Red Mosquito

Ello Sailor wrote:

contamination wrote:It seems that not much effort was put into many of the Machina II songs. Many of them don't sound much different from the original "bootleg".

Great post, but I couldn't disagree more with this. The improved clarity is super noticeable on 95% of M2 tracks.

Maybe you need more time with it on quality headphones.

Ok yeah I was exaggerating. They are definitely cleaner versions and there's more clarity, but other than that e.g. Slow Dawn isn't really that different from the original M2 version.

But I don't really know what I expected. Maybe that they'll do more production tricks on these and we'll get totally revamped versions. But maybe it's good they didn't. At least if it had meant more modern Corgan vocals.

"Slow Dawn" sounds way better. I don't think we're listening to the same thing.

Ello Sailor wrote:"Slow Dawn" sounds way better. I don't think we're listening to the same thing.

Fairly certain you are.

Simple Torture wrote:Would love a non-deluxe vinyl edition without the fancy packaging and demos for us poor; it’d probably still be 4xLPs and over $150, but I could dig that.

Everyone is dunking on the packaging. It's hardly fancy.

The music rules, but I'm glad I didn't pay $400 for this.

The new YUNGBLOOD/Pumpkins song sounds like Hoobastank or some shit. It's ridiculous. Billy's verse vocals are nice, which feels weird to type, but that's about it!

Really enjoyed this conversation. Melissa has a bit of wackadoo-New-Age-auntie energy, but I really enjoyed getting her thoughts and perspective.
Also Billy's constant "let me finish" is hilarious.

Yeah i wanna see that one

"Let me just finish my little spiel"

"Let me finish"

"STOP"



He's such a dickhead. Great chat though. I had no idea she was a superfan. I thought she hated him lmao.

Nice to see MADM palling around with Corgan and Courtney Love lately. There are rumblings about her possibly going on tour with the latter, which I would go see.

I love Hole but isn't Courtney absolutely awful live? Or is that just when she's wasted?

They've always been a studio band to me.

I saw a solo show of hers in 2013 and it was great. And word has it she is finally sober now.

LoathedVermin72 wrote:Nice to see MADM palling around with Corgan and Courtney Love lately.

Quite the throuple.

I think her voice is totally shot. I would love to see Melissa play with the pumpkins live on tour someday.

I am surprised she is on good terms with Billy

Surprised with the band being a headliner in Lolla Chicago.

yeah, i was surprised to see Anthony at hid bday and holding the cake! Marilyn Manson was also there but they have toured together a lot in 2017 so that made more sense

He's friends with our fav pedos. Hooray. Good music.

Corey Feldman and Danny Elfman were also there. So, yeah tough crowd.

Gavin's face looks tight

Billy did a podcast with Courtney Love and of course its a mess but it had interesting moments.

I enjoyed the moment were they both trash Kim Gordon.