Red Mosquito

Coach wrote:I wasn't disappointed last night...loved Jon Snow, but he let the enemy in in an attempt to fend off the white walkers, and I just don't think the wildlings were gonna help enough to justify it.

I think part of the point was that Jon didn't expect the wildlings to fight; he saved them because they would've died beyond the Wall.

Simple Torture wrote:

Coach wrote:I wasn't disappointed last night...loved Jon Snow, but he let the enemy in in an attempt to fend off the white walkers, and I just don't think the wildlings were gonna help enough to justify it.

I think part of the point was that Jon didn't expect the wildlings to fight; he saved them because they would've died beyond the Wall.

the hell he didn't expect them to fight

"I've been worrying about Jon for years. He always comes back." - Samwell Tarly

"The long night is coming, and the dead come with it." - Jon Snow

spike wrote:"I've been worrying about Jon for years. He always comes back." - Samwell Tarly

"The long night is coming, and the dead come with it." - Jon Snow

Maybe somehow he'll come back as something undead.

E.H. Ruddock wrote:

spike wrote:"I've been worrying about Jon for years. He always comes back." - Samwell Tarly

"The long night is coming, and the dead come with it." - Jon Snow

Maybe somehow he'll come back as something undead.

thanks for explaining the quotes, ruddo.

spike wrote:

E.H. Ruddock wrote:

spike wrote:"I've been worrying about Jon for years. He always comes back." - Samwell Tarly

"The long night is coming, and the dead come with it." - Jon Snow

Maybe somehow he'll come back as something undead.

thanks for explaining the quotes, ruddo.

E.H. Ruddock wrote:

spike wrote:

E.H. Ruddock wrote:

spike wrote:"I've been worrying about Jon for years. He always comes back." - Samwell Tarly

"The long night is coming, and the dead come with it." - Jon Snow

Maybe somehow he'll come back as something undead.

thanks for explaining the quotes, ruddo.

durdencommatyler wrote:

Kaius wrote:I don't know about that... (Not a book reader)

He was the ultimate badass. The show never really got into how fucking brilliant of a fighter he really was. But, yeah, mine was probably an exaggeration. But it would've been a damn good fight.

Loras too. He should not have been taken so easily by the faith militant.

Here's the thing that has me strongly leaning against resurrection...


The night's watch knows to burn their dead, and likely will do so immediately.

Man, everything with Stannis was so rushed and anti-climatic in the worst way. Oh, half your man are gone, oh, your wife is dead, oh, Melisandre is gone, oh, this isn't a siege at all! Here's Stannis conveniently surviving so that Brienne's arc makes any sense this season. Guess burning your daughter was pretty pointless. At least it was shocking. I did get nothing out of that except for disappointment.
Sansa's arc was pretty stupid too. All that Littlefinger talk about revenge and then she does nothing of consequence at all except being tortured by Ramsay. Cool. Maybe she's pregnant so she can suffer some more next season.
And let's just not talk about Dorne.

Mike wrote:Man, everything with Stannis was so rushed and anti-climatic in the worst way. Oh, half your man are gone, oh, your wife is dead, oh, Melisandre is gone, oh, this isn't a siege at all! Here's Stannis conveniently surviving so that Brienne's arc makes any sense this season. Guess burning your daughter was pretty pointless. At least it was shocking. I did get nothing out of that except for disappointment.
Sansa's arc was pretty stupid too. All that Littlefinger talk about revenge and then she does nothing of consequence at all except being tortured by Ramsay. Cool. Maybe she's pregnant so she can suffer some more next season.
And let's just not talk about Dorne.

This is exactly how I feel

That's what happens when you put your faith in misread prophecies.

E.H. Ruddock wrote:

Mike wrote:Man, everything with Stannis was so rushed and anti-climatic in the worst way. Oh, half your man are gone, oh, your wife is dead, oh, Melisandre is gone, oh, this isn't a siege at all! Here's Stannis conveniently surviving so that Brienne's arc makes any sense this season. Guess burning your daughter was pretty pointless. At least it was shocking. I did get nothing out of that except for disappointment.
Sansa's arc was pretty stupid too. All that Littlefinger talk about revenge and then she does nothing of consequence at all except being tortured by Ramsay. Cool. Maybe she's pregnant so she can suffer some more next season.
And let's just not talk about Dorne.

This is exactly how I feel

Yup. And what about King Pussy Balls? I think his Mummy is going to give him smackies...

Varis wrote:

E.H. Ruddock wrote:

Mike wrote:Man, everything with Stannis was so rushed and anti-climatic in the worst way. Oh, half your man are gone, oh, your wife is dead, oh, Melisandre is gone, oh, this isn't a siege at all! Here's Stannis conveniently surviving so that Brienne's arc makes any sense this season. Guess burning your daughter was pretty pointless. At least it was shocking. I did get nothing out of that except for disappointment.
Sansa's arc was pretty stupid too. All that Littlefinger talk about revenge and then she does nothing of consequence at all except being tortured by Ramsay. Cool. Maybe she's pregnant so she can suffer some more next season.
And let's just not talk about Dorne.

This is exactly how I feel

Yup. And what about King Pussy Balls? I think his Mummy is going to give him smackies...

@SkitchP wrote:Here's the thing that has me strongly leaning against resurrection...


The night's watch knows to burn their dead, and likely will do so immediately.

Don't worry about it, Skitch. I tried to talk about this earlier. No one was interested.

I expected a lot of despondency, but I didn't expect so much outright hate for this episode. I'm surprised how many people are calling it "poorly written" or even the "worst episode of tv I've seen." So far, "meh" has been encouraging.

I thought it was a pretty fantastic episode.

Mecca wrote:I still think that Brienne swung that sword the wrong way to execute Stannis. He was against a tree, looking up and to the left at Brienne. She swung right to left. Either she's ruthless and wanted to just slice his throat open, she hits the tree, or she was swinging at something else. Either way, even if Stannis was alive, there's nothing left for him in the world.

I honestly thought the same thing after watching that scene. It just didn't look right at all.

durdencommatyler wrote:I expected a lot of despondency, but I didn't expect so much outright hate for this episode. I'm surprised how many people are calling it "poorly written" or even the "worst episode of tv I've seen." So far, "meh" has been encouraging.

I thought it was a pretty fantastic episode.

People having strong reactions on the internet and sharing them? I never would have guessed.

I enjoyed the episode too. I thought the Stannis stuff was a little rushed but otherwise it was one of the better finales they've done.

Monkey_Driven wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:I expected a lot of despondency, but I didn't expect so much outright hate for this episode. I'm surprised how many people are calling it "poorly written" or even the "worst episode of tv I've seen." So far, "meh" has been encouraging.

I thought it was a pretty fantastic episode.

People having strong reactions on the internet and sharing them? I never would have guessed.

I enjoyed the episode too. I thought the Stannis stuff was a little rushed but otherwise it was one of the better finales they've done.

Same, overall I thought it was excellent.

But, any reason why they couldn't do a 2 hr finale? Some of the scenes, like Stannis', were a little rushed, and others, like Cersei's shaming walk were a tad long. I mean, its HBO's most popular program and driving subscription force by far. They really jammed a lot in that hour. Is production cost the reason?

Monkey_Driven wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:I expected a lot of despondency, but I didn't expect so much outright hate for this episode. I'm surprised how many people are calling it "poorly written" or even the "worst episode of tv I've seen." So far, "meh" has been encouraging.

I thought it was a pretty fantastic episode.

People having strong reactions on the internet and sharing them? I never would have guessed.

I enjoyed the episode too. I thought the Stannis stuff was a little rushed but otherwise it was one of the better finales they've done.

I really liked how quickly shit feel apart for Stannis. He played it so SO fucking well. And I enjoy the ambiguity of his final moment, too. Really well done, I thought.