Springsteen, or Tom Waits on Tom Waits, or Bob Dylan on Bob Dylan, or Leonard Cohen on Leonard Cohen, or PJ Harvey on PJ Harvey, or Prince on Prince, or Neil Young on Neil Young. None of those artists, most of whom are responsible for 100% of the writing/arranging on each of their records and in several cases all of the instrumentation and production as well, bear the weight of their entire project the was Ed does with Pearl Jam. I mean, Ed has to sing on like every song, and write words for a lot of them too. It's amazing he's able to carry that burden.

Lol

Is Pearl Jam more dependent on Ed than Burt Reynolds is on Burt Reynolds?

release_me is kind of dumb

Watch out, he might give you a divorce.

cutuphalfdead wrote:release_me is kind of dumb

Steady Chud. Misguided for sure.

Meanwhile Lament is being all kinds of adorable.

Does he live in Somalia?

BurtReynolds wrote:Does he live in Somalia?

I'm pretty sure he lives in Pakistan.