Red Mosquito

I mean, they were only chirping at him from the dugout. Escobar is the one that pulled the "hold me back, bro."

philpritchard wrote:

Harry Lime wrote:I see that the defending champs were acting like a bunch of cry babies.

You can't really blame them. Everyone's been picking on them lately, and they were just standing up for themselves.

They don't like it? They want to stand up for themselves? Then play better baseball.

numbers wrote:I mean, they were only chirping at him from the dugout. Escobar is the one that pulled the "hold me back, bro."

Boston: "While you're on second base, we're not going to hold you on and we're going to set up our defense in a way that makes it obvious we're not even pretending that we're trying to get you out."
Escobar: *steals third*
Boston: "YOU SON OF A BITCH!"

Even chirping at him from the dugout was stupid, given the circumstances. It's like throwing fastballs down the middle of the plate and then getting pissed off when someone hits a homerun. It was a five run game with two innings to play. It wasn't even a "don't run up the score" situation.

philpritchard wrote:

numbers wrote:I mean, they were only chirping at him from the dugout. Escobar is the one that pulled the "hold me back, bro."

Boston: "While you're on second base, we're not going to hold you on and we're going to set up our defense in a way that makes it obvious we're not even pretending that we're trying to get you out."
Escobar: *steals third*
Boston: "YOU SON OF A BITCH!"

Even chirping at him from the dugout was stupid, given the circumstances. It's like throwing fastballs down the middle of the plate and then getting pissed off when someone hits a homerun. It was a five run game with two innings to play. It wasn't even a "don't run up the score" situation.

obviously it was stupid, but the Red Sox have lost 10 in a row, just blew the game, and have a history with the DRays. It's not surprising.

numbers wrote:

philpritchard wrote:

numbers wrote:I mean, they were only chirping at him from the dugout. Escobar is the one that pulled the "hold me back, bro."

Boston: "While you're on second base, we're not going to hold you on and we're going to set up our defense in a way that makes it obvious we're not even pretending that we're trying to get you out."
Escobar: *steals third*
Boston: "YOU SON OF A BITCH!"

Even chirping at him from the dugout was stupid, given the circumstances. It's like throwing fastballs down the middle of the plate and then getting pissed off when someone hits a homerun. It was a five run game with two innings to play. It wasn't even a "don't run up the score" situation.

obviously it was stupid, but the Red Sox have lost 10 in a row, just blew the game, and have a history with the DRays. It's not surprising.

I'm curious... are people in Boston viewing this as some kind of turning point where a show of emotion turns the season around?

philpritchard wrote:

numbers wrote:

philpritchard wrote:

numbers wrote:I mean, they were only chirping at him from the dugout. Escobar is the one that pulled the "hold me back, bro."

Boston: "While you're on second base, we're not going to hold you on and we're going to set up our defense in a way that makes it obvious we're not even pretending that we're trying to get you out."
Escobar: *steals third*
Boston: "YOU SON OF A BITCH!"

Even chirping at him from the dugout was stupid, given the circumstances. It's like throwing fastballs down the middle of the plate and then getting pissed off when someone hits a homerun. It was a five run game with two innings to play. It wasn't even a "don't run up the score" situation.

obviously it was stupid, but the Red Sox have lost 10 in a row, just blew the game, and have a history with the DRays. It's not surprising.

I'm curious... are people in Boston viewing this as some kind of turning point where a show of emotion turns the season around?

The local media is trying to sell that angle, but I dont view it that way.

Im not saying that the Red Sox were doing the right thing or anything, but you notice how Escobar got the f out of dodge when Gomes came at him? I thought he wanted to take on the entire team?

numbers wrote:

philpritchard wrote:

numbers wrote:

philpritchard wrote:

numbers wrote:I mean, they were only chirping at him from the dugout. Escobar is the one that pulled the "hold me back, bro."

Boston: "While you're on second base, we're not going to hold you on and we're going to set up our defense in a way that makes it obvious we're not even pretending that we're trying to get you out."
Escobar: *steals third*
Boston: "YOU SON OF A BITCH!"

Even chirping at him from the dugout was stupid, given the circumstances. It's like throwing fastballs down the middle of the plate and then getting pissed off when someone hits a homerun. It was a five run game with two innings to play. It wasn't even a "don't run up the score" situation.

obviously it was stupid, but the Red Sox have lost 10 in a row, just blew the game, and have a history with the DRays. It's not surprising.

I'm curious... are people in Boston viewing this as some kind of turning point where a show of emotion turns the season around?

The local media is trying to sell that angle, but I dont view it that way.

You have to understand, in Boston, the baseball writers are essentially team employees. It's not like the dynamic in most cities.

numbers wrote:

numbers wrote:

philpritchard wrote:

numbers wrote:

philpritchard wrote:

numbers wrote:I mean, they were only chirping at him from the dugout. Escobar is the one that pulled the "hold me back, bro."

Boston: "While you're on second base, we're not going to hold you on and we're going to set up our defense in a way that makes it obvious we're not even pretending that we're trying to get you out."
Escobar: *steals third*
Boston: "YOU SON OF A BITCH!"

Even chirping at him from the dugout was stupid, given the circumstances. It's like throwing fastballs down the middle of the plate and then getting pissed off when someone hits a homerun. It was a five run game with two innings to play. It wasn't even a "don't run up the score" situation.

obviously it was stupid, but the Red Sox have lost 10 in a row, just blew the game, and have a history with the DRays. It's not surprising.

I'm curious... are people in Boston viewing this as some kind of turning point where a show of emotion turns the season around?

The local media is trying to sell that angle, but I dont view it that way.

You have to understand, in Boston, the baseball writers are essentially team employees. It's not like the dynamic in most cities.

Yeah, the Boston media is pretty awful.

Yeah it's pretty bad, the writers are more concerned with maintaining their relationships with players for future book deals etc. than reporting objectively.

numbers wrote:Yeah it's pretty bad, the writers are more concerned with maintaining their relationships with players for future book deals etc. than reporting objectively.

Unless the player leaves Boston, of course.

philpritchard wrote:

numbers wrote:Yeah it's pretty bad, the writers are more concerned with maintaining their relationships with players for future book deals etc. than reporting objectively.

Unless the player leaves Boston, of course.

Yup.

For a long time in Chicago, most of the sports writers had the same boss as the Chicago Cubs. It was beyond ridiculous.

Lament wrote:For a long time in Chicago, most of the sports writers had the same boss as the Chicago Cubs. It was beyond ridiculous.

The Jays are owned by the biggest media/communications company in Canada, yet I find the Rogers analysts like to unfairly criticize the team. It's a bit weird.

Having said that, I'm mostly talking about Gregg Zaun, and he's probably the worst sports "analyst" I've ever seen.

Someone really needs to publish the unwritten rules so we know exactly how many runs up/down in what inning we can no longer run/steal so this kind of thing does not happen

For me, 7 at any point in the game is pretty much the time to shut down the running game.

I don't buy any of that bullshit. Play to score as much as you possibly can. If the other team is offended because you're putting up too many runs they should stop sucking at baseball.

When the games decided though? I'm not saying you shouldn't be able to run if it isn't a save situation, but if you're up 7-0 in the ninth inning it's in poor taste.

If you're still playing the game's not decided.

Hell of a pitching duel going on in LA right now.