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Re: TV: Better Call Saul
Posted: Wed July 13, 2022 11:13 am
by wease
Monkey_Driven wrote:We had to watch it again. You can see by the flash of the barrels that both shot several rounds.
Mecca wrote:wease wrote:Stickman wrote:wease wrote:- Spoiler: show
- I guess a ricochet got Lalo?
More like a spray n pray in the dark.
What?
- Spoiler: show
- Gus’s gun had no ammo.
That’s wrong. I think you might have misinterpreted Gus continually pulling the trigger after the gun is empty; he was in shock because of the adrenaline from the confrontation and he was just shot
Ah. Yeah, we totally missed that. Thanks, guys.
Re: TV: Better Call Saul
Posted: Wed July 13, 2022 11:25 am
by The Argonaut
Lalo's stated plan to Jimmy was to hold Kim hostage, forcing Jimmy to assassinate Gus. Jimmy convinced Lalo to have Kim go, instead. I suspect Jimmy was hoping Kim would tell the police or just start running, but she does actually go to Gus's house with a gun where she is quicky apprehended by Mike's guys.
Lalo, of course, knew something like this would happen. All he wanted was to cause a hubbub and scramble Mike's guys so he could sneak into the laundry and get video evidence of the lab.
But when Kim tells her side of the story to Gus, he sees the full picture. He knows Lalo wouldn't think this blonde lady could just walk up and kill him. He realizes Lalo was creating a distraction and now is probably at the laundry so he goes there himself. But Lalo still has the drop on him, so Lalo kills the bodyguards and takes Gus at gunpoint into the basement.
Gus distracts Lalo for enough time to kick lightning (?) at him, grabs a gun and starts shooting. Gus is not an experienced gunfighter, so he gets caught up in the adrenaline and keeps pulling the trigger even after the gun is empty and Lalo is shot.
Re: TV: Better Call Saul
Posted: Wed July 13, 2022 11:35 am
by Jorge
The Argonaut wrote: I suspect Jimmy was hoping Kim would tell the police or just start running, but she does actually go to Gus's house with a gun where she is quicky apprehended by Mike's guys.
I thought it was sweet that Jimmy would sacrifice himself for Kim (hoping she would run away, leaving him behind to die) while Kim sacrificed herself for Jimmy (refusing the chance to reach out to the police, actually intending to go through with the plan in order to save Jimmy).
Re: TV: Better Call Saul
Posted: Wed July 13, 2022 12:35 pm
by The Argonaut
It's sweet, but also pretty dumb of her. Lalo's first objection to the idea of Kim going is that she's "too clever". Turns out, she isn't!
Re: TV: Better Call Saul
Posted: Wed July 13, 2022 12:49 pm
by wease
So what will the last five episodes consist of? Jimmy further solidifying his identity/practice as Saul Goodman while somehow entrenching himself further with Gus/Mike. Gotta be a Gene episode. Gotta find out what happens with Kim. There can’t really be a lot of Fring/Salamanca story left at this point, right? For this show, I mean.
Re: TV: Better Call Saul
Posted: Wed July 13, 2022 12:49 pm
by Jorge
The Argonaut wrote:It's sweet, but also pretty dumb of her. Lalo's first objection to the idea of Kim going is that she's "too clever". Turns out, she isn't!
She loves him too much. It's nice
Re: TV: Better Call Saul
Posted: Wed July 13, 2022 6:48 pm
by spike
Re: TV: Better Call Saul
Posted: Wed July 13, 2022 7:19 pm
by wease
That’s fucking awesome.
Re: TV: Better Call Saul
Posted: Fri July 15, 2022 2:55 pm
by wease
Hey Jorge. On another board I frequent, a dude from Uruguay made the comment that while both Tony Dalton’s and Michael Mando’s use of Spanish is so good and convincing he couldn’t tell neither of them actually speak the language, Giancarlo Esposito’s use of it was so bad it was incomprehensible to him. He couldn’t understand a word of it. Have you had a similar experience as un hispanohablante?
Re: TV: Better Call Saul
Posted: Fri July 15, 2022 3:02 pm
by Jorge
Esposito's Spanish is atrocious, yeah. That scene from the last episode where Gus unloaded on Lalo was supposed to feel similar to Nacho's speech from his final episode, this moment of catharsis, but it was fully undercut (for Spanish speakers) by Giancarlo's bizarre pronunciation. I don't know how Tony Dalton didn't burst out laughing.
It's made worse by the fact that Gus is supposed to be Chilean. Chile has an extremely distinctive accent that sounds nothing like Gus's mangled attempt at Spanish. Mark Margolis, the actor who plays Hector Salamanca, also has horrible Spanish (which is funny because he does a great job at affecting a Mexican accent when Hector speaks English, like in the great scene he had with Mike in the diner).
It was a problem with Breaking Bad casting that they largely improved upon with Better Call Saul. Michael Mando sounds like a second-generation immigrant -- mostly good, with a little bit of awkwardness. Tony Dalton is flawless, yeah, he sounds Mexican.
Re: TV: Better Call Saul
Posted: Fri July 15, 2022 3:07 pm
by wease
Thanks for the insight.
Tony Dalton’s the fucking MAN.
Re: TV: Better Call Saul
Posted: Fri July 15, 2022 3:09 pm
by Jorge
You're welcome. I have a large amount of posts whining about the bad Spanish in Breaking Bad so I don't really bring it up anymore, but it often takes me out of the show.
Re: TV: Better Call Saul
Posted: Fri July 15, 2022 3:18 pm
by wease
Ah. We only watched the last season of BB first run so i wasn’t paying any attention to that thread at all while we were watching it.
Re: TV: Better Call Saul
Posted: Fri July 15, 2022 4:37 pm
by The Argonaut
Michael Mando spent much of his youth and young adulthood in Quebec and his native language is French.
Re: TV: Better Call Saul
Posted: Fri July 15, 2022 8:28 pm
by VinylGuy
do we know if Saul sent Kim because he loves her or maybe...he doesnt quite love her right??
mm trag was right
Re: TV: Better Call Saul
Posted: Fri July 15, 2022 8:31 pm
by The Argonaut
To Jimmy, Lalo is the danger. No one is more dangerous than Lalo. It is safer to be where Lalo isn't. He wanted to send her because that seemed safer to him. He loves her sincerely and completely
Re: TV: Better Call Saul
Posted: Fri July 15, 2022 8:32 pm
by VinylGuy
Argo, that post was a joke to trag
Re: TV: Better Call Saul
Posted: Fri July 15, 2022 8:39 pm
by The Argonaut
Sorry!
Re: TV: Better Call Saul
Posted: Fri July 15, 2022 8:45 pm
by VinylGuy
Argo do you think walter white is really dead?
Re: TV: Better Call Saul
Posted: Fri July 15, 2022 8:49 pm
by The Argonaut
They never checked his pulse!