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Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Wed September 09, 2020 11:42 pm
by Biff Pocoroba
Meanwhile remember the lady who accused Trump of rape in the '90s? He said he could not have done that because she was too ugly. So she filed a defamation suit. Today it was announced the Department of Justice will intervene on Trump's behalf; that the US Government be named the plantiff and the venue moved from state to federal court. William Barr did say that if the case is proved than the damages will be paid by the US Government and not by Trump personally.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/09/09/justice ... -case.html

We all know Barr defends the Presidency like no recent AG but this is nuts (and infuriating).

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Thu September 10, 2020 12:07 am
by E.H. Ruddock
I'm convinced Trump could walk out on debate stage, shoot Biden point blank, and his followers would say he shouldn't be arrested

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Thu September 10, 2020 12:08 am
by doug rr
E.H. Ruddock wrote:I'm convinced Trump could walk out on debate stage, shoot Biden point blank, and his followers would say he shouldn't be arrested
that would be my mom

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Thu September 10, 2020 12:08 am
by Peeps
Biff Pocoroba wrote:Meanwhile remember the lady who accused Trump of rape in the '90s? He said he could not have done that because she was too ugly. So she filed a defamation suit. Today it was announced the Department of Justice will intervene on Trump's behalf; that the US Government be named the plantiff and the venue moved from state to federal court. William Barr did say that if the case is proved than the damages will be paid by the US Government and not by Trump personally.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/09/09/justice ... -case.html

We all know Barr defends the Presidency like no recent AG but this is nuts (and infuriating).
i read that the reason for this was some BS about how his defamatory statements came while he was president and a sitting president cannot be sued so technically she is suing the federal government



also i understand not wanting to cause a panic for the people of the US (same reason i give bush a pass for still reading the book to the kids) but to continue downplaying it like he did and is while he could have nipped it in the bud by simply stating to be safe i think you should wear a mask should be impeachable

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Thu September 10, 2020 12:14 am
by Simple Torture
E.H. Ruddock wrote:I'm convinced Trump could walk out on debate stage, shoot Biden point blank, and his followers would say he shouldn't be arrested
He has made such an argument himself.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Thu September 10, 2020 2:44 pm
by B
The Woodward tapes are bad, but it's not like we didn't know that he was lying about the severity all along. This is hardly news.

William Barr using tax dollars to defend Trump against accusations of rape. That's the real horseshit, and apparently no one gives a shit about that.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Thu September 10, 2020 3:18 pm
by McParadigm
Peeps wrote:also i understand not wanting to cause a panic for the people of the US (same reason i give bush a pass for still reading the book to the kids) but to continue downplaying it like he did and is while he could have nipped it in the bud by simply stating to be safe i think you should wear a mask should be impeachable
The idea that the LIBERATE MICHIGAN and ANTIFA IS COMING TO BURN DOWN YOUR SUBURB guy was worried about human panic is incredibly hard to swallow. That he might have worried about a stock panic, I buy.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Thu September 10, 2020 3:44 pm
by Peeps
McParadigm wrote:
Peeps wrote:also i understand not wanting to cause a panic for the people of the US (same reason i give bush a pass for still reading the book to the kids) but to continue downplaying it like he did and is while he could have nipped it in the bud by simply stating to be safe i think you should wear a mask should be impeachable
The idea that the LIBERATE MICHIGAN and ANTIFA IS COMING TO BURN DOWN YOUR SUBURB guy was worried about human panic is incredibly hard to swallow. That he might have worried about a stock panic, I buy.

I agree that it’s tough to swallow but I can’t argue much if that’s what people want to hang their hat on. where I’m at odds is he still should have at least endorsed the use of masks and cut the bullshit this is a hoax created by Dems

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Thu September 10, 2020 4:00 pm
by liebzz
In my humble opinion, we have to stop playing the expectations game, or passing it off like “well we knew this so why is this news”...

The President of the United States is recorded as saying he lied to the American people for months about the severity of an illness that he was briefed was the largest national security threat to the country. His lies and the lack of federal response that emanated from that resulted in the deaths of thousands of Americans and this was done intentionally. That is patently outrageous for any leader anywhere. That he knew the danger in January 28th for certain, bragged about it to Bob Woodward on February 7th, and continues to this day to minimize that risk is unconscionable. It is as impeachable a dereliction of duty and active participation in exposing Americans to the threat of illness and death as anything I have ever heard from any president.

Yes, there are a lot of things in the news today that should be front and center in people’s minds as examples of the sheer level of corruption going on in his administration, but in no event should any American lose sight or perspective that their president actively misled them and put their health and safety at great jeopardy to prevent him from losing points politically. He must resign or be shown the door. There is no other way to look at this. This isn’t politics, this is an intentional act of betraying Americans.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Thu September 10, 2020 4:04 pm
by digster
Such subtlety here. I really can't grasp what underlying message he's trying to convey.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Thu September 10, 2020 7:14 pm
by blueviper
liebzz wrote:In my humble opinion, we have to stop playing the expectations game, or passing it off like “well we knew this so why is this news”...

The President of the United States is recorded as saying he lied to the American people for months about the severity of an illness that he was briefed was the largest national security threat to the country. His lies and the lack of federal response that emanated from that resulted in the deaths of thousands of Americans and this was done intentionally. That is patently outrageous for any leader anywhere. That he knew the danger in January 28th for certain, bragged about it to Bob Woodward on February 7th, and continues to this day to minimize that risk is unconscionable. It is as impeachable a dereliction of duty and active participation in exposing Americans to the threat of illness and death as anything I have ever heard from any president.

Yes, there are a lot of things in the news today that should be front and center in people’s minds as examples of the sheer level of corruption going on in his administration, but in no event should any American lose sight or perspective that their president actively misled them and put their health and safety at great jeopardy to prevent him from losing points politically. He must resign or be shown the door. There is no other way to look at this. This isn’t politics, this is an intentional act of betraying Americans.

:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Thu September 10, 2020 9:54 pm
by Hatfield
blueviper wrote:
liebzz wrote:In my humble opinion, we have to stop playing the expectations game, or passing it off like “well we knew this so why is this news”...

The President of the United States is recorded as saying he lied to the American people for months about the severity of an illness that he was briefed was the largest national security threat to the country. His lies and the lack of federal response that emanated from that resulted in the deaths of thousands of Americans and this was done intentionally. That is patently outrageous for any leader anywhere. That he knew the danger in January 28th for certain, bragged about it to Bob Woodward on February 7th, and continues to this day to minimize that risk is unconscionable. It is as impeachable a dereliction of duty and active participation in exposing Americans to the threat of illness and death as anything I have ever heard from any president.

Yes, there are a lot of things in the news today that should be front and center in people’s minds as examples of the sheer level of corruption going on in his administration, but in no event should any American lose sight or perspective that their president actively misled them and put their health and safety at great jeopardy to prevent him from losing points politically. He must resign or be shown the door. There is no other way to look at this. This isn’t politics, this is an intentional act of betraying Americans.

:thumbsup: :thumbsup:
I finally broke down and had the conversation with my family. We CANNOT be okay with this, no matter how you feel about abortion, regulation or corporate taxes.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Sat September 12, 2020 1:50 am
by wease
digster wrote:Such subtlety here. I really can't grasp what underlying message he's trying to convey.
In terms his supporters will understand: The Blacks.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Sat September 12, 2020 5:37 pm
by simple schoolboy
https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-us-c ... ssion=true

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Sat September 12, 2020 6:08 pm
by The Argonaut
simple schoolboy wrote: https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-us-c ... ssion=true
I know that one is not true because Trump doesn't laugh

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Sat September 12, 2020 6:31 pm
by Bi_3
Bahrain recognizes Israel
Taliban and Afghanistan talking

Not bad things for Trump

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Sat September 12, 2020 6:34 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
The taliban and Afghanistan have been "talking" since 2001

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Sat September 12, 2020 6:39 pm
by Bi_3
E.H. Ruddock wrote:The taliban and Afghanistan have been "talking" since 2001

Yeah but....

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-53976968
The first-ever peace talks between the Afghan government and the Taliban are under way in the Gulf state of Qatar.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Sat September 12, 2020 8:11 pm
by Mickey
Not that this is the only metric that matters but I wouldn't hold my breath for the large pool of independent voters for whom Afghani peace is a big issue

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Sat September 12, 2020 8:20 pm
by tragabigzanda
team mickey. This isn't 2004.