The band's biggest mistake

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I dunno, maybe they need to start taking more drugs
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stip wrote:Pearl Jam hasn't roadtested material for 3/4ths of their career though. I guess everything still could have been better either way...
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fishbob wrote:I dunno, maybe they need to start taking more drugs
Couldn't hurt.
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WtOB? wrote:
stip wrote:Pearl Jam hasn't roadtested material for 3/4ths of their career though. I guess everything still could have been better either way...
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What they really should've kept is "The Fixer"'s original title, "Anal Fissure".
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stip wrote:Otherwise they seem to try and play the songs that create the best possible concert experience. That's not pandering.
Yes. Yes, it is.
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Eddie also road-tested Can't Keep, I Am Mine and Thumbing My Way at solo shows before Riot Act was released. The whole band played I Am Mine in 2001 a couple of times, too.
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The End and Speed of Sound were played by Eddie before Crapspacer came out too.
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theplatypus wrote:
stip wrote:Otherwise they seem to try and play the songs that create the best possible concert experience. That's not pandering.
Yes. Yes, it is.
"Hey, they're just trying to please the greatest number of people the greatest amount of the time. That isn't pandering at all!"
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Of the Earth.
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WtOB? wrote:Of the Earth.
That was one of the only great things they've done in the last few years.
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yeah, a few more than I thought, although I wouldn't count Eddie shows (and if we are then I guess they road test quite a bit)
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theplatypus wrote:
stip wrote:Otherwise they seem to try and play the songs that create the best possible concert experience. That's not pandering.
Yes. Yes, it is.
No, no it isn't. It would be pandering if they were sick of those songs and didn't feel like playing them anymore, or, if by playing them, they were not doing what they wanted to do. If Pearl Jam likes playing the songs that they play, and that the songs they don't play they tend to not play because they either don't enjoy them as much or find that the songs detract from the concert experience they want to create that's not pandering.
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stip wrote:
theplatypus wrote:
stip wrote:Otherwise they seem to try and play the songs that create the best possible concert experience. That's not pandering.
Yes. Yes, it is.
No, not it isn't. It would be pandering if they were sick of those songs and didn't feel like playing them anymore, or, if by playing them, they were not doing what they wanted to do. If Pearl Jam likes playing the songs that they play, and that the songs they don't play they tend to not play because they either don't enjoy them as much or find that the songs detract from the concert experience they want to create that's not pandering.
Don't make me dig out that quote from the PJ20 outtakes where Ed says he wishes they could be more like Neil Young and play whatever they want without worrying what the fans will think.
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stip wrote:
theplatypus wrote:
stip wrote:Otherwise they seem to try and play the songs that create the best possible concert experience. That's not pandering.
Yes. Yes, it is.
No, not it isn't. It would be pandering if they were sick of those songs and didn't feel like playing them anymore, or, if by playing them, they were not doing what they wanted to do. If Pearl Jam likes playing the songs that they play, and that the songs they don't play they tend to not play because they either don't enjoy them as much or find that the songs detract from the concert experience they want to create that's not pandering.
Given the 'enthusiasm' they show for such setlist staples as Evenflow I would argue they don't enjoy some songs anymore. Playing some of those tunes a million miles an hour kind of screams 'lets just get this over with' too....
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They should write some new songs people will like, it would fix a lot of problems...
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theplatypus wrote:
stip wrote:
theplatypus wrote:
stip wrote:Otherwise they seem to try and play the songs that create the best possible concert experience. That's not pandering.
Yes. Yes, it is.
No, not it isn't. It would be pandering if they were sick of those songs and didn't feel like playing them anymore, or, if by playing them, they were not doing what they wanted to do. If Pearl Jam likes playing the songs that they play, and that the songs they don't play they tend to not play because they either don't enjoy them as much or find that the songs detract from the concert experience they want to create that's not pandering.
Don't make me dig out that quote from the PJ20 outtakes where Ed says he wishes they could be more like Neil Young and play whatever they want without worrying what the fans will think.
that would certainly shut me partially up
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stip wrote:
theplatypus wrote:
stip wrote:
theplatypus wrote:
stip wrote:Otherwise they seem to try and play the songs that create the best possible concert experience. That's not pandering.
Yes. Yes, it is.
No, not it isn't. It would be pandering if they were sick of those songs and didn't feel like playing them anymore, or, if by playing them, they were not doing what they wanted to do. If Pearl Jam likes playing the songs that they play, and that the songs they don't play they tend to not play because they either don't enjoy them as much or find that the songs detract from the concert experience they want to create that's not pandering.
Don't make me dig out that quote from the PJ20 outtakes where Ed says he wishes they could be more like Neil Young and play whatever they want without worrying what the fans will think.
that would certainly shut me partially up
he definitely says that. that was one of the most disappointing things to come out of that documentary.
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dprival78 wrote:
stip wrote:
theplatypus wrote:
stip wrote:
theplatypus wrote:
stip wrote:Otherwise they seem to try and play the songs that create the best possible concert experience. That's not pandering.
Yes. Yes, it is.
No, not it isn't. It would be pandering if they were sick of those songs and didn't feel like playing them anymore, or, if by playing them, they were not doing what they wanted to do. If Pearl Jam likes playing the songs that they play, and that the songs they don't play they tend to not play because they either don't enjoy them as much or find that the songs detract from the concert experience they want to create that's not pandering.
Don't make me dig out that quote from the PJ20 outtakes where Ed says he wishes they could be more like Neil Young and play whatever they want without worrying what the fans will think.
that would certainly shut me partially up
he definitely says that. that was one of the most disappointing things to come out of that documentary.
It's true.
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When Mccready shit himself on stage.
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