Post Random Movie-Related Thoughts You Have

[tragabigzanda]

Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

[LoathedVermin72]

Jesus fucking Christ trag. No no no no no no a thousand billions times no you philistine

[tragabigzanda]

Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

[LoathedVermin72]

I'm gonna need an actual argument, LV.

You will get it once I get off work. But I can't believe this needs an argument.

[E.H. Ruddock]

I'm sad LV has to work on Sunday

[tragabigzanda]

Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

[tragabigzanda]

Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

[The Argonaut]

IHRM struggled with this same issue a few years ago, right here on this very board. That's why there's a thread with the awkward name "Cinematic Motion Picture News Thread".

[tragabigzanda]

Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

[Jorge]

Clear-ly bad

[tragabigzanda]

Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

[E.H. Ruddock]

IHRM?

And I'm not struggling. My thinking on this is totally clear.

RM user I Hail Randy Moss. I miss him even though he threatened my life

[Kaius]

Your ability to (subjectively) identify the motivations behind an artistic professional's work doesn't really mean anything, trag. The end product, movie/film, is experienced through the same medium, and this semantics argument is arbitrary snob culture crap.

[The Argonaut]

Film is a physical thing. That's the only distinction.

[tragabigzanda]

Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

[tragabigzanda]

Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

[LoathedVermin72]

This kind of hierarchy of artistic purity makes no sense to me, and I have no idea how anyone could apply it in any kind of meaningful, consistent, or logical way. Who is making that distinction? Who decides what is pure and what isn't? And why, ultimately, does it matter?

Every movie - no matter what its genre, who made it, how much it cost, how profitable it was, or what the filmmaker's intent was - is equally capable of insight, emotion, sensuality, and artistic success. Because all art is going to subjectively judged, an artist's intent has very little meaning to the artistic success of the final work of art. That is determined by the person taking in that work of art.

I think Commando is a greater artistic success than Manchester by the Sea. I think Jurassic Park is a greater artistic success than Schindler's List. These are all movies. These are all films. They are all works of art. They are all commercial. The only distinction is which ones I think are good or bad. I can be just as profoundly moved by a $100 million dollar blockbuster as I can an arthouse movie from the Czech Republic. There's no difference.

[tragabigzanda]

Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

[Leatherhead]

I totally agree with all of this. I wasn't suggesting that Get Out was somehow of higher merit than, say, BvsS; just that the creators' intentions were vastly different, and that for Jordan Peele, this movie seems to indicate a shift from crowd-pleasing/money-making fare to something with some sort of message.

Perhaps Jordan Peele thinks something with "some sort of message" will make lots of money and please lots of crowds.

[tragabigzanda]

Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.