Red Mosquito

wilkins wrote:So Letterman was debunked?

wilkins wrote:So Letterman was debunked?

Release_Me wrote:There's nothing in that Wrigley performance which shows Ed struggling with LB. He pretty much nails everything except the outro where he goes off his game after getting mad at Mike. Singing high while 'straining' as you say is a stylistic choice. That gritty tone requires a certain amount of straining but LB is not the top of Ed's range. Ed's always done the gritty screams because they sound bad-ass and that goes with the style of most of PJ's rockers. Singing high in a clean voice is more metal, especially in the fifth octave. Ed has no issues going upto A4 (In Hiding, Present Tense, Yellow Ledbetter, etc.) in a clean voice. He has also sung a very clean and impressive Bb4 in a live version of Arc from 2009. So within the upper fourth octave, it's a stylistic choice. Not many PJ songs ever go higher than that anyway. An exception is the clean D5 in Dissident (studio) which I've heard him replicate live once in 2003 (that's a difficult one). When Ed screams 'Loooove' in LROM, that's pretty much near the top of his range. Those are also D5s, very powerful but gritty. It's a stylistic thing as well as a skill thing when he sings that high. He hasn't honed the skill of singing clean fifth octave notes ala Cornell, but he can sure as hell scream them.

evenslow wrote:

Release_Me wrote:There's nothing in that Wrigley performance which shows Ed struggling with LB. He pretty much nails everything except the outro where he goes off his game after getting mad at Mike. Singing high while 'straining' as you say is a stylistic choice. That gritty tone requires a certain amount of straining but LB is not the top of Ed's range. Ed's always done the gritty screams because they sound bad-ass and that goes with the style of most of PJ's rockers. Singing high in a clean voice is more metal, especially in the fifth octave. Ed has no issues going upto A4 (In Hiding, Present Tense, Yellow Ledbetter, etc.) in a clean voice. He has also sung a very clean and impressive Bb4 in a live version of Arc from 2009. So within the upper fourth octave, it's a stylistic choice. Not many PJ songs ever go higher than that anyway. An exception is the clean D5 in Dissident (studio) which I've heard him replicate live once in 2003 (that's a difficult one). When Ed screams 'Loooove' in LROM, that's pretty much near the top of his range. Those are also D5s, very powerful but gritty. It's a stylistic thing as well as a skill thing when he sings that high. He hasn't honed the skill of singing clean fifth octave notes ala Cornell, but he can sure as hell scream them.

I know this is from 5 pages ago but it's nice to hear a critique from someone who knows what they're talking about.

wilkins wrote:So Letterman was debunked?

Mirella wrote:

blueviper wrote:

Mirella wrote:

blueviper wrote:

gems and rhinestones wrote:Well that sucks, no Pearl Jam on Letterman 10/8

Which one of you photo-shopped that tv guide picture?

Moi.

I was wondering when that would be debunked.

That is plain mean Maybe you can go and post on the Bugs mailinglist Facebook page and apologise for it. Link is in my sig.

groetjes,
Mirella

Yikes! Sorry! All in good fun!

Now the only thing you can do to make up for this is make them play there on the 8th

groetjes,
Mirella (we got lots of visitors because of that 'news', so it's all good)

evenslow wrote:

Release_Me wrote:There's nothing in that Wrigley performance which shows Ed struggling with LB. He pretty much nails everything except the outro where he goes off his game after getting mad at Mike. Singing high while 'straining' as you say is a stylistic choice. That gritty tone requires a certain amount of straining but LB is not the top of Ed's range. Ed's always done the gritty screams because they sound bad-ass and that goes with the style of most of PJ's rockers. Singing high in a clean voice is more metal, especially in the fifth octave. Ed has no issues going upto A4 (In Hiding, Present Tense, Yellow Ledbetter, etc.) in a clean voice. He has also sung a very clean and impressive Bb4 in a live version of Arc from 2009. So within the upper fourth octave, it's a stylistic choice. Not many PJ songs ever go higher than that anyway. An exception is the clean D5 in Dissident (studio) which I've heard him replicate live once in 2003 (that's a difficult one). When Ed screams 'Loooove' in LROM, that's pretty much near the top of his range. Those are also D5s, very powerful but gritty. It's a stylistic thing as well as a skill thing when he sings that high. He hasn't honed the skill of singing clean fifth octave notes ala Cornell, but he can sure as hell scream them.

I know this is from 5 pages ago but it's nice to hear a critique from someone who knows what they're talking about. More of this. I'm expecting a song by song review of the vocals on LB by the way.

harmless wrote:

evenslow wrote:

Release_Me wrote:There's nothing in that Wrigley performance which shows Ed struggling with LB. He pretty much nails everything except the outro where he goes off his game after getting mad at Mike. Singing high while 'straining' as you say is a stylistic choice. That gritty tone requires a certain amount of straining but LB is not the top of Ed's range. Ed's always done the gritty screams because they sound bad-ass and that goes with the style of most of PJ's rockers. Singing high in a clean voice is more metal, especially in the fifth octave. Ed has no issues going upto A4 (In Hiding, Present Tense, Yellow Ledbetter, etc.) in a clean voice. He has also sung a very clean and impressive Bb4 in a live version of Arc from 2009. So within the upper fourth octave, it's a stylistic choice. Not many PJ songs ever go higher than that anyway. An exception is the clean D5 in Dissident (studio) which I've heard him replicate live once in 2003 (that's a difficult one). When Ed screams 'Loooove' in LROM, that's pretty much near the top of his range. Those are also D5s, very powerful but gritty. It's a stylistic thing as well as a skill thing when he sings that high. He hasn't honed the skill of singing clean fifth octave notes ala Cornell, but he can sure as hell scream them.

I know this is from 5 pages ago but it's nice to hear a critique from someone who knows what they're talking about.

evenslow wrote:

harmless wrote:

evenslow wrote:

Release_Me wrote:There's nothing in that Wrigley performance which shows Ed struggling with LB. He pretty much nails everything except the outro where he goes off his game after getting mad at Mike. Singing high while 'straining' as you say is a stylistic choice. That gritty tone requires a certain amount of straining but LB is not the top of Ed's range. Ed's always done the gritty screams because they sound bad-ass and that goes with the style of most of PJ's rockers. Singing high in a clean voice is more metal, especially in the fifth octave. Ed has no issues going upto A4 (In Hiding, Present Tense, Yellow Ledbetter, etc.) in a clean voice. He has also sung a very clean and impressive Bb4 in a live version of Arc from 2009. So within the upper fourth octave, it's a stylistic choice. Not many PJ songs ever go higher than that anyway. An exception is the clean D5 in Dissident (studio) which I've heard him replicate live once in 2003 (that's a difficult one). When Ed screams 'Loooove' in LROM, that's pretty much near the top of his range. Those are also D5s, very powerful but gritty. It's a stylistic thing as well as a skill thing when he sings that high. He hasn't honed the skill of singing clean fifth octave notes ala Cornell, but he can sure as hell scream them.

I know this is from 5 pages ago but it's nice to hear a critique from someone who knows what they're talking about.

This was unkind of you, especially considering I'm the President of the Make Harmless Write a Drum Review campaign.

Release_Me covers vox.
Harmless covers drums.
McP can do production.
Who's got the expertise to talk guitars/bass?

I've got Boom covered.

harmless wrote:You can't put me in a box like this, I refuse to be typecast.

dprival78 wrote:

wilkins wrote:So Letterman was debunked?

no. they'll be appearing and debuting "billy billy microp_nis"

Thejambi wrote:

wilkins wrote:So Letterman was debunked?

Turns out Dave's song was Go after all.

hlniv wrote:

Thejambi wrote:

wilkins wrote:So Letterman was debunked?

Turns out Dave's song was Go after all.

I'm not sure this was ever proven. How do we know Dave's Song is Go?

evenslow wrote: I've got Boom covered.

ABNorman wrote:

hlniv wrote:

Thejambi wrote:

wilkins wrote:So Letterman was debunked?

Turns out Dave's song was Go after all.

I'm not sure this was ever proven. How do we know Dave's Song is Go?

Stop.

ABNorman wrote:

hlniv wrote:

Thejambi wrote:

wilkins wrote:So Letterman was debunked?

Turns out Dave's song was Go after all.

I'm not sure this was ever proven. How do we know Dave's Song is Go?

Stop.

hlniv wrote:

ABNorman wrote:

hlniv wrote:

Thejambi wrote:

wilkins wrote:So Letterman was debunked?

Turns out Dave's song was Go after all.

I'm not sure this was ever proven. How do we know Dave's Song is Go?

Stop.

No, man, I think it was Go.

That's not the same song as Stop.

hlniv wrote:

evenslow wrote: I've got Boom covered.

That's got to be hard to, you know, with his extreme height, large torso, and the size of his fingers and all.