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Re: What is Each Album's Major Flaw?: Vitalogy

Posted: Thu August 17, 2017 3:31 pm
by mikejasond
The greatest flaw is having to turn the album off quickly when you show it to people and pretend Immortality is the last song.

Re: What is Each Album's Major Flaw?: Vitalogy

Posted: Thu August 17, 2017 3:35 pm
by ABNorman
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Re: What is Each Album's Major Flaw?: Vitalogy

Posted: Thu August 17, 2017 3:36 pm
by ABNorman
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Re: What is Each Album's Major Flaw?: Vitalogy

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by ABNorman
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Re: What is Each Album's Major Flaw?: Vitalogy

Posted: Thu August 17, 2017 4:27 pm
by rick malone
mikejasond wrote:The greatest flaw is having to turn the album off quickly when you show it to people and pretend Immortality is the last song.
If Stupid Mop happens to come on in the company of friends I make a big display of breaking the CD to show I do not support this type of antisocial, outsider "music".

Re: What is Each Album's Major Flaw?: Vitalogy

Posted: Thu August 17, 2017 5:53 pm
by Leatherhead
rick malone wrote:
mikejasond wrote:The greatest flaw is having to turn the album off quickly when you show it to people and pretend Immortality is the last song.
If Stupid Mop happens to come on in the company of friends I make a big display of breaking the CD to show I do not support this type of antisocial, outsider "music".
:lol:

Re: What is Each Album's Major Flaw?: Vitalogy

Posted: Thu August 17, 2017 6:25 pm
by mikejasond
With me its just like *Immortality ends. Quickly turns off radio.*

"So that's the album, what'd you think?"

Re: What is Each Album's Major Flaw?: Vitalogy

Posted: Fri August 18, 2017 2:09 am
by PHATJ
If stupid mop comes on when I'm in the company of friends... I just murder everyone and burn the house down.

Re: What is Each Album's Major Flaw?: Vitalogy

Posted: Fri August 18, 2017 2:27 am
by stip
mikejasond wrote:The greatest flaw is having to turn the album off quickly when you show it to people and pretend Immortality is the last song.
man, isn't that just the worst

Re: What is Each Album's Major Flaw?: Vitalogy

Posted: Tue August 22, 2017 2:58 am
by PHATJ
Austen 3:16 wrote:I'm not one to be negatively impacted by "filler tracks," maybe it's a generational thing. I'm in my early twenties and grew up listening to a boat load of crappy rap albums with tons of filler tracks (skits, etc).
I've actually always liked the way Pry, To transitions into Corduroy, almost as if Pry, To is in fact directing you to Corduroy. I don't think Bugs was ever meant to be taken seriously in any way shape or form. Aye Davanita is cool as hell and provides a break in the action before the emotional Immortality. Stupid Mop, it is what it is. I don't think any PJ fans are putting it on their iTunes playlist, and it was never intended to be that kind of "song." Most of the time I just stop the track before it starts. But the fact that I never listen to it doesn't tarnish the overall image of the record, I don't count it as a flaw is what I'm saying. It's just kind of there.

The only thing that irks me about the record is that Satan's Bed was forced on without a real drum track (perhaps as a final "f u" to Dave A? Who knows). Satan's Bed is a great tune that, (and this would've been contrary to the band's (Ed's) seemingly ignorant stance on drumming at the time), could've been made even better with a more powerful and assertive sound from behind the kit.

Corduroy is, and always will be the ultimate Pearl Jam song. It combines their early work's propensity to make arena anthems with some punk sensibility. To me, Pearl Jam is a really good mainstream band that makes songs that are extremely sonically pleasing, full of pop sensibility, and yet rough around the edges, and more likely to go into a chunky solo than a lame hook. They're not completely artsy fartsy, they're not completely punk, and they're definitely not a pop group. They're a beautiful, aggressive fusion of all of those things. This album and specifically Corduroy completely captures that. It's fucking beautiful, that song. Other highlights for me are Last Exit and Not For You.
I just read this post, and I know it's from 1.5 years ago, but I just wanted to say that this was a good post and I wish A3:16 posted more often. :thumbsup:

Re: What is Each Album's Major Flaw?: Vitalogy

Posted: Tue August 22, 2017 3:41 am
by tragabigzanda
pearl jam sucks now

Re: What is Each Album's Major Flaw?: Vitalogy

Posted: Tue August 22, 2017 3:42 am
by tragabigzanda
pearl jam sucks now

Re: What is Each Album's Major Flaw?: Vitalogy

Posted: Tue August 22, 2017 4:45 am
by PHATJ
tragabigzanda wrote:Satan's Bed was an experiment recorded with one of the drum techs playing the part that got looped.
Yeah, Jimmy Shoaf, and Satan's Bed is rad. What's your point, trag?

Re: What is Each Album's Major Flaw?: Vitalogy

Posted: Tue August 22, 2017 4:48 am
by PHATJ
tragabigzanda wrote:Stupid Mop is awesome. You're a pussy if you can't vibe with this song once in a while.

This album is perfect in every way.
Vitalogy is my favorite PJ album. I love it. But Stupid Mop is as bottom tier as PJ gets. And I'm perfectly fine with anyone that doesn't like/get/care about it.

Re: What is Each Album's Major Flaw?: Vitalogy

Posted: Tue August 22, 2017 5:04 am
by tragabigzanda
pearl jam sucks now

Re: What is Each Album's Major Flaw?: Vitalogy

Posted: Tue August 22, 2017 5:28 am
by PHATJ
tragabigzanda wrote:
PHATJ wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:Satan's Bed was an experiment recorded with one of the drum techs playing the part that got looped.
Yeah, Jimmy Shoaf, and Satan's Bed is rad. What's your point, trag?
Austin 316 suggested it was a final F U to Dave, I was just tangentially responding to that.
Got it. :thumbsup:

Re: What is Each Album's Major Flaw?: Vitalogy

Posted: Tue August 22, 2017 7:33 pm
by bada
Jimmy Shoaf was their best drummer.

Re: What is Each Album's Major Flaw?: Vitalogy

Posted: Tue August 22, 2017 7:36 pm
by Jorge
That's why the true fans call him The Master

Re: What is Each Album's Major Flaw?: Vitalogy

Posted: Fri August 25, 2017 6:28 pm
by adamhewett
"stupid mop" contains vedder's biggest attempt at riffing with hammer-ons and pull-offs. big whoop.

Re: What is Each Album's Major Flaw?: Vitalogy

Posted: Fri August 25, 2017 9:23 pm
by rick malone
Is the intro to Last Exit taken from a Mono Men song? Thought I heard it once but damned if I want to listen to a bunch of Mono Men songs to confirm this.

Whipping is similar to The Mono Men's Stop Draggin Me Down(1990).