I do find it interesting he didn't outright pardon him.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Sat July 11, 2020 2:49 am
by Biff Pocoroba
Stickman wrote:
The Lincoln Project is a PAC founded by NeverTrump Republicans including George Conway, Steve Schmidt, and Rick Wilson.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Sat July 11, 2020 2:50 am
by knee tunes
Simple Torture wrote:
Donald "Black Beans" Trump
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Sat July 11, 2020 2:51 am
by Biff Pocoroba
elliseamos wrote:I do find it interesting he didn't outright pardon him.
I heard a commentator say that Stone did want a pardon because that would have implied guilt.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Sat July 11, 2020 2:56 am
by lennytheweedwhacker
knee tunes wrote:
Simple Torture wrote:
Donald "Black Beans" Trump
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Sat July 11, 2020 2:59 am
by wease
And the corruption continues
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Sat July 11, 2020 3:06 am
by Simple Torture
Biff Pocoroba wrote:
elliseamos wrote:I do find it interesting he didn't outright pardon him.
I heard a commentator say that Stone did want a pardon because that would have implied guilt.
Also, from what I understand, when you're pardoned, you cannot plead the 5th in regards to the crimes you were pardoned for. So if Stone were ever called as a witness after a pardon (say, after Trump left office in a case against Trump), he could be held in contempt if he held anything back. With clemency, he can continue to maintain his innocence.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Sat July 11, 2020 4:41 am
by Superblood Wolfmoon
Simple Torture wrote:
Biff Pocoroba wrote:
elliseamos wrote:I do find it interesting he didn't outright pardon him.
I heard a commentator say that Stone did want a pardon because that would have implied guilt.
Also, from what I understand, when you're pardoned, you cannot plead the 5th in regards to the crimes you were pardoned for. So if Stone were ever called as a witness after a pardon (say, after Trump left office in a case against Trump), he could be held in contempt if he held anything back. With clemency, he can continue to maintain his innocence.
So if Joe Biden is elected one of the first things he should do is pardon Roger Stone I guess? Does the person have to actually accept a presidential pardon? Because if not, that would be a pretty baller move.
EDIT: Nevermind, a quick google search shows that federal pardons do indeed have to be accepted by the person it's being granted to.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Sat July 11, 2020 12:20 pm
by elliseamos
ST gets it.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Sat July 11, 2020 12:54 pm
by elliseamos
In other news, "I'm tough on Russia, but if they want Afghanistan (lile Syria), enjoy yourself!"
Also, side thought, if he stopped the attack in 2018 and lost bigly, maybe that's evidence of something with the Russians previously happening in his favor. Maybe?
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Sat July 11, 2020 1:01 pm
by elliseamos
Without comment:
“the greatest base in the history of politics. . . . Have you been watching the boats in Florida, all over the country? Thousands of boats every weekend. They have thousands of boats, and cycles, you know the bikers for Trump? They had a line last week, it went miles long, bikers for Trump, and they have the flags and the whole thing.”
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Sat July 11, 2020 1:38 pm
by blueviper
elliseamos wrote:Without comment:
“the greatest base in the history of politics. . . . Have you been watching the boats in Florida, all over the country? Thousands of boats every weekend. They have thousands of boats, and cycles, you know the bikers for Trump? They had a line last week, it went miles long, bikers for Trump, and they have the flags and the whole thing.”
Sounds like the kid in front of the class trying to do his book report but only reading the 1st chapter.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Sat July 11, 2020 1:47 pm
by JuanHamm
What a time to be alive. The first black president and now the first downs syndrome president.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Sat July 11, 2020 2:36 pm
by Mickey
The boater obsession is only going to stop being funny when one of them tries to run over a water-based protest.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Sat July 11, 2020 3:14 pm
by elliseamos
I love how he invites the Ukraine conversation to show he's tough on Russia, but then doesn't see how he extorted them with the Biden investigation BS.