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Re: Transgender Rights
Posted: Sun June 18, 2023 4:46 am
by simple schoolboy
simple schoolboy wrote:Self ID being the only criteria for the apparently spiritually based status of being trans is having interesting outcomes in the California prison system.
The crime that caused an individual to be incarcerated cannot be considered to prevent them from being transferred to a women's prison. So, say rapists or those that murdered their female partner can be transferred.
There are far fewer female prisons, and I don't know if someone in Pelican Bay could easily transfer, but there's clearly an incentive to transfer to a place without a SHU system and you can request the form to register your gender identity/ transfer whenever.
The women's prisons have less segregation by security level, so it's pretty much an automatic upgrade for anyone doing serious time.
I'm guessing they're gonna start giving female inmates long term birth control to try to keep this quieter*.
*Edit: there was a doctor doing hysterectomies without consent not that many years ago, so it's not like this is without precedent.
The state paid out a settlement and that was about it. The spirit of Eugenics in California is not entirely gone.
Re: Transgender Rights
Posted: Sun June 18, 2023 6:12 am
by Bammer
Also happening WA … Including a very cool story about a child rapist being transferred to a prison where female inmates’ young children are present.
Re: Transgender Rights
Posted: Sun June 18, 2023 6:49 pm
by Bi_3
--- wrote:Ms Harmless wrote:
there is no such thing as an "inappropriate" age to teach kids that they can explore their gender
and then, one day, for no reason at all...
Missed this in the noise. Absolutely savage take
Re: Transgender Rights
Posted: Sun June 18, 2023 9:41 pm
by simple schoolboy
Bammer wrote:Also happening WA … Including a very cool story about a child rapist being transferred to a prison where female inmates’ young children are present.
It's completely insane and I hope the courts put a stop to it. With all the issues in prisons with terrible conditions, food, and medical care, prioritizing gender affirmation over everything else is quite the choice.
Re: Transgender Rights
Posted: Mon June 19, 2023 2:51 pm
by Ms Harmless
spike wrote:Bammer wrote:I’m mildly fascinated by how this website revolves around the latest knock down, drag out fight.
First it was whoever the two people were fighting about tarot cards.
Then it became spike vs verb in the coronavirus thread.
Now that Covid is over we need something else shiny and new so here comes Harmless vs. Tree.
I wonder what will be the next great issue of our day.
not issue, next great asshole
just conflicts randomly springing up for no reason, all deeply strange and with no possible explanation; apparently nothing can be done
Re: Transgender Rights
Posted: Fri September 29, 2023 4:20 pm
by Bi_3
Looks like this is headed to the SCOTUS.
Re: Transgender Rights
Posted: Mon October 23, 2023 8:58 pm
by B
I was at a coffee shop today that had "XX" and "XY" on their bathroom doors. I couldn't tell if it was naïve kitsch or if it was a purposeful anti-trans, anti-intersex message.
Re: Transgender Rights
Posted: Mon October 23, 2023 9:02 pm
by tragabigzanda
FUCK ICE
Re: Transgender Rights
Posted: Mon October 23, 2023 9:18 pm
by Bi_3
tragabigzanda wrote:B wrote:I was at a coffee shop today that had "XX" and "XY" on their bathroom doors. I couldn't tell if it was naïve kitsch or if it was a purposeful anti-trans, anti-intersex message.
pretty sure you just supported a bigoted business owner
Nah, it just means urinal or no urinal.
Re: Transgender Rights
Posted: Tue October 24, 2023 1:14 am
by B
Incorrect.
Re: Transgender Rights
Posted: Tue October 24, 2023 2:59 am
by knee tunes
Bi_3 wrote:tragabigzanda wrote:B wrote:I was at a coffee shop today that had "XX" and "XY" on their bathroom doors. I couldn't tell if it was naïve kitsch or if it was a purposeful anti-trans, anti-intersex message.
pretty sure you just supported a bigoted business owner
Nah, it just means urinal or no urinal.
case of physical graffiti
Re: Transgender Rights
Posted: Tue October 24, 2023 4:44 am
by Bammer
B wrote:I was at a coffee shop today that had "XX" and "XY" on their bathroom doors. I couldn't tell if it was naïve kitsch or if it was a purposeful anti-trans, anti-intersex message.
XX is the womens room and XY is the mens room
Re: Transgender Rights
Posted: Tue October 24, 2023 9:40 am
by B
Where would an intersex XXY man go?
Re: Transgender Rights
Posted: Tue October 24, 2023 10:01 am
by bart
to the plus size bathroom
Re: Transgender Rights
Posted: Tue October 24, 2023 8:29 pm
by Bi_3
B wrote:Where would an intersex XXY man go?
The one with the urinal
Re: Transgender Rights
Posted: Tue October 24, 2023 8:49 pm
by B
Bi_3 wrote:B wrote:Where would an intersex XXY man go?
The one with the urinal
Not according to the sign.
Re: Transgender Rights
Posted: Tue October 24, 2023 9:08 pm
by Bi_3
B wrote:Bi_3 wrote:B wrote:Where would an intersex XXY man go?
The one with the urinal
Not according to the sign.
Why not? Where did he go when he was a child? The bushes?
Re: Transgender Rights
Posted: Tue October 24, 2023 10:22 pm
by Bammer
B wrote:Bi_3 wrote:B wrote:Where would an intersex XXY man go?
The one with the urinal
Not according to the sign.
You are so smart
Re: Transgender Rights
Posted: Tue October 24, 2023 11:20 pm
by B
Bi_3 wrote:B wrote:Bi_3 wrote:B wrote:Where would an intersex XXY man go?
The one with the urinal
Not according to the sign.
Why not? Where did he go when he was a child? The bushes?
Probably in a bathroom that didn't have a genomic requirement.
Re: Transgender Rights
Posted: Wed October 25, 2023 11:19 am
by Bi_3
B wrote:Bi_3 wrote:B wrote:Bi_3 wrote:B wrote:Where would an intersex XXY man go?
The one with the urinal
Not according to the sign.
Why not? Where did he go when he was a child? The bushes?
Probably in a bathroom that didn't have a genomic requirement.
Which really didnt exist in a measurable frequency anywhere before the 2010s and somehow folks still managed to pee. I read it as someone who didnt want to say "male" or "female" but still wanted to indicate which one has a urinal option, as in modern gender theory "male" and "female" are not tied to chromosomal sex. The overwhelming majority of XXY folks pee through their dicks and thus would generally favor a urinal. It's important to remember that most XXY folks dont even know they have that condition and that intersex conditions only occur in about 0.018% of the population. So not only is it unlikely an intersex person has ever even been in that store, even if they had they likely wouldn't have been aware of their obligation to feel offended by a bathroom sign that guided them to the easier pissing spot.