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Re: Mind Your Manners

Posted: Sat July 13, 2013 10:26 am
by harmless
Sgt. Crackpot wrote:
harmless wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:This song is beginning to remind me of arctic monkeys
Haha, I can hear that. And it would be awesome if Ed ripped out of this one into a rendition of "I bet that you'd look good on the dance floor."
It'll probably just sound creepy. Like his Dream a Little Dream cover.
:shock:

I love how creepy that sounds :haha:

Re: Mind Your Manners

Posted: Sat July 13, 2013 11:08 am
by McParadigm
Geek post.

All Access always show reports spanning the previous seven days. Even though its only been spinning for two of the days in question, here's where Manners sits:

32 on Alternative.
37 on Active rock.
17 on much smaller Mainstream Rock.

640 total plays at registered stations. Total estimated audience is 4 million.

Re: Mind Your Manners

Posted: Sat July 13, 2013 11:24 am
by Sgt. Crackpot
McParadigm wrote:Geek post.

All Access always show reports spanning the previous seven days. Even though its only been spinning for two of the days in question, here's where Manners sits:

32 on Alternative.
37 on Active rock.
17 on much smaller Mainstream Rock.

640 total plays at registered stations. Total estimated audience is 4 million.
Is there any data on previous releases to get a comparison?

Re: Mind Your Manners

Posted: Sat July 13, 2013 11:24 am
by stupidmop
Eds always been a dork, watch any footage from like 91 before he got all depressed and/or terrified of his own fans, goofball.

I can't begin to comprehend the fixer video though, they should have gone balls to the wall acid trip happy, that would have made the song more tolerable. They possibly didn't care enough to come up with a concept.

An animated video for MYM could be aswesome, in the style of the cover.

I wish the song was a little more ragged. Like the chords before the bridge comes in should've been all discordant and shit and and the stops should've been less neat with the guitars stumbling a little.

I definitely get the Brain of J comparison, in fact MYM keeps turning into Brain of J when its stuck in my head.

Re: Mind Your Manners

Posted: Sat July 13, 2013 11:28 am
by Sgt. Crackpot
stupidmop wrote:An animated video for MYM could be aswesome, in the style of the cover.
Yes! Something like the Do the Evolution video, definitely their best and most cohesive video.

Re: Mind Your Manners

Posted: Sat July 13, 2013 11:30 am
by harmless
stupidmop wrote:Eds always been a dork, watch any footage from like 91 before he got all depressed and/or terrified of his own fans, goofball.

I can't begin to comprehend the fixer video though, they should have gone balls to the wall acid trip happy, that would have made the song more tolerable. They possibly didn't care enough to come up with a concept.

An animated video for MYM could be aswesome, in the style of the cover.

I wish the song was a little more ragged. Like the chords before the bridge comes in should've been all discordant and shit and and the stops should've been less neat with the guitars stumbling a little.

I definitely get the Brain of J comparison, in fact MYM keeps turning into Brain of J when its stuck in my head.
My wife asked me if I was listening to Brain of J because she could hear MYM from my headphones (I was playing it loud).

Re: Mind Your Manners

Posted: Sat July 13, 2013 11:37 am
by McParadigm
Sgt. Crackpot wrote:
McParadigm wrote:Geek post.

All Access always show reports spanning the previous seven days. Even though its only been spinning for two of the days in question, here's where Manners sits:

32 on Alternative.
37 on Active rock.
17 on much smaller Mainstream Rock.

640 total plays at registered stations. Total estimated audience is 4 million.
Is there any data on previous releases to get a comparison?
You know, I find this stuff interesting, and I leave it on a word doc on my flash drive, but its always a remarkably frustrating thing to find.

Fixer and Just Breathe were slower starters, because Pearl Jam still hadnt really rejoined the rock radio movers and shakers yet. But they both went on to top 50,000 spins during their charting tenure (JB maybe as high as 65,000)(Given to Fly managed around 45,000). WWS was somewhere south of 35,000...possibly below 30,000. Neither I Am Mine nor Nothing as it Seems passed the 15,000 spin mark.

Of course none of this addresses audience size. Just Breathe had by far the biggest audience. Then Given, then Fixer, then WWS.

Re: Mind Your Manners

Posted: Sat July 13, 2013 12:55 pm
by Burt Stanfield
Thejambi wrote:
Burt Stanfield wrote:I see it as a middle of the road song. It gets better as the song progesses, but the first fifteen seconds or so is pretty boring. I like the layers of the song once we finally arrive at them, but something feels lacking. I didn't care for Backspacer and Avocado was marginally better so I'm hoping the record will be more like Avocado since it is evident we aren't ever going to get another No Code
Cause No Code didn't have habit or lukin . Odds are slim but I won't give up till I get the album. MYM is 4/5 for me.
But, I liked Habit and Lukin in the context of the album. Generally a lead single for a PJ album tries to represent what the whole album will be like and I would prefer not to have a whole album of fast seemingly unpolished songs. Hopefully they throw a few Who You Ares, Off He Goes, and Present Tenses in there. We shall see

Re: Mind Your Manners

Posted: Sat July 13, 2013 12:59 pm
by Dr. Van Nostrand
spike wrote:for instance, i know this skit was meant to be uber corny, but he was still awkward.

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I loved that skit

Re: Mind Your Manners

Posted: Sat July 13, 2013 12:59 pm
by WtOB?
Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:
spike wrote:for instance, i know this skit was meant to be uber corny, but he was still awkward.

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I loved that skit
I love that show.

Re: Mind Your Manners

Posted: Sat July 13, 2013 1:03 pm
by Kevin Davis
Sgt. Crackpot wrote:
harmless wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:This song is beginning to remind me of arctic monkeys
Haha, I can hear that. And it would be awesome if Ed ripped out of this one into a rendition of "I bet that you'd look good on the dance floor."
It'll probably just sound creepy. Like his Dream a Little Dream cover.
I think "Dream a Little Dream" is one of Eddie's best vocal performances in recent memory. That's exactly the sort of thing he should be doing more of.

Re: Mind Your Manners

Posted: Sat July 13, 2013 1:19 pm
by stip
McParadigm wrote:Geek post.

All Access always show reports spanning the previous seven days. Even though its only been spinning for two of the days in question, here's where Manners sits:

32 on Alternative.
37 on Active rock.
17 on much smaller Mainstream Rock.

640 total plays at registered stations. Total estimated audience is 4 million.

thanks :)

Re: Mind Your Manners

Posted: Sat July 13, 2013 1:21 pm
by stip
Kevin Davis wrote:
Sgt. Crackpot wrote:
harmless wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:This song is beginning to remind me of arctic monkeys
Haha, I can hear that. And it would be awesome if Ed ripped out of this one into a rendition of "I bet that you'd look good on the dance floor."
It'll probably just sound creepy. Like his Dream a Little Dream cover.
I think "Dream a Little Dream" is one of Eddie's best vocal performances in recent memory. That's exactly the sort of thing he should be doing more of.

I sing that song to Ellie ever night when I put her to bed, and I totally started that because of Uke songs. He sounds better, though.

I am a big fan of his performance there

Re: Mind Your Manners

Posted: Sat July 13, 2013 1:22 pm
by stip
it'll be interesting to hear MYM alongside that countryfied little 4 second clip we had from that video a few months ago. That's the real test of an album's cohesiveness, since that obviously sounded very different.

Re: Mind Your Manners

Posted: Sat July 13, 2013 1:41 pm
by harmless
Burt Stanfield wrote:
Thejambi wrote:
Burt Stanfield wrote:I see it as a middle of the road song. It gets better as the song progesses, but the first fifteen seconds or so is pretty boring. I like the layers of the song once we finally arrive at them, but something feels lacking. I didn't care for Backspacer and Avocado was marginally better so I'm hoping the record will be more like Avocado since it is evident we aren't ever going to get another No Code
Cause No Code didn't have habit or lukin . Odds are slim but I won't give up till I get the album. MYM is 4/5 for me.
But, I liked Habit and Lukin in the context of the album. Generally a lead single for a PJ album tries to represent what the whole album will be like and I would prefer not to have a whole album of fast seemingly unpolished songs. Hopefully they throw a few Who You Ares, Off He Goes, and Present Tenses in there. We shall see
I don't think PJ singles have ever done that, even if they tried. The only thing The Fixer had in common with the rest of the album was that it was vaguely poppy.

Re: Mind Your Manners

Posted: Sat July 13, 2013 2:07 pm
by Noaheb
rickson wrote:How could anyone compare this to Brain of J? C mon. This is an average "funny" song.

I hate this type of Pearl Jam. They just don´t get that this "i´ll make music like the music of my favorite bands" doesn´t work at all. Every time they try to hard, they fail. Pearl Jam has been with a lack of personality since Riot Act. That was the last real album. Maybe it wasn´t that good but it did have character and it was unique. The last two, and seems like this one is not going any further, were like a compilation of sound that the guys think that "is cool". And that´s it. There is no urgency or need to create. And that is crap.
Probably I´m just to old school. But this was my favorite band because there was something about them that did matter. Not anymore.
I like the song for what it is and feel the album will be much more than this but yeah Riot Act was their last "real" album with a unique personality and emotion...kinda sucks

Re: Mind Your Manners

Posted: Sat July 13, 2013 2:08 pm
by WaitingForBluey
harmless wrote:
spike wrote:
WtOB? wrote:
spike wrote:and how bad was he in singles?

why am i so into discussing this? maybe i'm just trying to figure out why eddie went from super cool to dork in my mind.
It's a fascinating transition.
i mean, the obvious and real answer is he got old, but that's too convenient. i went to delve deeper and really cook up some conspiracies.
I don't buy the "He got old" thing. I just think that he really suddenly wanted to do something different and found the old stuff embarrassing. Some of his fans remained wedded to the old stuff and that's how life goes. Basically, over all, I personally think that their latter work has involved a lot of experimentation into just how to do this kind of music as grown adults, fathers and husbands. And the experimentation is not over. But I would hope that in the next album or two, they will finally have it figured out and we'll have a new kind of Pearl Jam to follow us into old age. I'm still fairly confident that Ed has still (barely) escaped becoming Bono, and for that I'm grateful.
Well said :thumbsup:

Re: Mind Your Manners

Posted: Sat July 13, 2013 2:15 pm
by Noaheb
harmless wrote: So you know, what I've realised is that my "Meh" feeling in hearing new PJ is not a new thing. It's followed me right through their career.
if I like a song right away I get worried...

Re: Mind Your Manners

Posted: Sat July 13, 2013 2:16 pm
by harmless
stip wrote:it'll be interesting to hear MYM alongside that countryfied little 4 second clip we had from that video a few months ago. That's the real test of an album's cohesiveness, since that obviously sounded very different.
I'm really excited about the variety evident in the clips we have so far. Moody dark ambience, punk / heavy metal, and country (if that video *was* actually PJ, do we know that it was?).

Re: Mind Your Manners

Posted: Sat July 13, 2013 2:18 pm
by epilogue
I'm going to try and take this thing one song at a time and keep any specific expectations out of it. The wait will be hard enough without me fucking it up and making it harder.

So far, MYM is good enough that it proves to me this guys still have tricks up their sleeve. They can still do this thing and affect me. My expectations go no further than: I expect a good album.

Maybe after another single or two... but right now, I'm just trying to enjoy MYM and not think too hard about the rest of it.