jwfocker wrote:I look for a challenging, long game first of all. An Expansive world is really important as well and is also part of it being a long game. Loot and character development is key. All of this combines to make an interesting, well developed world in which your character operates in. Multi-player is an awesome plus but not necessary.
So basically Dark Souls which I consider the best game from the previous generation of consoles.
Haha, well I think this explains why we disagree. "Challenging, long, loot, multi-player" - pretty much describes exactly what I DON'T want in a game.
Did you ever play Journey?
I did not, but I heard good things and it seems intriguing. Should I check it out?
Yes, I think you'd really enjoy it. It is really short (2 hours or so) so I would recommend playing it in one sitting.
Re: The all inclusive video game thread
Posted: Tue May 26, 2015 4:39 pm
by CopperTom
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
jwfocker wrote:
Monkey_Driven wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
jwfocker wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:I was gonna try Witcher 3 until I found out it had weapon deterioration. Fuck that shit.
Sound reason for not trying it.
i have a very low tolerance for grindy/game-y/busy work bullshit like this in games. i know i will just be annoyed and wind up hating the game. that was a big reason why i hated fallout 3
Depends on how often it occurs but ultimately I agree with you.
I agree. It can become well stupid but there are so many towns and enough items to keep your weapons good and ready that I haven't noticed it becoming an issue. Which is a relief because with a game of this size it could easily become a major problem.
I think the problem with it is that it's an irritating reminder that I am playing a video game. The best games, in my opinion, do everything they can to make you forget that. They are immersive experiences that allow you to become swept up in the emotion, the stakes, the excitement, the atmosphere, the narrative, the characters, the fun. But when I have to stop being swept up in that in order to tinker with menus and deal with leveling or my weapons not functioning, it takes me out of the experience. I lose sight of the game's experience and am made painfully aware of the game's superficial mechanics. I think in order for games to truly progress as an artform, developers need to stop clinging to those kinds of antiquated gameplay devices and start innovating and being more emotionally/psychologically intuitive.
It sounds like you would hate games where you need to mine dozens of planets looking for ore. Hours upon hours of mining. By your own logic, you should hate that game.
Re: The all inclusive video game thread
Posted: Tue May 26, 2015 4:40 pm
by LoathedVermin72
CopperTom wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
jwfocker wrote:
Monkey_Driven wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
jwfocker wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:I was gonna try Witcher 3 until I found out it had weapon deterioration. Fuck that shit.
Sound reason for not trying it.
i have a very low tolerance for grindy/game-y/busy work bullshit like this in games. i know i will just be annoyed and wind up hating the game. that was a big reason why i hated fallout 3
Depends on how often it occurs but ultimately I agree with you.
I agree. It can become well stupid but there are so many towns and enough items to keep your weapons good and ready that I haven't noticed it becoming an issue. Which is a relief because with a game of this size it could easily become a major problem.
I think the problem with it is that it's an irritating reminder that I am playing a video game. The best games, in my opinion, do everything they can to make you forget that. They are immersive experiences that allow you to become swept up in the emotion, the stakes, the excitement, the atmosphere, the narrative, the characters, the fun. But when I have to stop being swept up in that in order to tinker with menus and deal with leveling or my weapons not functioning, it takes me out of the experience. I lose sight of the game's experience and am made painfully aware of the game's superficial mechanics. I think in order for games to truly progress as an artform, developers need to stop clinging to those kinds of antiquated gameplay devices and start innovating and being more emotionally/psychologically intuitive.
It sounds like you would hate games where you need to mine dozens of planets looking for ore. Hours upon hours of mining. By your own logic, you should hate that game.
Yes, you're right. And I do think the game would be better without those elements. I love it for other reasons, and wish BioWare would abandon that kind of grindy crap.
Re: The all inclusive video game thread
Posted: Tue May 26, 2015 4:42 pm
by LoathedVermin72
Monkey_Driven wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
Monkey_Driven wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
jwfocker wrote:I look for a challenging, long game first of all. An Expansive world is really important as well and is also part of it being a long game. Loot and character development is key. All of this combines to make an interesting, well developed world in which your character operates in. Multi-player is an awesome plus but not necessary.
So basically Dark Souls which I consider the best game from the previous generation of consoles.
Haha, well I think this explains why we disagree. "Challenging, long, loot, multi-player" - pretty much describes exactly what I DON'T want in a game.
Did you ever play Journey?
I did not, but I heard good things and it seems intriguing. Should I check it out?
Yes, I think you'd really enjoy it. It is really short (2 hours or so) so I would recommend playing it in one sitting.
Cool, I'll check it out. Now I can't decide if I should wait for the upcoming PS4 remaster or just spend $20 on the PS3 collection with Flower and Flow...
Re: The all inclusive video game thread
Posted: Tue May 26, 2015 5:02 pm
by LoathedVermin72
I bought it. I need something to do. Thanks, M_D!
Re: The all inclusive video game thread
Posted: Tue May 26, 2015 5:12 pm
by Monkey_Driven
LoathedVermin72 wrote:I bought it. I need something to do. Thanks, M_D!
You bet. Hope your enjoy it. I think it is a pretty special game.
Re: The all inclusive video game thread
Posted: Tue May 26, 2015 5:15 pm
by tommymtcom
So, is No Mans Sky ever going to come out and if so will it be any good? It seems too good to be true.
Re: The all inclusive video game thread
Posted: Tue May 26, 2015 5:17 pm
by LoathedVermin72
tommymtcom wrote:So, is No Mans Sky ever going to come out and if so will it be any good? It seems too good to be true.
Yeah, I'm going crazy waiting for that thing. Last I heard I think it's looking like early 2016?
Re: The all inclusive video game thread
Posted: Tue May 26, 2015 5:28 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
tommymtcom wrote:So, is No Mans Sky ever going to come out and if so will it be any good? It seems too good to be true.
Yeah, I'm going crazy waiting for that thing. Last I heard I think it's looking like early 2016?
The only thing I'm not looking forward to is apparently when you discover a star, planet, etc. for the first time you get to name it? There are going to be some stupid names on there.
Re: The all inclusive video game thread
Posted: Tue May 26, 2015 8:14 pm
by LoathedVermin72
Monkey_Driven wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:I bought it. I need something to do. Thanks, M_D!
You bet. Hope your enjoy it. I think it is a pretty special game.
I was gonna play this tonight, but I just got an e-mail that the store canceled my pick-up order because it wasn't actually in-stock. wtf
Re: The all inclusive video game thread
Posted: Tue May 26, 2015 8:15 pm
by Monkey_Driven
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
Monkey_Driven wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:I bought it. I need something to do. Thanks, M_D!
You bet. Hope your enjoy it. I think it is a pretty special game.
I was gonna play this tonight, but I just got an e-mail that the store canceled my pick-up order because it wasn't actually in-stock. wtf
What store?
Re: The all inclusive video game thread
Posted: Tue May 26, 2015 8:17 pm
by LoathedVermin72
Monkey_Driven wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
Monkey_Driven wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:I bought it. I need something to do. Thanks, M_D!
You bet. Hope your enjoy it. I think it is a pretty special game.
I was gonna play this tonight, but I just got an e-mail that the store canceled my pick-up order because it wasn't actually in-stock. wtf
What store?
stupid wal-mart had it the cheapest and it was the fastest available option. stupid wal-mart
Re: The all inclusive video game thread
Posted: Tue May 26, 2015 8:19 pm
by Monkey_Driven
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
Monkey_Driven wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
Monkey_Driven wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:I bought it. I need something to do. Thanks, M_D!
You bet. Hope your enjoy it. I think it is a pretty special game.
I was gonna play this tonight, but I just got an e-mail that the store canceled my pick-up order because it wasn't actually in-stock. wtf
What store?
stupid wal-mart had it the cheapest and it was the fastest available option. stupid wal-mart
Sounds about right. I had an online online gift card for Best Buy once so I bought it online for in-store pickup. It took 25 minutes in the store for the entire transaction. It was painful.
Re: The all inclusive video game thread
Posted: Tue May 26, 2015 8:22 pm
by LoathedVermin72
Monkey_Driven wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
Monkey_Driven wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
Monkey_Driven wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:I bought it. I need something to do. Thanks, M_D!
You bet. Hope your enjoy it. I think it is a pretty special game.
I was gonna play this tonight, but I just got an e-mail that the store canceled my pick-up order because it wasn't actually in-stock. wtf
What store?
stupid wal-mart had it the cheapest and it was the fastest available option. stupid wal-mart
Sounds about right. I had an online online gift card for Best Buy once so I bought it online for in-store pickup. It took 25 minutes in the store for the entire transaction. It was painful.
i hear ya. best buy consistently has some of the worst employees of any retailer (and this is coming from someone who used to work there).
the shittiest part of this wal-mart deal is i didn't order it from amazon because i saw i could get it through them, so i missed my window to have it delivered on thursday. dammit wal-mart
Re: The all inclusive video game thread
Posted: Thu May 28, 2015 2:31 am
by Rangi Guy
Re: The all inclusive video game thread
Posted: Thu May 28, 2015 3:03 am
by BurtReynolds
lol weapon degeneration. How cute. I played New Vegas on hardcore mode, mofos. Gotta eat and go to doctors and such. I even hated that my canteen always had water in it.
Re: The all inclusive video game thread
Posted: Thu May 28, 2015 3:16 am
by LoathedVermin72
What's enjoyable about that kind of hardcore "gamer" shit? I don't get it. How is that fun?
Re: The all inclusive video game thread
Posted: Thu May 28, 2015 3:30 am
by Mecca
LoathedVermin72 wrote:What's enjoyable about that kind of hardcore "gamer" shit? I don't get it. How is that fun?
because its challenging and the reward is even sweeter
Re: The all inclusive video game thread
Posted: Thu May 28, 2015 3:31 am
by Norah
I beat Turtles in Time the other day. It was pretty sweet.
Re: The all inclusive video game thread
Posted: Thu May 28, 2015 3:36 am
by Monkey_Driven
cutuphalfdead wrote:I beat Turtles in Time the other day. It was pretty sweet.
Now that is a classic game. So many late nights playing that with my buddies.
Yes, you're right. And I do think the game would be better without those elements. I love it for other reasons, and wish BioWare would abandon that kind of grindy crap.
It was painful.