Re: Let's All Laugh at Pitchfork
Posted: Thu March 09, 2017 11:23 pm
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Team KD.Kevin Davis wrote:I actually think their lack of a comments section is a credit to them. They used to have a "reader mail" section back in the day; to me that is more akin to the kind of thing you're talking about with the Washington Post, etc. I wish all online publications would do away with comments sections. They're almost uniformly awful.
I'm sorry, why? Can you elaborate?tragabigzanda wrote:I think the stance works if the writing is uniquely good -- the defunct Grantland is a good example. Even Vulture, whose writers I find to be talented and insightful (more often than not) allows comments. But Pitchfork's writers read like a bunch of Gawker castaways, so in that instance I think the stance is ridiculous.Kevin Davis wrote:I actually think their lack of a comments section is a credit to them. They used to have a "reader mail" section back in the day; to me that is more akin to the kind of thing you're talking about with the Washington Post, etc. I wish all online publications would do away with comments sections. They're almost uniformly awful.
I don't disagree that "cool/not cool" is a pretty limited and idiotic way to discuss/perceive music. What I don't understand is what any of that has to do with a comments section. Why does Pitchfork have a responsibility to allow space for any discussion? I see zero reason why any publication, regardless of how I view their quality or lack thereof, has that kind of responsibility. I mean, unless you're talking about RM or similar message boards (I mean, duh). But I guess I don't see what the quality of Pitchfork's writing has to do with whether or not they owe the public a comments/interactive section. That makes no sense to me.tragabigzanda wrote:Because they're largely (though not completely) a bunch of early-to-mid twenty somethings who write as though they understand music with a certain authority. They fetishize certain trends because of their overt intellectualism or rarity, and they turn their nose up at acts because of their mainstream popularity (PJ being one example). I held similar views on music in my 20s. But now I can appreciate an AC/DC or Fleetwood Mac every bit as much as a Floating Points or Kendrick Lamar. And I suppose everyone comes to those sorts of realizations at their own pace. But Pitchfork doesn't allow the space to have those discussions. They tend to position music in terms of "cool" and "not cool." Which is just an idiotic way of viewing the world, IMO.durdencommatyler wrote:I'm sorry, why? Can you elaborate?tragabigzanda wrote:I think the stance works if the writing is uniquely good -- the defunct Grantland is a good example. Even Vulture, whose writers I find to be talented and insightful (more often than not) allows comments. But Pitchfork's writers read like a bunch of Gawker castaways, so in that instance I think the stance is ridiculous.Kevin Davis wrote:I actually think their lack of a comments section is a credit to them. They used to have a "reader mail" section back in the day; to me that is more akin to the kind of thing you're talking about with the Washington Post, etc. I wish all online publications would do away with comments sections. They're almost uniformly awful.