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Re: Robin Williams (July 21, 1951 – August 11, 2014)

Posted: Sun August 17, 2014 1:50 am
by numbers
Self wrote:
I am watching this now, it is incredible.

Re: Robin Williams (July 21, 1951 – August 11, 2014)

Posted: Sun August 17, 2014 9:31 am
by BurtReynolds
Has Eddie had an opportunity to drop his name yet?

Re: Robin Williams (July 21, 1951 – August 11, 2014)

Posted: Sun August 17, 2014 11:39 am
by numbers
Eddie was just scuba diving with him off the coast of Fiji, and he's really angry about the whole thing.

Re: Robin Williams (July 21, 1951 – August 11, 2014)

Posted: Sun August 17, 2014 12:03 pm
by numbers
numbers wrote:
Self wrote:
I am watching this now, it is incredible.
My favorite bits were the one where he was talking back to his son in the manner the son was acting, the drunken pilot, and the foreign dignitary he opened with. Also, the indifferent Frenchman.

Re: Robin Williams (July 21, 1951 – August 11, 2014)

Posted: Sun August 17, 2014 2:20 pm
by spike
BurtReynolds wrote:Has Eddie had an opportunity to drop his name yet?
he'll be wearing rainbow suspenders at every show this fall

Re: Robin Williams (July 21, 1951 – August 11, 2014)

Posted: Sun August 17, 2014 7:31 pm
by LoathedVermin72
VinylGuy wrote:The Marc Maron podcast is really nice.
Listening to this right now. Maron's intro is pretty poignant. He starts crying. Shit.

Re: Robin Williams (July 21, 1951 – August 11, 2014)

Posted: Mon August 18, 2014 5:23 pm
by Chris_H_2
Eddie Vedder: the Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson of musicians

Re: Robin Williams (July 21, 1951 – August 11, 2014)

Posted: Tue August 19, 2014 6:11 am
by Jorge
Self wrote:
Kind of poignant to see him singing lines from Pagliacci. The tragic clown. La commedia è finita.

Re: Robin Williams (July 21, 1951 – August 11, 2014)

Posted: Thu August 21, 2014 8:40 pm
by zeb

Re: Robin Williams (July 21, 1951 – August 11, 2014)

Posted: Thu August 21, 2014 9:17 pm
by Mecca
zeb wrote:Unexpected and disappointing: http://consequenceofsound.net/2014/08/h ... g-suicide/
at least he didn't call him a coward or selfish (directly)

Re: Robin Williams (July 21, 1951 – August 11, 2014)

Posted: Thu August 21, 2014 9:24 pm
by LoathedVermin72
zeb wrote:Unexpected and disappointing: http://consequenceofsound.net/2014/08/h ... g-suicide/
I get what he's saying and don't think he's completely wrong. But when there's a mental illness issue, such as depression, I'd say that's a bit of an extenuating circumstance.

Re: Robin Williams (July 21, 1951 – August 11, 2014)

Posted: Thu August 21, 2014 9:24 pm
by McParadigm
I can't really find a fault with any of that logic. Especially...
I think as soon as you have children, you waive your right to take your own life.
Unfortunately, rationality and emotion are rarely on good speaking terms.

Re: Robin Williams (July 21, 1951 – August 11, 2014)

Posted: Thu August 21, 2014 9:26 pm
by Jorge
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
zeb wrote:Unexpected and disappointing: http://consequenceofsound.net/2014/08/h ... g-suicide/
I get what he's saying and don't think he's completely wrong. But when there's a mental illness issue, such as depression, I'd say that's a bit of an extenuating circumstance.
That's exactly what it comes down to. Rollins comes across like someone who has absolutely no idea what depression and mental illness does to you.

Re: Robin Williams (July 21, 1951 – August 11, 2014)

Posted: Thu August 21, 2014 9:28 pm
by VinylGuy
well, its a sincere opinion.

Yeah, he has no idea of whats he is talking about.

Re: Robin Williams (July 21, 1951 – August 11, 2014)

Posted: Thu August 21, 2014 11:38 pm
by Kaius
He actually admits to never having felt depressed, which in theory would make him unable to empathize.

Although, I find his statement to be very hard to believe.

Re: Robin Williams (July 21, 1951 – August 11, 2014)

Posted: Thu August 21, 2014 11:39 pm
by @SkitchP

Re: Robin Williams (July 21, 1951 – August 11, 2014)

Posted: Fri August 22, 2014 10:52 am
by Birds in Hell
Mecca wrote:
zeb wrote:Unexpected and disappointing: http://consequenceofsound.net/2014/08/h ... g-suicide/
at least he didn't call him a coward or selfish (directly)
Suicide is unarguably profoundly selfish, surely?

I've struggled with thoughts of hopelessness more than I'd like to admit, and have lost dearly close friends to suicide, and I think Rollins is a great deal more right than he is wrong in that piece.

Link: 'Fuck Suicide.'

Re: Robin Williams (July 21, 1951 – August 11, 2014)

Posted: Fri August 22, 2014 10:56 am
by dimejinky99
Rollins has made a career out of being a contrarian. No surprises he'd take this stance but I think he's a tool for doing so.

Re: Robin Williams (July 21, 1951 – August 11, 2014)

Posted: Fri August 22, 2014 10:58 am
by Birds in Hell
(Edited my post above with a link to the original piece.)

Re: Robin Williams (July 21, 1951 – August 11, 2014)

Posted: Fri August 22, 2014 11:03 am
by LetMeSleep
A guy I work with has a daughter who has tried to take her life a few times over the last decade. He now says to her that it the most selfish act she can do and that it is in effect killing a part of the ones who care for her. He also has said that no matter how bad a situation (even involving him) she can just cut the crap and talk with him. That he will suspend any argument etc to just talk. Almost like having a safe word.

He swears his way is right and she hasn't tried recently.