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Re: The Vinyl Thread: Still Listen On Wax, Don't Use The CD

Posted: Sat August 29, 2015 9:29 pm
by super nintendo chalmers
Strat wrote:

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Nothing funny about this stupidty. Shit like this is the reason pressing plants are backed up and hard working decent bands have to wait upwards to eight months to get their albums pressed.

Fuck this and anyone who would even entertain the idea of buying this dreck.

Re: The Vinyl Thread: Still Listen On Wax, Don't Use The CD

Posted: Sat August 29, 2015 9:34 pm
by @SkitchP
super nintendo chalmers wrote:
Strat wrote:

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Nothing funny about this stupidty. Shit like this is the reason pressing plants are backed up and hard working decent bands have to wait upwards to eight months to get their albums pressed.

Fuck this and anyone who would even entertain the idea of buying this dreck.

This comes off as all sorts of pretentious.

Re: The Vinyl Thread: Still Listen On Wax, Don't Use The CD

Posted: Sat August 29, 2015 10:17 pm
by BigRedLedbetter
I kinda prefer cassette tapes.

Re: The Vinyl Thread: Still Listen On Wax, Don't Use The CD

Posted: Sat August 29, 2015 10:44 pm
by @SkitchP
BigRedLedbetter wrote:I kinda prefer cassette tapes.

This comes off as all sorts of preposterous.

Re: The Vinyl Thread: Still Listen On Wax, Don't Use The CD

Posted: Sat August 29, 2015 11:01 pm
by BigRedLedbetter
@SkitchP wrote:
BigRedLedbetter wrote:I kinda prefer cassette tapes.

This comes off as all sorts of preposterous.
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Re: The Vinyl Thread: Still Listen On Wax, Don't Use The CD

Posted: Sat August 29, 2015 11:09 pm
by super nintendo chalmers
@SkitchP wrote:
super nintendo chalmers wrote:
Strat wrote:

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Nothing funny about this stupidty. Shit like this is the reason pressing plants are backed up and hard working decent bands have to wait upwards to eight months to get their albums pressed.

Fuck this and anyone who would even entertain the idea of buying this dreck.

This comes off as all sorts of pretentious.
And buying a $40 repress of Rumors, isnt?

It's killing independent artists.

This is what it's come to. Plants expanding, ancient gear being repaired at high cost, 24/7 machinists on hand at multiple new plants getting off the ground.....all to repress the same Allan Sherman, Mantovani and Taylor Dayne records that languish in picked over Goodwills.

Seriously though, if you're in a touring band that depends on having LPs and singles pressed on hand as a means of income and you can't get your product in time because of some bullshit like this? It infuriates me. We all get to wait while the major labels repress $1 bin stuff.

I can't wait for this fucking bubble to burst. I'd try to think of a way to blame Jack White, but I'm too hungover.

Re: The Vinyl Thread: Still Listen On Wax, Don't Use The CD

Posted: Sat August 29, 2015 11:18 pm
by @SkitchP
In other words, your little hobby has gotten more expensive and overall more difficult because it's more popular. If that's what people want, why shouldn't they make it?

Re: The Vinyl Thread: Still Listen On Wax, Don't Use The CD

Posted: Sat August 29, 2015 11:23 pm
by super nintendo chalmers
@SkitchP wrote:In other words, your little hobby has gotten more expensive and overall more difficult because it's more popular. If that's what people want, why shouldn't they make it?
That's what I find baffling, the people who supposedly want these records? They're easy to find. You can get the Top Gun sdk on discogs for 5 bucks! Fans and artists pay the price while hobbists are fucking up the game.
Really though, you'd be okay with that, if your band needed their records pressed or even repressed in a reasonable amount of time, but couldn't because of stupid projects like this? I find that hard to believe.

How can you defend this shit?

Pressing a Jack White record in a day is a wonderful photo op and I wouldn't begrudge them the business. However, when someone far less famous is looking at the one year anniversary of asking for their record to be repressed, that's kinda rubbing it in.

Re: The Vinyl Thread: Still Listen On Wax, Don't Use The CD

Posted: Sat August 29, 2015 11:29 pm
by @SkitchP
super nintendo chalmers wrote:
@SkitchP wrote:In other words, your little hobby has gotten more expensive and overall more difficult because it's more popular. If that's what people want, why shouldn't they make it?
That's what I find baffling, the people who supposedly want these records? They're easy to find. You can get the Top Gun sdk on discogs for 5 bucks! Fans and artists pay the price while hobbists are fucking up the game.
Really though, you'd be okay with that, if your band needed their records pressed or even repressed in a reasonable amount of time, but couldn't because of stupid projects like this? I find that hard to believe.

How can you defend this shit?

Because most people dont want to spend the time looking for them. They don't know how, or want to, look for things on discogs.

They don't want to go into the used record store and feel like they have to defend their purchase or pretend it's ironic. They have the money to buy something they want NEW. If there was enough demand for these smaller artists, or vinyl in general, then they'd build more pressing facilities.

Sure, IF i was an artist it would frustrate me, but in reality, a small artists album being available on vinyl is aiming at such a small portion of the market, I can't be mad.

Re: The Vinyl Thread: Still Listen On Wax, Don't Use The CD

Posted: Sat August 29, 2015 11:31 pm
by @SkitchP
and ultimately, it may suck in the short term for serious collectors like yourself, but if it proves to be sustainable, then long term things WILL be more readily available across the board.

Re: The Vinyl Thread: Still Listen On Wax, Don't Use The CD

Posted: Sat August 29, 2015 11:34 pm
by BigRedLedbetter
Guys, I don't really listen to cassettes.

Re: The Vinyl Thread: Still Listen On Wax, Don't Use The CD

Posted: Sat August 29, 2015 11:37 pm
by super nintendo chalmers
@SkitchP wrote:
super nintendo chalmers wrote:
@SkitchP wrote:In other words, your little hobby has gotten more expensive and overall more difficult because it's more popular. If that's what people want, why shouldn't they make it?
That's what I find baffling, the people who supposedly want these records? They're easy to find. You can get the Top Gun sdk on discogs for 5 bucks! Fans and artists pay the price while hobbists are fucking up the game.
Really though, you'd be okay with that, if your band needed their records pressed or even repressed in a reasonable amount of time, but couldn't because of stupid projects like this? I find that hard to believe.

How can you defend this shit?


Because most people dont want to spend the time looking for them. They don't know how, or want to, look for things on discogs.

They don't want to go into the used record store and feel like they have to defend their purchase or pretend it's ironic. They have the money to buy something they want NEW. If there was enough demand for these smaller artists, or vinyl in general, then they'd build more pressing facilities.

Sure, IF i was an artist it would frustrate me, but in reality, a small artists album being available on vinyl is aiming at such a small portion of the market, I can't be mad.

I'm not a collector. I'm a fan. I don't buy stuff to flip. I'll only really sell if I don't really want the record anymore and it sucks. I buy doubles to trade with friends. But that's not the point.

It's pretty fucked if you can defend the actions of corporate fuckwads and not sympathize with small artists, but side with the tasteless mongoloids.

Enjoy the overpriced, mint Kenny Loggins record.

Re: The Vinyl Thread: Still Listen On Wax, Don't Use The CD

Posted: Sat August 29, 2015 11:43 pm
by @SkitchP
super nintendo chalmers wrote:
@SkitchP wrote:
super nintendo chalmers wrote:
@SkitchP wrote:In other words, your little hobby has gotten more expensive and overall more difficult because it's more popular. If that's what people want, why shouldn't they make it?
That's what I find baffling, the people who supposedly want these records? They're easy to find. You can get the Top Gun sdk on discogs for 5 bucks! Fans and artists pay the price while hobbists are fucking up the game.
Really though, you'd be okay with that, if your band needed their records pressed or even repressed in a reasonable amount of time, but couldn't because of stupid projects like this? I find that hard to believe.

How can you defend this shit?


Because most people dont want to spend the time looking for them. They don't know how, or want to, look for things on discogs.

They don't want to go into the used record store and feel like they have to defend their purchase or pretend it's ironic. They have the money to buy something they want NEW. If there was enough demand for these smaller artists, or vinyl in general, then they'd build more pressing facilities.

Sure, IF i was an artist it would frustrate me, but in reality, a small artists album being available on vinyl is aiming at such a small portion of the market, I can't be mad.

I'm not a collector. I'm a fan. I don't buy stuff to flip. I'll only really sell if I don't really want the record anymore and it sucks. I buy doubles to trade with friends. But that's not the point.

It's pretty fucked if you can defend the actions of corporate fuckwads and not sympathize with small artists, but side with tasteless mongoloids who ruin everything.


Enjoy your overpriced, mint Kenny Loggins record.

Yep. This is exactly the elitist attitude that makes people who think "hey, records are kinda neat" want to avoid used record stores. Any differing opinion or questionable purchase may result in mocking, judgmental comments and just overall douchbaggery.

Hey Hipster. YOUR TASTE IS NOT ANY BETTER THAN ANYONE ELSES. You're just more of a jerk about expressing it.

And just because, when I was buying records somewhat regularly, I took great pride in the fact that EVERYTHING i bought was from an independent record store. I had to find it in order to own it. This includes Binaural and Live on Two Legs. And my Zep BBC sessions. Only exceptions I ever made were getting Avocado and Live on Ten Legs from the 10 club, and Temptations Christmas Card off ebay because I couldn't find it for two years.

Re: The Vinyl Thread: Still Listen On Wax, Don't Use The CD

Posted: Sat August 29, 2015 11:58 pm
by super nintendo chalmers
@SkitchP wrote:Hey Hipster
Oh Jesus, dude. Really?

Just imagine a nice bar or show space that drew a good crowd, going for the right reasons. But then all of a sudden the party is interrupted by all these jerks that came out of nowhere and ruin it for everyone.

That's what I see with these boring reissues. They're repressing record store fill to cash in, come on man, that's gross and you know it.


But hey I can't begrudge you if you want to spend $25 bucks or whatever on these things, more power to you.

You're not an Ayn Rand dude are ya?

Re: The Vinyl Thread: Still Listen On Wax, Don't Use The CD

Posted: Sun August 30, 2015 12:03 am
by @SkitchP
:roll:

Re: The Vinyl Thread: Still Listen On Wax, Don't Use The CD

Posted: Sun August 30, 2015 12:07 am
by BigRedLedbetter
Being a hipster sounds exhausting. No thanks!

Re: The Vinyl Thread: Still Listen On Wax, Don't Use The CD

Posted: Sun August 30, 2015 12:12 am
by LoathedVermin72
"for the right reasons"

Re: The Vinyl Thread: Still Listen On Wax, Don't Use The CD

Posted: Sun August 30, 2015 12:13 am
by BigRedLedbetter
LoathedVermin72 wrote:"for the right reasons"
I gave your Mom the right reasons.
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Re: The Vinyl Thread: Still Listen On Wax, Don't Use The CD

Posted: Sun August 30, 2015 12:40 am
by nyquillyn
Hey SNC, I've been meaning to say thanks for the Motherfucker recommend. :thumbsup:

You should check out PHX's Numb Bats.

Re: The Vinyl Thread: Still Listen On Wax, Don't Use The CD

Posted: Sun August 30, 2015 7:44 am
by super nintendo chalmers
turned2black wrote:Hey SNC, I've been meaning to say thanks for the Motherfucker recommend. :thumbsup:

You should check out PHX's Numb Bats.
Will do. So glad you liked them, that record fucking rules. I get to finally see them play next weekend in Louisville. Pretty stoked.


And as for the "right reasons", yeah boneheaded bad phrase, sorry. I meant somewhere where people come out actively support the art, respect the music and engage and enrich the community. Not some bozos who show up to be seen and act like dicks and ruin it for everyone.
I don't buy for one minute, people who are too scared to go into record stores and buy what they want cause they don't want to defend their purchase. The fuck is that all about? If you're afraid to justify you're purchase, you've got some issues.
These dollar bin reissues make as much sense to be as those vinyl subscription clubs. If you're too lazy to go out and look for what you want, and just want to "buy it now" you should probably just get into coin collecting or other worthless timesink.

I'm done with this.

Go crank MOTHERFUCKER and enjoy life.