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Re: Mind Your Manners

Posted: Sat July 13, 2013 7:32 am
by harmless
spike wrote:
Blenheim Augustine wrote:
spike wrote:
WtOB? wrote:Yeah, it'd be nice to think the video is a big joke but I think it was all too real. The awfulness isn't completely the band's fault, but they did participate in it and surely could have prevented it being so lame.

The band themselves in the video just look like they are doing what they did at every show in 2009. Stone jumping around with his new little long hairs and all. If they are smirking to themselves or making a joke of themselves and the video then they were doing that to every show in 2009 too.
let's not forget that they shot a staged performance video for "i am mine" back when they were still cool, and that came across fairly flat too. that song is a heavier song, and the performance matched that. the fixer is an up tempo, sing along song, so naturally, the band's performance was more lively to match its music - and i think their energy comes across awkwardly when not in the context of an actual show being played on an actual stage.
The difference was that the Riot Act videos didn't have a "live" audience and they work much better as a result. I still like all those videos.
no they suck because eddie has short hair
They suck because Eddie has short hair and they're better because there's no crowd. Both of these statements are true.

Re: Mind Your Manners

Posted: Sat July 13, 2013 7:33 am
by spike
WtOB? wrote:
spike wrote:and how bad was he in singles?

why am i so into discussing this? maybe i'm just trying to figure out why eddie went from super cool to dork in my mind.
It's a fascinating transition.
i mean, the obvious and real answer is he got old, but that's too convenient. i want to delve deeper and really cook up some conspiracies.

Re: Mind Your Manners

Posted: Sat July 13, 2013 7:33 am
by spike
harmless wrote:
spike wrote:
Blenheim Augustine wrote:
spike wrote:
WtOB? wrote:Yeah, it'd be nice to think the video is a big joke but I think it was all too real. The awfulness isn't completely the band's fault, but they did participate in it and surely could have prevented it being so lame.

The band themselves in the video just look like they are doing what they did at every show in 2009. Stone jumping around with his new little long hairs and all. If they are smirking to themselves or making a joke of themselves and the video then they were doing that to every show in 2009 too.
let's not forget that they shot a staged performance video for "i am mine" back when they were still cool, and that came across fairly flat too. that song is a heavier song, and the performance matched that. the fixer is an up tempo, sing along song, so naturally, the band's performance was more lively to match its music - and i think their energy comes across awkwardly when not in the context of an actual show being played on an actual stage.
The difference was that the Riot Act videos didn't have a "live" audience and they work much better as a result. I still like all those videos.
no they suck because eddie has short hair
They suck because Eddie has short hair and they're better because there's no crowd. Both of these statements are true.
are you kinda gay for eddie, harmless?

Re: Mind Your Manners

Posted: Sat July 13, 2013 7:36 am
by harmless
spike wrote:
WtOB? wrote:
spike wrote:and how bad was he in singles?

why am i so into discussing this? maybe i'm just trying to figure out why eddie went from super cool to dork in my mind.
It's a fascinating transition.
i mean, the obvious and real answer is he got old, but that's too convenient. i went to delve deeper and really cook up some conspiracies.
I don't buy the "He got old" thing. I just think that he really suddenly wanted to do something different and found the old stuff embarrassing. Some of his fans remained wedded to the old stuff and that's how life goes. Basically, over all, I personally think that their latter work has involved a lot of experimentation into just how to do this kind of music as grown adults, fathers and husbands. And the experimentation is not over. But I would hope that in the next album or two, they will finally have it figured out and we'll have a new kind of Pearl Jam to follow us into old age. I'm still fairly confident that Ed has still (barely) escaped becoming Bono, and for that I'm grateful.

Re: Mind Your Manners

Posted: Sat July 13, 2013 7:38 am
by harmless
spike wrote:
harmless wrote:
spike wrote:
Blenheim Augustine wrote:
spike wrote:
WtOB? wrote:Yeah, it'd be nice to think the video is a big joke but I think it was all too real. The awfulness isn't completely the band's fault, but they did participate in it and surely could have prevented it being so lame.

The band themselves in the video just look like they are doing what they did at every show in 2009. Stone jumping around with his new little long hairs and all. If they are smirking to themselves or making a joke of themselves and the video then they were doing that to every show in 2009 too.
let's not forget that they shot a staged performance video for "i am mine" back when they were still cool, and that came across fairly flat too. that song is a heavier song, and the performance matched that. the fixer is an up tempo, sing along song, so naturally, the band's performance was more lively to match its music - and i think their energy comes across awkwardly when not in the context of an actual show being played on an actual stage.
The difference was that the Riot Act videos didn't have a "live" audience and they work much better as a result. I still like all those videos.
no they suck because eddie has short hair
They suck because Eddie has short hair and they're better because there's no crowd. Both of these statements are true.
are you kinda gay for eddie, harmless?
I thought everyone was. I haven't necessarily added my gayness-for-Eddie to my realisation-of-sexuality credentials.

Re: Mind Your Manners

Posted: Sat July 13, 2013 7:38 am
by spike
i really want "or we could something else" to become a formidable RM meme.

Re: Mind Your Manners

Posted: Sat July 13, 2013 7:39 am
by harmless
On the other hand, I am extremely mega gay for Jonsi.

Re: Mind Your Manners

Posted: Sat July 13, 2013 7:39 am
by harmless
spike wrote:i really want "or we could something else" to become a formidable RM meme.
Haha! Done. Or we could something else.

Re: Mind Your Manners

Posted: Sat July 13, 2013 7:40 am
by spike
harmless wrote:On the other hand, I am extremely mega gay for Jonsi.
yeah, i don't like eye contact when fucking either.

Re: Mind Your Manners

Posted: Sat July 13, 2013 7:41 am
by spike
harmless wrote:
spike wrote:i really want "or we could something else" to become a formidable RM meme.
Haha! Done. Or we could something else.
skitch would eat it up

Re: Mind Your Manners

Posted: Sat July 13, 2013 7:41 am
by harmless
spike wrote:yeah, i don't like eye contact when fucking either.
Oof... that's cruel. I like it.

You just feel as if he'd always have one eye out for something better.

Re: Mind Your Manners

Posted: Sat July 13, 2013 7:44 am
by spike
i'd make him wear an eyepatch sometimes so he'd be mysterious.

Re: Mind Your Manners

Posted: Sat July 13, 2013 7:46 am
by harmless
spike wrote:i'd make him wear an eyepatch sometimes so he'd be mysterious.
Yeah, like a scrawny Icelandic rainbow pirate.

When I realised he was hot as hell it was like a Lightning Bolt.

Re: Mind Your Manners

Posted: Sat July 13, 2013 9:05 am
by ABNorman
I think the gist of the last few pages can be summed up as-

IT'S NOT "SOMETHING ELSE" YOU GUYS.

I'll go on the record. Prepare the stocks for my eventual humiliation.

Or you could something else.

Re: Mind Your Manners

Posted: Sat July 13, 2013 9:06 am
by harmless
Who's humiliated?

Re: Mind Your Manners

Posted: Sat July 13, 2013 9:15 am
by ABNorman
harmless wrote:Who's humiliated?
Stone, every time Vedder opens his mouth.

Re: Mind Your Manners

Posted: Sat July 13, 2013 9:22 am
by harmless
Um... OK. But there's nothing humiliating about a man enjoying the idea of fellatio.

Re: Mind Your Manners

Posted: Sat July 13, 2013 9:52 am
by dimejinky99
This song is beginning to remind me of arctic monkeys

Re: Mind Your Manners

Posted: Sat July 13, 2013 10:13 am
by harmless
dimejinky99 wrote:This song is beginning to remind me of arctic monkeys
Haha, I can hear that. And it would be awesome if Ed ripped out of this one into a rendition of "I bet that you'd look good on the dance floor."

Re: Mind Your Manners

Posted: Sat July 13, 2013 10:18 am
by Sgt. Crackpot
harmless wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:This song is beginning to remind me of arctic monkeys
Haha, I can hear that. And it would be awesome if Ed ripped out of this one into a rendition of "I bet that you'd look good on the dance floor."
It'll probably just sound creepy. Like his Dream a Little Dream cover.