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Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Wed September 02, 2020 8:20 pm
by Orpheus
Been rewatching the Pirates of the Caribbean movies cause my lady wanted to, and HOLY FUCK do I love Bill Nighy's Davy Jones. He played it so well and the (Oscar winning) SFX are amazing. I had completely forgotten about this character so I was totally blindsided when he came out. Seriously one of my favorite performances ever.

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Thu September 03, 2020 1:59 pm
by dimejinky99
Last night I watched

Children of men. An excellent and now all too real depiction of where Britain is headed.
Alfonso Cuaron should direct a star war


Hedwig and the angry inch
What a fantastic film. Truly. It’s so full of hurt and healing and more hurt it’s just so good.
And the songs. Fucking fantastic songs.


Interstellar
I love this movie. I only made it halfway through Cos I was multiple beers in after weeks of no beer and fell asleep (damn you dvd menu screens repeating music waking you up hours later bursting for a piss and freezing cold) but I’m gonna start it again today. Is Nolan the king of telegraphing? This film almost gives you the ending as it goes along and not in any subtle way. But it works and done well.

Gonna watch it again this evening fully.

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Thu September 03, 2020 2:22 pm
by dimejinky99
‪It confuses me no end that Matt Damon is in both the Martian and Interstellar. Two films with almost identical premise. Is there a connection I’m missing or is it just a weird coincidence? ‬

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Thu September 03, 2020 2:25 pm
by The Argonaut
dimejinky99 wrote:‪It confuses me no end that Matt Damon is in both the Martian and Interstellar. Two films with almost identical premise. Is there a connection I’m missing or is it just a weird coincidence? ‬
Drawing connections between two astronaut characters portrayed by Matt Damon may seem like a lazy fan theory, considering that vastly different tone of the two movies in addition to the stark contrast between the two astronaut characters – one clearly being portrayed as a hero, the other a villain. However, several pieces of evidence suggest that Mark Watney of The Martian may have had good reason to change his name and later to embark on the all-or-nothing mission as Dr. Mann in Interstellar. This evidence also explains the cause of Watney/Mann’s divergent characterizations and suggests a much more tragic character arc for Watney/Mann than either film implies in isolation.

From the first mention of Dr. Mann in Interstellar there is an air of mystery around him as well as a considerable amount of reverence paid to him whenever his name is mentioned. Dr. Mann’s reputation clearly precedes him, characters discuss what an important man he is but they never reveal how he attained such a reputation. For reasons that are not clear to the audience when Dr. Mann is first mentioned, the actor portraying Dr. Mann is not immediately shown. The camera does linger on a row of photos of the twelve astronauts that have gone through the wormhole but the photos are not shown in clear detail. This shrouds Dr. Mann’s character in mystery from the beginning. Dr. Mann's onscreen introuction later in the film is played like a big reveal but it is not clear as to why the scene should have such a tone, other than the fact that Matt Damon is an A-List celebrity who had little to no involvement in promoting the film thus surprising the audience by portraying the character. If however, Interstellar were the final installment in a film series chronicling the life of Mark Watney/Dr. Mann, this scene would certainly deserve the weight and tone given to this scene which treats Dr. Mann’s introduction as a big reveal.

Towards the end of The Martian we see Mark Watney at the NASA campus. Watney acknowledges a small sprout between his feet which looks remarkably similar to the potato sprouts seen earlier on Mars. This scene seems to suggest that Watney has brought back and continued to cultivate his martian potatoes.

In Interstellar a mysterious blight has begun infecting crops and threatening life on Earth. This in turn has forced NASA underground because space exploration is seen as a frivolous expense; the thinking being that problems on Earth must be addressed before venturing off planet.

If Mark Watney’s martian potatoes caused the blight that has threatened life on Earth NASA and Watney would have all the more reason to go underground. This could also explain why the government has begun a program of rewriting American history – to further distance themselves from their involvement in bringing about the blight. The Martian establishes Mark Watney’s value to NASA, seeing as how he defied all odds and survived in the most inhospitable location imaginable. This alone would make Watney an ideal candidate for the mission Dr. Mann embarks on in Interstellar. However, one would imagine that Watney would never put himself in the position to be stranded on an inhospitable planet after the events of The Martian. But, if Watney did bring about the blight, he may see this mission as a chance at redemption and a chance to reclaim his real name. Even if Watney/Mann does not feel this way, this theory suggests that NASA is fully aware of Watney’s involvement in bringing about the blight and would thus have sufficient leverage over Watney/Mann and could coerce him into taking on the mission.

When Dr. Mann finds himself on a planet that is inhospitable to human life once again he suffers a psychological breakdown and loses his characteristic optimism. His strong survival instinct kicks in and he chooses to prioritize saving his own life over the survival of human kind.

If Interstellar is seen as a sequel to The Martian this would explain why the introduction of Dr. Mann in Interstellar feels like a big reveal. This scene would mark the beginning of the conclusion of the Mark Watney/Dr. Mann character arc. This makes Dr. Mann’s character a much more believable and sympathetic villain while making Mark Watney a much more realistic and flawed character than we get to see in The Martian.

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Thu September 03, 2020 2:30 pm
by tree_
good essay :thumbsup:

highly recommend

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Thu September 03, 2020 3:53 pm
by The Argonaut
tree_ wrote:good essay :thumbsup:

highly recommend
It only took me three minutes to write

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Thu September 03, 2020 7:06 pm
by dimejinky99
The Argonaut wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:‪It confuses me no end that Matt Damon is in both the Martian and Interstellar. Two films with almost identical premise. Is there a connection I’m missing or is it just a weird coincidence? ‬
Drawing connections between two astronaut characters portrayed by Matt Damon may seem like a lazy fan theory, considering that vastly different tone of the two movies in addition to the stark contrast between the two astronaut characters – one clearly being portrayed as a hero, the other a villain. However, several pieces of evidence suggest that Mark Watney of The Martian may have had good reason to change his name and later to embark on the all-or-nothing mission as Dr. Mann in Interstellar. This evidence also explains the cause of Watney/Mann’s divergent characterizations and suggests a much more tragic character arc for Watney/Mann than either film implies in isolation.

From the first mention of Dr. Mann in Interstellar there is an air of mystery around him as well as a considerable amount of reverence paid to him whenever his name is mentioned. Dr. Mann’s reputation clearly precedes him, characters discuss what an important man he is but they never reveal how he attained such a reputation. For reasons that are not clear to the audience when Dr. Mann is first mentioned, the actor portraying Dr. Mann is not immediately shown. The camera does linger on a row of photos of the twelve astronauts that have gone through the wormhole but the photos are not shown in clear detail. This shrouds Dr. Mann’s character in mystery from the beginning. Dr. Mann's onscreen introuction later in the film is played like a big reveal but it is not clear as to why the scene should have such a tone, other than the fact that Matt Damon is an A-List celebrity who had little to no involvement in promoting the film thus surprising the audience by portraying the character. If however, Interstellar were the final installment in a film series chronicling the life of Mark Watney/Dr. Mann, this scene would certainly deserve the weight and tone given to this scene which treats Dr. Mann’s introduction as a big reveal.

Towards the end of The Martian we see Mark Watney at the NASA campus. Watney acknowledges a small sprout between his feet which looks remarkably similar to the potato sprouts seen earlier on Mars. This scene seems to suggest that Watney has brought back and continued to cultivate his martian potatoes.

In Interstellar a mysterious blight has begun infecting crops and threatening life on Earth. This in turn has forced NASA underground because space exploration is seen as a frivolous expense; the thinking being that problems on Earth must be addressed before venturing off planet.

If Mark Watney’s martian potatoes caused the blight that has threatened life on Earth NASA and Watney would have all the more reason to go underground. This could also explain why the government has begun a program of rewriting American history – to further distance themselves from their involvement in bringing about the blight. The Martian establishes Mark Watney’s value to NASA, seeing as how he defied all odds and survived in the most inhospitable location imaginable. This alone would make Watney an ideal candidate for the mission Dr. Mann embarks on in Interstellar. However, one would imagine that Watney would never put himself in the position to be stranded on an inhospitable planet after the events of The Martian. But, if Watney did bring about the blight, he may see this mission as a chance at redemption and a chance to reclaim his real name. Even if Watney/Mann does not feel this way, this theory suggests that NASA is fully aware of Watney’s involvement in bringing about the blight and would thus have sufficient leverage over Watney/Mann and could coerce him into taking on the mission.

When Dr. Mann finds himself on a planet that is inhospitable to human life once again he suffers a psychological breakdown and loses his characteristic optimism. His strong survival instinct kicks in and he chooses to prioritize saving his own life over the survival of human kind.

If Interstellar is seen as a sequel to The Martian this would explain why the introduction of Dr. Mann in Interstellar feels like a big reveal. This scene would mark the beginning of the conclusion of the Mark Watney/Dr. Mann character arc. This makes Dr. Mann’s character a much more believable and sympathetic villain while making Mark Watney a much more realistic and flawed character than we get to see in The Martian.

Wow.
Thanks for that.
I just asked.
Fuck you too.
Still my favourite RM username ever though.
But hey. Get over yourself.
Kind regards.
David.

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Thu September 03, 2020 8:09 pm
by The Argonaut
It is a really weird coincidence, dime

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Fri September 04, 2020 9:35 am
by dimejinky99
A weird choice for an actor to make though. They came out round about the same time.

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Fri September 04, 2020 1:04 pm
by EJ
That was great. Well done. :thumbsup:

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Sat September 05, 2020 4:35 am
by VinylGuy
Im Thinking Of Ending Things.

Jesus, Kaufman fucking ego ruins a perfect source material. The book is awesome and this movie is garbage.

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Sat September 05, 2020 4:40 am
by The Argonaut
VinylGuy wrote:Im Thinking Of Ending Things.

Jesus, Kaufman fucking ego ruins a perfect source material. The book is awesome and this movie is garbage.
I haven't read the book (didn't realize there was a book, even). I was planning on watching this one earlier but there was some drama (ugh) so I'll get to it tomorrow.

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Sat September 05, 2020 5:02 am
by VinylGuy
Maybe if you dont know the book and whats about; the movie might be different ? Not sure. For me its a Pity because the book is great and this thing is kaufman jerking off for more than two hours.

Fuck you Charlie .

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Sat September 05, 2020 5:34 am
by tree_
I feel vaguely responsible for this reaction

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Sat September 05, 2020 8:35 pm
by VinylGuy
tree_ wrote:I feel vaguely responsible for this reaction
Only if you suggested him to fuck up the movie.

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Sat September 05, 2020 8:48 pm
by Rangi Guy
Watched Mulan last night. Pretty good

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Sun September 06, 2020 12:17 am
by E.H. Ruddock
So HBO max isn't available on fire tv, I want to watch raised by wolves

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Sun September 06, 2020 1:39 am
by lennytheweedwhacker
E.H. Ruddock wrote:So HBO max isn't available on fire tv, I want to watch raised by wolves
great movie

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Sun September 06, 2020 1:49 am
by Birds in Hell
Peter Strickland's In Fabric made it to the AU iTunes store this week, so I finally got to see it, after enjoying the soundtrack for months and being turned away from one of the very few local theatrical showings at the height of COVID-19.

It was great!

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Sun September 06, 2020 2:41 am
by VinylGuy
E.H. Ruddock wrote:So HBO max isn't available on fire tv, I want to watch raised by wolves
wtf ruddo