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Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Mon August 17, 2020 5:53 pm
by tree_
tragabigzanda wrote:I only saw BJM, Adaptation, and Eternal Sunshine. I still think Adaptation is great. Eternal Sunshine kind of sucks. Malkovich is somewhere between the two for me.

Should I watch Synechdoche?
It's definitely worth a gander, if not only because of how wildly creative and big-scoped of a project it is. I saw it several times many years ago soon after it was released to DVD. I was pathetic too back then and it was a commiserating buddy. Some miserable company. Tried to watch it recently with Raz who'd never seen it and neither of us were diggin' it. She couldn't care enough to try to follow what the hell was going on. Can be confusing. Might need to have the internet handy for help the first time through if you want to follow what's actually going on.

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Mon August 17, 2020 5:54 pm
by tree_
Anomalisa is also a very interesting movie, yet pathetic.

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Mon August 17, 2020 5:55 pm
by tragabigzanda
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Mon August 17, 2020 5:56 pm
by tree_
Probably for the best, pal.

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Mon August 17, 2020 5:57 pm
by tragabigzanda
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Mon August 17, 2020 5:57 pm
by tragabigzanda
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Mon August 17, 2020 5:59 pm
by tree_
Totally. Yes, life can be extremely difficult and horrible but why focus on it when it can also be extremely beautiful? There's a time and place for it but I'm definitely not in that mindset these days.

Looking into your recommendation now.

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Mon August 17, 2020 10:11 pm
by lennytheweedwhacker
you guys suck

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Tue August 18, 2020 1:36 pm
by tree_
About half of Her last night. Bed time sneaked upon me. Very sad, fascinating. I love when the future is done well in movies. This is the prettiest dystopia. The minuscule levels at which people engage one another in this society is freaky. Most freakily because it's happening to us more and more as our dependence on technology increases. And AI is coming soon. The AI MUST have ulterior motives. "She" tells him everything he wants/needs to hear. It's horrific. I've seen it a few times before but it's been a long while. Gonna have to finish this soon.

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Tue August 18, 2020 1:40 pm
by Jorge
My favorite thing about Her is that really pretty, Satie-like piano piece that plays when they're on the beach.

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Tue August 18, 2020 2:11 pm
by VinylGuy
thats one movie i wanna revisit soon.

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Tue August 18, 2020 2:16 pm
by lennytheweedwhacker
tree_ wrote:About half of Her last night. Bed time sneaked upon me. Very sad, fascinating. I love when the future is done well in movies. This is the prettiest dystopia. The minuscule levels at which people engage one another in this society is freaky. Most freakily because it's happening to us more and more as our dependence on technology increases. And AI is coming soon. The AI MUST have ulterior motives. "She" tells him everything he wants/needs to hear. It's horrific. I've seen it a few times before but it's been a long while. Gonna have to finish this soon.
it’s woe is me storytelling at its finest

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Tue August 18, 2020 2:17 pm
by lennytheweedwhacker
mission impossible 2 is playing while I “work” from the couch...i really don’t like this movie

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Tue August 18, 2020 2:20 pm
by tree_
lennytheweedwhacker wrote:
tree_ wrote:About half of Her last night. Bed time sneaked upon me. Very sad, fascinating. I love when the future is done well in movies. This is the prettiest dystopia. The minuscule levels at which people engage one another in this society is freaky. Most freakily because it's happening to us more and more as our dependence on technology increases. And AI is coming soon. The AI MUST have ulterior motives. "She" tells him everything he wants/needs to hear. It's horrific. I've seen it a few times before but it's been a long while. Gonna have to finish this soon.
it’s woe is me storytelling at its finest
See, that's the thing. It isn't "woe is me". It's that AI is so much smarter than people. It's basically a sci-fi horror movie disguised as a Kaufman-esque rom-com. Not a pity party. The main character is kind of pitiful, but he's pretty normal. This is where society is heading. It's a warning.

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Tue August 18, 2020 2:23 pm
by lennytheweedwhacker
tree_ wrote:
lennytheweedwhacker wrote:
tree_ wrote:About half of Her last night. Bed time sneaked upon me. Very sad, fascinating. I love when the future is done well in movies. This is the prettiest dystopia. The minuscule levels at which people engage one another in this society is freaky. Most freakily because it's happening to us more and more as our dependence on technology increases. And AI is coming soon. The AI MUST have ulterior motives. "She" tells him everything he wants/needs to hear. It's horrific. I've seen it a few times before but it's been a long while. Gonna have to finish this soon.
it’s woe is me storytelling at its finest
See, that's the thing. It isn't "woe is me". It's that AI is so much smarter than people. It's basically a sci-fi horror movie disguised as a Kaufman-esque rom-com. Not a pity party. The main character is kind of pitiful, but he's pretty normal. This is where society is heading. It's a warning.
i really don’t get the pity party evaluation of Kaufman’s characters...it doesn’t feel like that’s what he was going for at all

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Tue August 18, 2020 2:26 pm
by tree_
lennytheweedwhacker wrote:
tree_ wrote:
lennytheweedwhacker wrote:
tree_ wrote:About half of Her last night. Bed time sneaked upon me. Very sad, fascinating. I love when the future is done well in movies. This is the prettiest dystopia. The minuscule levels at which people engage one another in this society is freaky. Most freakily because it's happening to us more and more as our dependence on technology increases. And AI is coming soon. The AI MUST have ulterior motives. "She" tells him everything he wants/needs to hear. It's horrific. I've seen it a few times before but it's been a long while. Gonna have to finish this soon.
it’s woe is me storytelling at its finest
See, that's the thing. It isn't "woe is me". It's that AI is so much smarter than people. It's basically a sci-fi horror movie disguised as a Kaufman-esque rom-com. Not a pity party. The main character is kind of pitiful, but he's pretty normal. This is where society is heading. It's a warning.
i really don’t get the pity party evaluation of Kaufman’s characters...it doesn’t feel like that’s what he was going for at all
Name one main character of his that is not a pitiful wreck of a poor excuse of a human.

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Tue August 18, 2020 2:37 pm
by lennytheweedwhacker
tree_ wrote:
lennytheweedwhacker wrote:
tree_ wrote:
lennytheweedwhacker wrote:
tree_ wrote:About half of Her last night. Bed time sneaked upon me. Very sad, fascinating. I love when the future is done well in movies. This is the prettiest dystopia. The minuscule levels at which people engage one another in this society is freaky. Most freakily because it's happening to us more and more as our dependence on technology increases. And AI is coming soon. The AI MUST have ulterior motives. "She" tells him everything he wants/needs to hear. It's horrific. I've seen it a few times before but it's been a long while. Gonna have to finish this soon.
it’s woe is me storytelling at its finest
See, that's the thing. It isn't "woe is me". It's that AI is so much smarter than people. It's basically a sci-fi horror movie disguised as a Kaufman-esque rom-com. Not a pity party. The main character is kind of pitiful, but he's pretty normal. This is where society is heading. It's a warning.
i really don’t get the pity party evaluation of Kaufman’s characters...it doesn’t feel like that’s what he was going for at all
Name one main character of his that is not a pitiful wreck of a poor excuse of a human.
what i mean is we’re not supposed to pity them necessarily and that’s not really the point of their characters...Joel in ESOTSM is not one though

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Tue August 18, 2020 2:41 pm
by VinylGuy
lennytheweedwhacker wrote:mission impossible 2 is playing while I “work” from the couch...i really don’t like this movie
yeah, that one is the worst. I might rewatch it someday...that one is the only one i saw just once.

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Tue August 18, 2020 2:44 pm
by tree_
lennytheweedwhacker wrote:
tree_ wrote:
lennytheweedwhacker wrote:
tree_ wrote:
lennytheweedwhacker wrote:
tree_ wrote:About half of Her last night. Bed time sneaked upon me. Very sad, fascinating. I love when the future is done well in movies. This is the prettiest dystopia. The minuscule levels at which people engage one another in this society is freaky. Most freakily because it's happening to us more and more as our dependence on technology increases. And AI is coming soon. The AI MUST have ulterior motives. "She" tells him everything he wants/needs to hear. It's horrific. I've seen it a few times before but it's been a long while. Gonna have to finish this soon.
it’s woe is me storytelling at its finest
See, that's the thing. It isn't "woe is me". It's that AI is so much smarter than people. It's basically a sci-fi horror movie disguised as a Kaufman-esque rom-com. Not a pity party. The main character is kind of pitiful, but he's pretty normal. This is where society is heading. It's a warning.
i really don’t get the pity party evaluation of Kaufman’s characters...it doesn’t feel like that’s what he was going for at all
Name one main character of his that is not a pitiful wreck of a poor excuse of a human.
what i mean is we’re not supposed to pity them necessarily and that’s not really the point of their characters...Joel in ESOTSM is not one though
Joel is too. But yeah, it feels like the entire point of his movies is "life is too hard let's cry about it" to me. Don't get me wrong, I've loved every one of his movies, except the one about the jewel thief, to the point of near obsession at times in my life. They can be great. It's just that, like trag, I'm at a point in my life where I'd just rather focus on things that feel more worthwhile. Inspirational, beautiful, fascinating stuff that doesn't focus on the universe being the vacuous, pointless, torturous hell hole it can feel like at times. When you watch Charlie Kaufman the person in interviews you can tell he has a really hard time. His phobias and torments are his characters', clearly.

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Tue August 18, 2020 2:49 pm
by lennytheweedwhacker
tree_ wrote:
lennytheweedwhacker wrote:
tree_ wrote:
lennytheweedwhacker wrote:
tree_ wrote:
lennytheweedwhacker wrote:
tree_ wrote:About half of Her last night. Bed time sneaked upon me. Very sad, fascinating. I love when the future is done well in movies. This is the prettiest dystopia. The minuscule levels at which people engage one another in this society is freaky. Most freakily because it's happening to us more and more as our dependence on technology increases. And AI is coming soon. The AI MUST have ulterior motives. "She" tells him everything he wants/needs to hear. It's horrific. I've seen it a few times before but it's been a long while. Gonna have to finish this soon.
it’s woe is me storytelling at its finest
See, that's the thing. It isn't "woe is me". It's that AI is so much smarter than people. It's basically a sci-fi horror movie disguised as a Kaufman-esque rom-com. Not a pity party. The main character is kind of pitiful, but he's pretty normal. This is where society is heading. It's a warning.
i really don’t get the pity party evaluation of Kaufman’s characters...it doesn’t feel like that’s what he was going for at all
Name one main character of his that is not a pitiful wreck of a poor excuse of a human.
what i mean is we’re not supposed to pity them necessarily and that’s not really the point of their characters...Joel in ESOTSM is not one though
Joel is too. But yeah, it feels like the entire point of his movies is "life is too hard let's cry about it" to me. Don't get me wrong, I've loved every one of his movies to the point of near obsession at times in my life. They can be great. It's just that, like trag, I'm at a point in my life where I'd just rather focus on things that feel more worthwhile. Inspirational, beautiful, fascinating stuff that doesn't focus on the universe being the vacuous, pointless, torturous hell hole it can feel like at times. When you watch Charlie Kaufman the person in interviews you can tell he has a really hard time. His phobias and torments are his characters', clearly.
i get that you’d rather focus on other things than what you feel with his works, but I just disagree on what you’re calling the point of his movies...despite the elements that may lead to someone feeling empty I still find a lot of beauty and life in his works, and completely fascinating