Red Mosquito

I hope I'm not coming across more negatively than I intend to -- I had a great time and for the most part thought they were in excellent form.

I'm choosing to look at it this way: Barring the fact that a few of these songs weren't out yet, the main set and first encore of this show plus "YL" is pretty much exactly what a 2000 show would look like, and that's peak stuff for me. The stuff at the end is just lagniappe, and that which the 3hr. marathon hath wrought.

Kevin Davis wrote:I hope I'm not coming across more negatively than I intend to -- I had a great time and for the most part thought they were in excellent form.

I'm choosing to look at it this way: Barring the fact that a few of these songs weren't out yet, the main set and first encore of this show plus "YL" is pretty much exactly what a 2000 show would look like, and that's peak stuff for me. The stuff at the end is just lagniappe, and that which the 3hr. marathon hath wrought.

Band is pretty tight though, yea?

I thought so -- main set especially, and few if any noticeable lyrical stumbles. I like that he doesn't screw up "Immortality" like he used to.

"Comatose" felt a bit slower than usual -- lost some of its springloaded power, but gained a grungy looseness that I really liked. I know it's PRAMG stuff but I thought "Got Some" and "Comatose" back to back was a high point of the show.

Farmer John wrote:They played 28 original songs? This is getting ridiculous. More cover songs please.

Strangely appropriate street art right in front of me:




But in all seriousness, 5 of the last 9 were covers (6 of 10 if you count Time). It's a bit much for the last show of your 25th anniversary tour. Plus the Surrender/Alive/All the way run was an exact copy of Saturday. WGN promo reel and all.

For the diehards, Of The Earth, BRY and Don't Gimme No Lip and other Lost Dogs are exciting to see on a setlist. But if you think about the band's POV, how do you create a set that satisfies the people that have been with you for 25 years and yet give newbies a show they'll remember?

If I'm picking the set, you bet your ass Fatal, Red Mosquito, Other Side, Insignificance and etc are on there, but I imagine there's plenty of people who don't know those songs and would rather hear Jeremy, Given To Fly and Better Man in their place. A lot of the sets from the past couple years look like the band is meeting both groups of fans halfway.

ImOnTheInternet wrote:For the diehards, Of The Earth, BRY and Don't Gimme No Lip and other Lost Dogs are exciting to see on a setlist. But if you think about the band's POV, how do you create a set that satisfies the people that have been with you for 25 years and yet give newbies a show they'll remember?

If I'm picking the set, you bet your ass Fatal, Red Mosquito, Other Side, Insignificance and etc are on there, but I imagine there's plenty of people who don't know those songs and would rather hear Jeremy, Given To Fly and Better Man in their place. A lot of the sets from the past couple years look like the band is meeting both groups of fans halfway.

But that's thing with the covers. No crazy Mary, no RITFW, and all four of those would fit in

Kevin Davis wrote:I thought so -- main set especially, and few if any noticeable lyrical stumbles. I like that he doesn't screw up "Immortality" like he used to.

"Comatose" felt a bit slower than usual -- lost some of its springloaded power, but gained a grungy looseness that I really liked. I know it's PRAMG stuff but I thought "Got Some" and "Comatose" back to back was a high point of the show.

he totally screwed up immortality, but played it off well and the song didn't self destruct.

crazy mary felt shorter last night, which is fine by me.

spike wrote:crazy mary felt shorter last night, which is fine by me.

Did it have the boom/mike organ/guitar banter in it? That is usually what makes it take forever.

E.H. Ruddock wrote:

spike wrote:crazy mary felt shorter last night, which is fine by me.

Did it have the boom/mike organ/guitar banter in it? That is usually what makes it take forever.

of course, but it didn't go on forever.

spike wrote:

E.H. Ruddock wrote:

spike wrote:crazy mary felt shorter last night, which is fine by me.

Did it have the boom/mike organ/guitar banter in it? That is usually what makes it take forever.

of course, but it didn't go on forever.

I think Boom slid in a little Paint It Black during his solo. I liked that part.

I noticed a little "yadda ya--cial tears, vessel stabbed..." or something like that, an easy recovery. I was just thinking of those 2000 versions where the song essentially becomes an instrumental he forgets so many of the words.

Kevin Davis wrote:I noticed a little "yadda ya--cial tears, vessel stabbed..." or something like that, an easy recovery. I was just thinking of those 2000 versions where the song essentially becomes an instrumental he forgets so many of the words.

he misplaced one of the verses i think. third verse became the second kinda thing.

I guess his knee is feeling better

Kevin Davis wrote:I don't think I'll ever get used to the band using multiple slow songs to open their shows.

So much this. I long for the days of a nice Release/Last Exit one two punch.

cutuphalfdead wrote:

Kevin Davis wrote:I don't think I'll ever get used to the band using multiple slow songs to open their shows.

So much this. I long for the days of a nice Release/Last Exit one two punch.

I am so accustomed to that crash of adrenaline after the slow build that it's almost impossible for he second song not to be a letdown.

Man. I am going to listen to a 2000 show today.

Fuck the slow song opener at all. Get it going hard and fast right away (that's what she said, etc.).

E.H. Ruddock wrote:Fuck the slow song opener at all. Get it going hard and fast right away (that's what she said, etc.).

I like a little foreplay.