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Re: Mind Your Manners
Posted: Sat July 13, 2013 4:43 am
by harmless
VinylGuy wrote:i like it more with every new listen.
I left it for a few hours, came back, went from 'Yeah, I like it a lot actually' to 'Holy shit this is actually awesome.'
And that's in spite of everything I don't love about it, which is all still there.
Re: Mind Your Manners
Posted: Sat July 13, 2013 4:45 am
by harmless
dkfan9 wrote:guitars sound like s/t
It's a blend of S/T and Backspacer I think. The lead guitar is still shiny and Backspacer-ish, but the rhythm guitar is more raw.
Re: Mind Your Manners
Posted: Sat July 13, 2013 4:47 am
by dkfan9
harmless wrote:dkfan9 wrote:guitars sound like s/t
It's a blend of S/T and Backspacer I think. The lead guitar is still shiny and Backspacer-ish, but the rhythm guitar is more raw.
yep, i'd agree with that
Re: Mind Your Manners
Posted: Sat July 13, 2013 4:49 am
by harmless
BoltofLightning wrote:I've got an unfortunate feeling
I've been beaten down
I feel I'm done believing and
Now the truth is coming out
What they're taking is more than a bow
They've taken young innocence and then they throw it on a burning pile
Well, I am no longer saying
Mind Your Manners
I caught myself believing
That I needed God
And if he's out there somewhere
We sure could use him now
Tried my patience
My patience tried
This world's no longer good enough, makes me want to cry
Well, I am no longer saying
Mind your manners
Some are saying
Self realized and metaphysically redeemed
May not live another life
May not solve a mystery
Right around the corner could be bigger than ourselves
We could will it to the sky
Or we could something else
No longer saying
Mind your manners
Always praying
Self realized and metaphysically redeemed
May not live another life
May not solve a mystery
Right around the corner could be bigger than ourselves
We could will it to the sky
Or we could something else
Go to heaven!
That's swell!
Hope you like your
Living hell!
Go to heaven!
That's swell!
Hope you like your
Living hell!
Go to heaven!
That's swell!
Hope you like your
Living hell!
LIVING HELL!
I now think it's:
"While all along they're saying / 'Mind your manners.' / That's all I'm saying.'"
And at the end it's "How do you like your / Living hell?"
Re: Mind Your Manners
Posted: Sat July 13, 2013 4:50 am
by spike
this is my favorite eddie vocal since binaural era.
Re: Mind Your Manners
Posted: Sat July 13, 2013 4:53 am
by harmless
I'm really finding the "GO TO HEAVEN, THAT'S SWELL..." section to be the most *fun* / least embarrassing *fun* repetitive section since... for a long time.
Re: Mind Your Manners
Posted: Sat July 13, 2013 4:54 am
by VinylGuy
spike wrote:this is my favorite eddie vocal since binaural era.
i agree.
Re: Mind Your Manners
Posted: Sat July 13, 2013 4:55 am
by harmless
spike wrote:this is my favorite eddie vocal since binaural era.
It's really quite reminiscent of both Brain of J and DTE. How cool would it be to get a DTE-style video? I doubt we will but I can dream.
I had another possible WTF "lightning bolt" revelation last night, about Backspacer, but I'm not sure I'm ready to make it public yet.
Re: Mind Your Manners
Posted: Sat July 13, 2013 4:57 am
by spike
harmless wrote:spike wrote:this is my favorite eddie vocal since binaural era.
It's really quite reminiscent of both Brain of J and DTE. How cool would it be to get a DTE-style video? I doubt we will but I can dream.
I had another possible WTF "lightning bolt" revelation last night, about Backspacer, but I'm not sure I'm ready to make it public yet.
this is a safe place, friend.
Re: Mind Your Manners
Posted: Sat July 13, 2013 4:59 am
by spike
i also enjoy the guitar solo; it's not wanky.
Re: Mind Your Manners
Posted: Sat July 13, 2013 5:02 am
by harmless
spike wrote:harmless wrote:spike wrote:this is my favorite eddie vocal since binaural era.
It's really quite reminiscent of both Brain of J and DTE. How cool would it be to get a DTE-style video? I doubt we will but I can dream.
I had another possible WTF "lightning bolt" revelation last night, about Backspacer, but I'm not sure I'm ready to make it public yet.
this is a safe place, friend.
It's more specifically about the Richard Cheese-style Fixer video.
Listening to this song and looking at the concepts which seem to be surfacing around "Lightning Bolt", I'm now wondering whether the whole Fixer Target video was a... fun, silly, not-to-be-taken-seriously, deliberately-ham-fisted and terribly executed joke. Maybe Pearl Jam found it hilarious to make. Can someone view it again with that mindset and see if there's any chance I'm right?
Re: Mind Your Manners
Posted: Sat July 13, 2013 5:02 am
by harmless
I don't wanna watch it myself.
Re: Mind Your Manners
Posted: Sat July 13, 2013 5:03 am
by rickson
How could anyone compare this to Brain of J? C mon. This is an average "funny" song.
I hate this type of Pearl Jam. They just don´t get that this "i´ll make music like the music of my favorite bands" doesn´t work at all. Every time they try to hard, they fail. Pearl Jam has been with a lack of personality since Riot Act. That was the last real album. Maybe it wasn´t that good but it did have character and it was unique. The last two, and seems like this one is not going any further, were like a compilation of sound that the guys think that "is cool". And that´s it. There is no urgency or need to create. And that is crap.
Probably I´m just to old school. But this was my favorite band because there was something about them that did matter. Not anymore.
Re: Mind Your Manners
Posted: Sat July 13, 2013 5:08 am
by harmless
rickson wrote:How could anyone compare this to Brain of J? C mon. This is an average "funny" song.
I don't recognise you. I wasn't comparing the song to Brain of J, I was comparing the vocal style to Brain of J. But just to humour you, I'm going to tell you that the guitar riff, coupled with the vocal, is very much like Brain of J. I don't necessarily care what the overall emotional impression of the song is, the fact is that musically, it's not unsimilar to Brain of J.
Re: Mind Your Manners
Posted: Sat July 13, 2013 5:08 am
by WtOB?
harmless wrote:spike wrote:harmless wrote:spike wrote:this is my favorite eddie vocal since binaural era.
It's really quite reminiscent of both Brain of J and DTE. How cool would it be to get a DTE-style video? I doubt we will but I can dream.
I had another possible WTF "lightning bolt" revelation last night, about Backspacer, but I'm not sure I'm ready to make it public yet.
this is a safe place, friend.
It's more specifically about the Richard Cheese-style Fixer video.
Listening to this song and looking at the concepts which seem to be surfacing around "Lightning Bolt", I'm now wondering whether the whole Fixer Target video was a... fun, silly, not-to-be-taken-seriously, deliberately-ham-fisted and terribly executed joke. Maybe Pearl Jam found it hilarious to make. Can someone view it again with that mindset and see if there's any chance I'm right?
Nah, I don't think they were like "lol guys we just made a bunch of money but as a jk.". Sorry harmy.
Re: Mind Your Manners
Posted: Sat July 13, 2013 5:09 am
by WtOB?
Some of the vocals remind me a little of Go.
Re: Mind Your Manners
Posted: Sat July 13, 2013 5:09 am
by harmless
I can almost sing "Whoooose got the brain of J and... etc." as this song begins. How could anyone *not* see that?
Re: Mind Your Manners
Posted: Sat July 13, 2013 5:10 am
by harmless
WtOB? wrote:harmless wrote:spike wrote:harmless wrote:spike wrote:this is my favorite eddie vocal since binaural era.
It's really quite reminiscent of both Brain of J and DTE. How cool would it be to get a DTE-style video? I doubt we will but I can dream.
I had another possible WTF "lightning bolt" revelation last night, about Backspacer, but I'm not sure I'm ready to make it public yet.
this is a safe place, friend.
It's more specifically about the Richard Cheese-style Fixer video.
Listening to this song and looking at the concepts which seem to be surfacing around "Lightning Bolt", I'm now wondering whether the whole Fixer Target video was a... fun, silly, not-to-be-taken-seriously, deliberately-ham-fisted and terribly executed joke. Maybe Pearl Jam found it hilarious to make. Can someone view it again with that mindset and see if there's any chance I'm right?
Nah, I don't think they were like "lol guys we just made a bunch of money but as a jk.". Sorry harmy.
Nah, it's OK. You're right. It was stupid.
Re: Mind Your Manners
Posted: Sat July 13, 2013 5:13 am
by harmless
rickson wrote:How could anyone compare this to Brain of J? C mon. This is an average "funny" song.
I hate this type of Pearl Jam. They just don´t get that this "i´ll make music like the music of my favorite bands" doesn´t work at all. Every time they try to hard, they fail. Pearl Jam has been with a lack of personality since Riot Act. That was the last real album. Maybe it wasn´t that good but it did have character and it was unique. The last two, and seems like this one is not going any further, were like a compilation of sound that the guys think that "is cool". And that´s it. There is no urgency or need to create. And that is crap.
Probably I´m just to old school. But this was my favorite band because there was something about them that did matter. Not anymore.
Also, incidentally, on my first few listens to Riot Act (an album I'm pretty much in love with), I was like 'Not very original, a bit derivative, but I like it. Let's see how this grows.' I had the same feeling for Yield. I didn't for Binaural but that's because I mostly hated it for years.
So you know, what I've realised is that my "Meh" feeling in hearing new PJ is not a new thing. It's followed me right through their career.
Re: Mind Your Manners
Posted: Sat July 13, 2013 5:15 am
by stip
harmless wrote:WtOB? wrote:harmless wrote:spike wrote:harmless wrote:spike wrote:this is my favorite eddie vocal since binaural era.
It's really quite reminiscent of both Brain of J and DTE. How cool would it be to get a DTE-style video? I doubt we will but I can dream.
I had another possible WTF "lightning bolt" revelation last night, about Backspacer, but I'm not sure I'm ready to make it public yet.
this is a safe place, friend.
It's more specifically about the Richard Cheese-style Fixer video.
Listening to this song and looking at the concepts which seem to be surfacing around "Lightning Bolt", I'm now wondering whether the whole Fixer Target video was a... fun, silly, not-to-be-taken-seriously, deliberately-ham-fisted and terribly executed joke. Maybe Pearl Jam found it hilarious to make. Can someone view it again with that mindset and see if there's any chance I'm right?
Nah, I don't think they were like "lol guys we just made a bunch of money but as a jk.". Sorry harmy.
Nah, it's OK. You're right. It was stupid.
I think it's pretty clear that they're not really taking the video seriously (or that it's meant to be a bit fun and silly). Deliberately ham fisted I couldn't say. Probably not.