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Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Fri June 26, 2020 5:00 pm
by Mickey
Also "the economy" is not a real, material thing but a discursive object which can be tailored to whatever needs of the person deploying it. That'd probably be the best argument against Trump's economy being objectively "good."
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Fri June 26, 2020 5:01 pm
by Superblood Wolfmoon
LOL @ “debating” a Trump supporter.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Fri June 26, 2020 5:01 pm
by tragabigzanda
Limiting the spread of infectious diseases by listening to scientific experts, and modeling appropriate behavior, rather than politicizing a pandemic and denying its growing danger.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Fri June 26, 2020 5:10 pm
by Strat
Lol at the economy being good when shutting down for 2 weeks puts long standing community businesses out for good. And lol at the economy being good when people can’t sustain a decent living when they don’t work for 2-4 weeks.
It’s all a fucking farce.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Fri June 26, 2020 5:12 pm
by tree_
What's the argument for pre-pandemic economy, though?
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Fri June 26, 2020 5:13 pm
by Mickey
Strat just gave it to you bub.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Fri June 26, 2020 5:14 pm
by Mickey
To put it two ways:
Mickey wrote:Also "the economy" is not a real, material thing but a discursive object which can be tailored to whatever needs of the person deploying it. That'd probably be the best argument against Trump's economy being objectively "good."
Strat wrote:Lol at the economy being good when shutting down for 2 weeks puts long standing community businesses out for good. And lol at the economy being good when people can’t sustain a decent living when they don’t work for 2-4 weeks.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Fri June 26, 2020 5:14 pm
by Strat
tree_ wrote:What's the argument for pre-pandemic economy, though?
It’s a long slow climb to the middle. Nobody is successful. It’s all for the ultra rich. And they’re all pedophiles.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Fri June 26, 2020 5:17 pm
by tree_
He was sayinghow it was a big achievement of his to bring jobs back to the US. Does this hold any water or is he misinformed?
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Fri June 26, 2020 5:18 pm
by McParadigm
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Fri June 26, 2020 5:18 pm
by tragabigzanda
Strat wrote:tree_ wrote:What's the argument for pre-pandemic economy, though?
It’s a long slow climb to the middle. Nobody is successful. It’s all for the ultra rich. And they’re all pedophiles.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Fri June 26, 2020 5:21 pm
by tree_
So an economy that was doing OK + pro-life + church loves him! = better than baby-murdering alternative.
Probably best not to even try.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Fri June 26, 2020 5:26 pm
by dimejinky99
verb_to_trust wrote:tragabigzanda wrote:I’m not at all trying to shit on Josh or get a rise out of him, genuinely curious if he’s still supporting this guy, or maybe starting to look at things a bit differently?
PRO ISRAEL
SAVES BABYS
GUNS
You’re all aware now that your media is comprised and has an agenda.
The rest of the entire world has been shouting for years that Israel is carrying out a genocide.
I’ve been called an anti Semite countless times on this board for even bringing it up.
Maybe now, finally people on rm will actually look it up and wake the fuck up.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Fri June 26, 2020 5:27 pm
by B
tree_ wrote:So an economy that was doing OK + pro-life + church loves him! = better than baby-murdering alternative.
Probably best not to even try.
At this point, anyone still supporting Trump is beyond the reach of rational thought. Best to avoid politics and answer with "Oh, OK," if he decides to hit you with his opinions.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Fri June 26, 2020 5:28 pm
by verb_to_trust
tragabigzanda wrote:tree_ wrote:I just want to know the most basic argument against him being good for the economy. My wife seems to think this too.
Try this: a strong economy requires a healthy functioning workforce; and that workforce requires science-based safeguards to make sure that they remain healthy and functioning. And this president has good at those safeguards and basically every opportunity, and he completely owns this tanked economy.
Automation will take things from here
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Fri June 26, 2020 5:29 pm
by verb_to_trust
dimejinky99 wrote:verb_to_trust wrote:tragabigzanda wrote:I’m not at all trying to shit on Josh or get a rise out of him, genuinely curious if he’s still supporting this guy, or maybe starting to look at things a bit differently?
PRO ISRAEL
SAVES BABYS
GUNS
You’re all aware now that your media is comprised and has an agenda.
The rest of the entire world has been shouting for years that Israel is carrying out a genocide.
I’ve been called an anti Semite countless times on this board for even bringing it up.
Maybe now, finally people on rm will actually look it up and wake the fuck up.
Oh, it's the Irish guy preaching to the choir. Cool
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Fri June 26, 2020 5:31 pm
by tree_
B wrote:tree_ wrote:So an economy that was doing OK + pro-life + church loves him! = better than baby-murdering alternative.
Probably best not to even try.
At this point, anyone still supporting Trump is beyond the reach of rational thought. Best to avoid politics and answer with "Oh, OK," if he decides to hit you with his opinions.
Last time he was talking about it, I replied "but we can all agree that personality-wise, he's an unstable maniac at best, right?" and we all laughed and said "oh yeah"
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Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Fri June 26, 2020 5:37 pm
by verb_to_trust
Josh likes his policies, not the man. Which is weird because you just know Trump has been jerked off during a massage. Also, I haven't heard Trump articulate one single policy goal for his second term other than tearing down Obamacare I guess. Nevermind that after 4 years nobody has any clue what his much better healthcare plan would even be.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Fri June 26, 2020 5:40 pm
by tree_
Unfortunately the current insanity and divisiveness of the left is only making the forecast look worse and empowering Trump supporters. It's fucking ridiculous these are our two options.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Fri June 26, 2020 5:42 pm
by verb_to_trust
Trump is going to lose