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Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Wed September 09, 2020 2:51 am
by tragabigzanda
96583UP wrote:well, the george w bush super-propaganda regime wasn't exactly pleasant
On the other hand it was full of aw shucks charm

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Wed September 09, 2020 4:01 am
by simple schoolboy
B wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:Yes but the guy at the fucking top of the heap failed spectacularly
Yeah, we were all wrong on March 9th, but Trump was super wrong.
Yeah, so pick a quote from a date where all of our retarded overseers weren't in agreement.

Trump's real failure was that he didn't abolish the FDA and NIOSH on day 1 of the pandemic. I'm sure he didn't have the authority to do so, but he probably could have had laboratories, mask, and drug manufacturers with US Marshalls on site to arrest any dickless bureacrat that tried to intervene in their operations. Twist the arm of federal prosecutors and judges to demand some fantastical bond, and problem solved.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Wed September 09, 2020 5:15 pm
by doug rr
the new bob woodward tapes are fun...

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Wed September 09, 2020 5:44 pm
by Norah
lordy there are tapes

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Wed September 09, 2020 7:41 pm
by Strat
In his very own words. It is worse than the flu and very deadly.

Trump supporters: He has been lying to you about everything as well. He does not care about you. Do you see?

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Wed September 09, 2020 7:44 pm
by liebzz
Dude needs to resign.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Wed September 09, 2020 7:45 pm
by Strat
Wait, i did that wrong.

Fake news!

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Wed September 09, 2020 7:52 pm
by McParadigm
Strat wrote:In his very own words. It is worse than the flu and very deadly.

Trump supporters: He has been lying to you about everything as well. He does not care about you. Do you see?
Him fully comprehending the threat in early February doesn’t do much for the “China is 99% responsible for our current problems” argument.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Wed September 09, 2020 8:01 pm
by JuanHamm
liebzz wrote:Dude needs to kill himself

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Wed September 09, 2020 8:04 pm
by Simple Torture
we_got_him.gif

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Wed September 09, 2020 8:05 pm
by tragabigzanda
Fauci going to his defense on Fox News undoes all of this

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Wed September 09, 2020 8:32 pm
by Fuzzy_Dunlop
tragabigzanda wrote:Fauci going to his defense on Fox News undoes all of this
Oh you mean the same guy saying he doesn't recall all the shit he talked about Trump to Woodward? How long before we hear those tapes?

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Wed September 09, 2020 9:03 pm
by Rob
Simple Torture wrote:we_got_him.gif
This is the first thing I thought of when I heard about this Woodward stuff. :lol:

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Wed September 09, 2020 9:27 pm
by verb_to_trust
Unless there is audio of trump saying he knew how deadly the virus would be it doesn't matter. It probably doesn't matter either way.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Wed September 09, 2020 10:00 pm
by liebzz
verb_to_trust wrote:Unless there is audio of trump saying he knew how deadly the virus would be it doesn't matter. It probably doesn't matter either way.
There is. That’s the audio. He says in one segment that the virus was 5x more deadly than a bad flu and even talks about 30-70,000 people per year dying from flu complications.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Wed September 09, 2020 10:01 pm
by Biff Pocoroba
verb_to_trust wrote: it doesn't matter. It probably doesn't matter either way.
*sigh* agreeingly

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Wed September 09, 2020 10:16 pm
by Strat
verb_to_trust wrote:Unless there is audio of trump saying he knew how deadly the virus would be it doesn't matter. It probably doesn't matter either way.
:poke:

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Wed September 09, 2020 10:25 pm
by The Town
I really don't know what Trump could say that would change things.

I know the facts don't matter, but if I had a soapbox to stand on I'd have to scream these facts out of my system before moving on.

NPR: Despite Early Warnings, U.S. Took Months To Expand Swab Production For COVID-19 Test
But despite warnings about supply shortages by health experts and governors at least as early as February, the federal government took until late April to ramp up domestic production of swabs — a universal ingredient in the most common type of COVID-19 test.
and
NY Times: How Kushner's Volunteer Force Led a Fumbling Hunt for Medical Supplies

as two quick examples.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Wed September 09, 2020 10:27 pm
by doug rr
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Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Wed September 09, 2020 11:25 pm
by Stickman
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Senior Homeland Security Dept officials tried to downplay and manipulate real-time threat information about violent white supremacists in order to aid Pres. Trump politically, according to a formal whistleblower complaint.

The complaint was filed by Brian Murphy, who led the department's intelligence branch. It details times when the highest ranking officials within DHS—including acting DHS Sec. Chad Wolf, acting Director of U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services Ken Cuccinelli, and former DHS Sec. Kirstjen Nielsen—tried to change or alter intelligence information to seemingly align better with Pres. Trump’s rhetoric.

Murphy describes receiving an order from Cuccinelli to ‘modify [a] section on White Supremacy in a manner that made the threat appear less severe’ while also adding further information on ‘violent “left-wing” groups.’ Murphy declined to make the changes. The House Intelligence Committee has called on Murphy to testify under oath about the complaint, as Chair Adam Schiff said in a statement that this information puts ‘our nation and its security at grave risk.’