Re: 2016-08-07: Boston, Massachusetts
Posted: Thu August 25, 2016 7:10 pm
cutuphalfdead wrote:exactlytheplatypus wrote:What the fuckBi_3 wrote:If their sloppiness and technical failings ruin the live experience for you, that's on you
The aging both increases and decreases exponentially while living in a mountain town. Good luck.tragabigzanda wrote:Coping with PJ's aging is the same as coping with my own aging.
I can't tell if chad and I are having a Broment here or not.cutuphalfdead wrote:I love the attitude of "you guys are right, ed's enunciation does sound like shit, but it's your fault for paying any attention to it"Bi_3 wrote:This. If your enjoyment of 2016 Pearl Jam depends on Ed's enunciation, you are just going to end up being a miserable cunt about the whole tour.tragabigzanda wrote:I've hardly purchased a bootleg since 2000, apart from the few shows I've attended. But I was really happy with my purchase (free 10C download, technically) of Toronto 1 and Ontario from this tour. The band is on fire, and apart from the Jukebox Hits of the encore, the energy is sustained enough to make me feel connected to the show, so as to diminish the annoying Ed stuff considerably. What I'm trying to say is, there are some good listens to be had from this tour if you focus on the rest of the band.Bammer wrote:Sirius XM must have a free trial going or something right now because magically in the car this morning it worked.
The song I turned on to was Draw The Line. Not sure if it was Fenway 1 or 2, but the audio alone (without benefit of the visual/atmosphere of being at the show to go with it) made me want to pull an Aubrey McClendon and drive straight into a retaining wall at 70mph.
That was followed up by live cuts of Go and Breakerfall, which were clearly recent because Ed's voice is completely shot. There has been a lot of bitching about how Ed is drawing out the words. Like on Go, "shoulda pulled the allaa-haaarrmmm" and now that I hear it for myself, I see what all the ruckus is about. It sounds really bad. I guess I never notice it while I'm at a concert.
I picked up the Moline boot from a couple years ago because No Code all the way through is pretty cool, but realistically any recent boot is not worth the purchase. Someone alluded to Ed as the weak link in another thread. At the concert, not true. On the radio, absolutely true.
Yeah, how dare I pay attention to the sounds in music.
Ed's enunciation has nothing to do with age. It's a deliberate style choice.Bi_3 wrote:cutuphalfdead wrote:exactlytheplatypus wrote:What the fuckBi_3 wrote:If their sloppiness and technical failings ruin the live experience for you, that's on you
What I'm saying is if you listen to a post-2003 show demanding the same level of performance from over a decade ago, you will be disappointed. This shouldn't be news to anyone here, since that shit is brought up in nearly every thread in the Tour forum. I humbly suggest you re-calibrate your expectations to meet reality and move on or you're just going to be perpetually disappointed by everything they do. It is my belief that if you don't, you are allowing in that bias of "everything sucks now because PRAMG" and that turns out to be somewhat of a self-fulfilling prophecy, because you will notice Stone's oft untuned guitars or Ed's thinning voice before you allow yourself the chance to be taken into the moment that the bootleg captured. Basically, you can get stuck in the "it's not like the good old days" mentality and you prevent yourself from appreciating what they can still offer.
Probably because he can't hold notes anymore, due to age, and wear and tear.cutuphalfdead wrote:Ed's enunciation has nothing to do with age. It's a deliberate style choice.Bi_3 wrote:cutuphalfdead wrote:exactlytheplatypus wrote:What the fuckBi_3 wrote:If their sloppiness and technical failings ruin the live experience for you, that's on you
What I'm saying is if you listen to a post-2003 show demanding the same level of performance from over a decade ago, you will be disappointed. This shouldn't be news to anyone here, since that shit is brought up in nearly every thread in the Tour forum. I humbly suggest you re-calibrate your expectations to meet reality and move on or you're just going to be perpetually disappointed by everything they do. It is my belief that if you don't, you are allowing in that bias of "everything sucks now because PRAMG" and that turns out to be somewhat of a self-fulfilling prophecy, because you will notice Stone's oft untuned guitars or Ed's thinning voice before you allow yourself the chance to be taken into the moment that the bootleg captured. Basically, you can get stuck in the "it's not like the good old days" mentality and you prevent yourself from appreciating what they can still offer.
Yeah, I think it has everything to do with age.cutuphalfdead wrote:Ed's enunciation has nothing to do with age. It's a deliberate style choice.Bi_3 wrote:cutuphalfdead wrote:exactlytheplatypus wrote:What the fuckBi_3 wrote:If their sloppiness and technical failings ruin the live experience for you, that's on you
What I'm saying is if you listen to a post-2003 show demanding the same level of performance from over a decade ago, you will be disappointed. This shouldn't be news to anyone here, since that shit is brought up in nearly every thread in the Tour forum. I humbly suggest you re-calibrate your expectations to meet reality and move on or you're just going to be perpetually disappointed by everything they do. It is my belief that if you don't, you are allowing in that bias of "everything sucks now because PRAMG" and that turns out to be somewhat of a self-fulfilling prophecy, because you will notice Stone's oft untuned guitars or Ed's thinning voice before you allow yourself the chance to be taken into the moment that the bootleg captured. Basically, you can get stuck in the "it's not like the good old days" mentality and you prevent yourself from appreciating what they can still offer.
Booze and porn?tragabigzanda wrote:Coping with PJ's aging is the same as coping with my own aging.